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Hi, everyone. Can I have some advice from you where to start, please? A Canadian trying to relocate to the US. Looking for a permanent position. I think I need to contact some recruiting agency, right? Would appreciate any advice, thanks.
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Recruiting agency/definitely not needed. It all depends on what you're looking for. Academic,private practice, hybrid, etc. What location ? Employed or locums, etc. Best way to find a job is through any connections you may have. If you don't have any, here or reddit can help you. Gasworks.com is an option but a lot of those jobs can be suboptimal for a variety of reasons. Cold calling/emailing places works very well too.
 
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Post in: 'Canada anesthesia labor shortage'

jope said:
I have US trained colleagues here and they have done an extra fellowship year to match the 5 year Royal College Requirement.
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I spoke with some recruiters out in Prince Edward Island (for curiosity sake mostly), and they accept US board certification for credentials and licensure. I think working in some parts of Canada would be great. It’s the currency discount that isn’t as appealing.
 
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cchoukal said:
Here you go:

NICMAN

Post in: 'Canada anesthesia labor shortage'

jope said:
I have US trained colleagues here and they have done an extra fellowship year to match the 5 year Royal College Requirement.
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I spoke with some recruiters out in Prince Edward Island (for curiosity sake mostly), and they accept US board certification for credentials and licensure. I think working in some parts of Canada would be great. It’s the currency discount that isn’t as appealing.
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I know that in Ontario a Board Certified Anesthesiologist from the US is eligible for unrestricted license. My case is the opposite, I am trying to move to the US.
 
Just post what you are looking for here…. Including must haves and can’t stands… someone will know someone with a position that will suit.
 
POW16 said:
Recruiting agency/definitely not needed. It all depends on what you're looking for. Academic,private practice, hybrid, etc. What location ? Employed or locums, etc. Best way to find a job is through any connections you may have. If you don't have any, here or reddit can help you. Gasworks.com is an option but a lot of those jobs can be suboptimal for a variety of reasons. Cold calling/emailing places works very well too.
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Thank you, POW16. I am exploring the Gasworks now. Recruitment agency seemed to make most sense, I don’t know much the process.
GassYous said:
Where in the US?
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I was thinking Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia. Preferably urban areas.
 
nitroglycerine said:
Thank you, POW16. I am exploring the Gasworks now. Recruitment agency seemed to make most sense, I don’t know much the process.

I was thinking Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia. Preferably urban areas.
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In Nashville look into Vanderbilt. There are some guys in the Atlanta area on here - hopefully they will reach out. Good luck!
 
amyl said:
In Nashville look into Vanderbilt. There are some guys in the Atlanta area on here - hopefully they will reach out. Good luck!
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We were looking at Nashville, Louisville, and my wife likes Atlanta a lot. I am looking for a good income potential and I am quite flexible with the type of practice and working hours. I would be happy to talk to anyone who happens to be hiring.
 
nitroglycerine said:
We were looking at Nashville, Louisville, and my wife likes Atlanta a lot. I am looking for a good income potential and I am quite flexible with the type of practice and working hours. I would be happy to talk to anyone who happens to be hiring.
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Your best bet is to start academic or pseudo-academic (maybe a smaller hospital/better paying one affiliated with an academic institution rather than the main hospital). Use that for a couple years to get a lay of the land, then see what other options are out there.
 
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dukethin said:
Your best bet is to start academic or pseudo-academic (maybe a smaller hospital/better paying one affiliated with an academic institution rather than the main hospital). Use that for a couple years to get a lay of the land, then see what other options are out there
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cchoukal said:
I know, it was a joke. Not a very good one, apparently.
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No, that’s fine. I know there’s a Canadian forum here and people are asking questions about moving here.
 
dukethin said:
Your best bet is to start academic or pseudo-academic (maybe a smaller hospital/better paying one affiliated with an academic institution rather than the main hospital). Use that for a couple years to get a lay of the land, then see what other options are out there.
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Thanks, Dukethin. Will start researching in this direction. I have a couple of surgeon friends who made the move so perhaps they will help me make contacts. Will explore the gasworks as well. Are there any recruiting firms that everyone agrees should not be contacted?
 
