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[willrocks]

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If you search for pharmacists jobs on indeed.com or other job sites, there are myriads of listings for virtually all major cities. Yet, all we hear about is saturation. I wonder what this discrepancy could be attributed to?

 

[type b pharmD]

If you search for pharmacists jobs on indeed.com or other job sites, there are myriads of listings for virtually all major cities. Yet, all we hear about is saturation. I wonder what this discrepancy could be attributed to?

Its all about location. The truth is people who cant get the job they want in the location they want will start raising a fuss. There are still jobs in major metro areas with 20k signing bonuses, you just have to look for them. Also fewer jobs are available to pharmacists with no experience. Also a lot of places in major metro areas are still offering floater hours, and some people are unwilling to work 20 hours a week.

 

[willrocks]

A search on indeed.com for pharmacist jobs returns over 500 jobs paying over 110k in NYC. Many say new grads welcome. Yet, many people on these boards complain they cannot get a job in NYC and cause panic among others that we will not get jobs upon graduation. I still cannot understand the cause of such commotion, it seems like jobs are prevalent.

 

[type b pharmD]

A search on indeed.com for pharmacist jobs returns over 500 jobs paying over 110k in NYC. Many say new grads welcome. Yet, many people on these boards complain they cannot get a job in NYC and cause panic among others that we will not get jobs upon graduation. I still cannot understand the cause of such commotion, it seems like jobs are prevalent.

even if you ask aznfarmerboi, one of the people yelling about lack of nyc jobs, he will admit that there are jobs in nyc at hospitals and at duane reade. The high paying cush 120k walgreens jobs and the high paying easy staff hospital jobs are gone, and people who were looking for those are out of luck and they feel they were misled about the career potential so they are making a lot of noise.

Gotta realize a lot of people went into pharmacy cause they were told they could get a job 50 yards from their house making 100k a year and get the schedule they want, without any experience in pharmacy school. When they realize the illusion, they get really upset.

There are a lot FEWER jobs available now than there were. In the mid 2000s there were what, 10,000 jobs unfilled ? Now there are only a few thousand, so you can clearly see how times have changed.

It used to be you could get a 2.0 in pharmacy school and never set foot inside a pharmacy, and get 5 offers coming out of school for the pay and shift you wanted in the location you wanted. Now the trend is , you're gonna need high grades to get a residency, or you're gonna need an internship to get a job in retail. And you're probably gonna have to move to a rural or underserved area. And people dont really like thinking about that. A lot of them still want the easy way out. But the fact of the matter is if you get a good internship and excel in it, make great impressions on your superiors, and are willing to relocate, you'll still be absolutely fine. The demand for drugs isnt going anywhere -- jobs are still going to be sprouting up out of the ground so to speak, but there will be more competition for them.

 

[PharmaTope]

even if you ask aznfarmerboi, one of the people yelling about lack of nyc jobs, he will admit that there are jobs in nyc at hospitals and at duane reade. The high paying cush 120k walgreens jobs and the high paying easy staff hospital jobs are gone, and people who were looking for those are out of luck and they feel they were misled about the career potential so they are making a lot of noise.

Gotta realize a lot of people went into pharmacy cause they were told they could get a job 50 yards from their house making 100k a year and get the schedule they want, without any experience in pharmacy school. When they realize the illusion, they get really upset.

There are a lot FEWER jobs available now than there were. In the mid 2000s there were what, 10,000 jobs unfilled ? Now there are only a few thousand, so you can clearly see how times have changed.

It used to be you could get a 2.0 in pharmacy school and never set foot inside a pharmacy, and get 5 offers coming out of school for the pay and shift you wanted in the location you wanted. Now the trend is , you're gonna need high grades to get a residency, or you're gonna need an internship to get a job in retail. And you're probably gonna have to move to a rural or underserved area. And people dont really like thinking about that. A lot of them still want the easy way out. But the fact of the matter is if you get a good internship and excel in it, make great impressions on your superiors, and are willing to relocate, you'll still be absolutely fine. The demand for drugs isnt going anywhere -- jobs are still going to be sprouting up out of the ground so to speak, but there will be more competition for them.

might as well go into medicine then. at least in medicine you can generate income and have a practice. in pharmacy you will be abused now that there is a big surplus coming and growing more each year.

 

[RX CARE]

There is a hospital I know that has had a critical care pharmacist position open since the fall & they'd rather wait for someone who is PGY2 critical care residency trained with a few years of experience than be open to even interviewing a PGY2 critical care trained resident who has 6 mo of critical care experience.

Wooow....reeally?? I am tempted to say more luck to them. IMO I think they are pushing it...come on now. A trained PGY-2 with a few years experience will for the most part be settled and most prob content with wherever they gained that experience right? Or it would be really really hard to find and they would be vacant for quite a while. I would also like to think a PGY-2 technically has at least 2 years experience in the trade, given it is a residency, and if they especially did elective rotations for their specialty during PGY1. I wonder why so stringent. Is it a teaching hospital?

 

[p-rog]

I am seeing pharmacies being extra selective about who they want to hire. Some would rather wait for the right person and have a vacancy, than hire someone ie, less experienced than they prefer.

There is a hospital I know that has had a critical care pharmacist position open since the fall & they'd rather wait for someone who is PGY2 critical care residency trained with a few years of experience than be open to even interviewing a PGY2 critical care trained resident who has 6 mo of critical care experience.

That sounds ridiculous.

 

[rxforlife2004]

If you search for pharmacists jobs on indeed.com or other job sites, there are myriads of listings for virtually all major cities. Yet, all we hear about is saturation. I wonder what this discrepancy could be attributed to?

Job search online does not 100% reflect the actual openings. In fact, at my hospital, we had 2 pharmacist jobs opening 2 yrs ago, a week later, we decided to hire 2 previous interns that just got their licenses, and 2-3 months later, that job ads post was still up on the yahoo hot jobs...

Also, at my hospital, after that 2