GassYous said:
Where in the US?
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Frankly speaking, GassYous, I would go anywhere. But at the family meeting we decided on urban Kentucky, Georgia, Tennessee for now. If I don’t find anything, then will expand our search to rural areas and other states.
 
nitroglycerine said:
We were looking at Nashville, Louisville, and my wife likes Atlanta a lot. I am looking for a good income potential and I am quite flexible with the type of practice and working hours. I would be happy to talk to anyone who happens to be hiring.
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Vanderbilt is hiring. Building a new tower and expanding the number of ORs once the new tower is completed
 
First question: do you want to sit your own cases? Or do you want to supervise crnas/AAs?

2nd: are you amenable to teaching residents?

3rd: how much money are you hoping to make?

4th: what practice type (with or without OB? Trauma? Cardiac? Peds?)
 
abolt18 said:
First question: do you want to sit your own cases? Or do you want to supervise crnas/AAs?

2nd: are you amenable to teaching residents?

3rd: how much money are you hoping to make?

4th: what practice type (with or without OB? Trauma? Cardiac? Peds?)
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I always did my own cases but we have AAs also, no CRNAs. I am Board certified with ABPS, not ABA, and I need the H1B visa so I want to expand my options. Yes, I will work with CRNAs and AAs.
I would teach residents.
Hoping to make at least as much as in Canada. I could bill CAD600-700 fee for service , would be left with half after taxes. This would be full time with 5 calls per month, 4 weeks off, unpaid of course.
I am ok with OB and trauma. Would do cardiacs if required but I would need some mentorship and TEE certification. I am not fellowship trained. Healthy peds ok too, preferably no neonates.
 
nitroglycerine said:
I always did my own cases but we have AAs also, no CRNAs. I am Board certified with ABPS, not ABA, and I need the H1B visa so I want to expand my options. Yes, I will work with CRNAs and AAs.
I would teach residents.
Hoping to make at least as much as in Canada. I could bill CAD600-700 fee for service , would be left with half after taxes. This would be full time with 5 calls per month, 4 weeks off, unpaid of course.
I am ok with OB and trauma. Would do cardiacs if required but I would need some mentorship and TEE certification. I am not fellowship trained. Healthy peds ok too, preferably no neonates.
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I don't know much about visa sponsorship, but academics is often a fairly safe bet when it comes to that. There are many other non-academic jobs that will sponsor visas, but they're almost certainly going to be hospital-employed positions.

I have several former colleagues who have ended up at the University of Louisville and seem to be very happy with it! It's got some sort of a hybrid private/employed model. Plenty of knife and gun club/penetrating traumas there.

I believe they're making somewhere around $450K base pay. Not sure where they are capping out with calls factored in.

I think it's worth knowing in advance what kinds of issues you can expect with crnas. In my personal experience, it's very hit-or-miss. A few are great to work with, most are just fine to work with, and a few are terrible to work with (meaning, they defy your orders/requests to spite you, fail to call you for induction/emergence, fail to call you in intraop emergencies, fail to manage intraop problems, make completely unsafe and nonsensical decisions when you're out of the room, all while claiming equivalence). So when you're signing up to work with crnas, you have to come into it eyes wide open.
 
abolt18 said:
I don't know much about visa sponsorship, but academics is often a fairly safe bet when it comes to that. There are many other non-academic jobs that will sponsor visas, but they're almost certainly going to be hospital-employed positions.

I have several former colleagues who have ended up at the University of Louisville and seem to be very happy with it! It's got some sort of a hybrid private/employed model. Plenty of knife and gun club/penetrating traumas there.

I believe they're making somewhere around $450K base pay. Not sure where they are capping out with calls factored in.

I think it's worth knowing in advance what kinds of issues you can expect with crnas. In my personal experience, it's very hit-or-miss. A few are great to work with, most are just fine to work with, and a few are terrible to work with (meaning, they defy your orders/requests to spite you, fail to call you for induction/emergence, fail to call you in intraop emergencies, fail to manage intraop problems, make completely unsafe and nonsensical decisions when you're out of the room, all while claiming equivalence). So when you're signing up to work with crnas, you have to come into it eyes wide open.
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It would be a big change. Thank you, abolt, and everyone else who responded. I really appreciate your help. Let’s see what I can find.
 
dukethin said:
I’m not sure, but it kind of sounds like it
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So if I click a link to apply on Gasworks and upload my resume, would it connect me to a recruitment agency? Is it different from contacting a recruitment office via a particular hospital website?
 
Recruiters who work for the hospital in their HR dept are different than recruiters who are “headhunters” that get some % from the hospital for recruiting you. Gasworks has filters to search for “direct employment.”
 
nitroglycerine said:
So if I click a link to apply on Gasworks and upload my resume, would it connect me to a recruitment agency? Is it different from contacting a recruitment office via a particular hospital website?
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I would not do that. I think you're far better off reaching out to hospitals and departments directly.

For example, 2 seconds on Google found this. Shoot him an email asking about their needs.

UofL Anesthesiology

www.uoflanesthesia.com www.uoflanesthesia.com

Office of the Chair | Department of Anesthesiology

www.vumc.org www.vumc.org


Anesthesiology, Perioperative, Critical Care, and Pain Medicine | Leadership | University of Kentucky College of Medicine

medicine.uky.edu medicine.uky.edu


Literally google "<desired city> anesthesiology groups" and start emailing and/or calling groups. If you know there's a university there, try to email the chairman.
 
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abolt18 said:
I would not do that. I think you're far better off reaching out to hospitals and departments directly.

For example, 2 seconds on Google found this. Shoot him an email asking about their needs.

UofL Anesthesiology

www.uoflanesthesia.com www.uoflanesthesia.com

Office of the Chair | Department of Anesthesiology

www.vumc.org www.vumc.org


Anesthesiology, Perioperative, Critical Care, and Pain Medicine | Leadership | University of Kentucky College of Medicine

medicine.uky.edu medicine.uky.edu


Literally google "<desired city> anesthesiology groups" and start emailing and/or calling groups. If you know there's a university there, try to email the chairman.
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Thank you very much. I did contact HR at Uof L. But I already contacted a recruiter through the Gaswork about a position. I cannot call this hospital directly now, can I?
 
nitroglycerine said:
Thank you very much. I did contact HR at Uof L. But I already contacted a recruiter through the Gaswork about a position. I cannot call this hospital directly now, can I?
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You can call anyone you want. Did you sign some sort of contract with the recruiter?

Also, HR is going to be far less fruitful than actually reaching out to department Chairs and anesthesiologists in a group. You need to talk to them to figure out if it would be a good fit before you ever do anything with HR. HR likely isn't going to be able to answer any questions about the anesthesia department, its culture, its needs, etc.
 
abolt18 said:
You can call anyone you want. Did you sign some sort of contract with the recruiter?

Also, HR is going to be far less fruitful than actually reaching out to department Chairs and anesthesiologists in a group. You need to talk to them to figure out if it would be a good fit before you ever do anything with HR. HR likely isn't going to be able to answer any questions about the anesthesia department, its culture, its needs, etc.
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No, I didn’t sign anything but I was asked to send them my resume. Will follow your advice and will be calling anesthesia department chief directly. Thanks again for your help.
 
nitroglycerine said:
Hi, everyone. Can I have some advice from you where to start, please? A Canadian trying to relocate to the US. Looking for a permanent position. I think I need to contact some recruiting agency, right? Would appreciate any advice, thanks.
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Haven’t you heard? You Canuckistanis are our enemies now 😉
 
nimbus said:
Yeah but if you guys just fold now and let us peacefully annex you, you would become an American anesthesiologist without even moving. Problem solved.
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I suggested that to the Prime Minister. He didn’t listen to me.
 
nimbus said:
Yes. I haven’t seen a CRNA in almost 30 yrs of practice. Downside is that it’s sometimes hard to know if you’re going home at 1pm, 3pm, or 7pm.
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There are always some downsides as long as they are not deadly. I never thought of the West Coast.
 
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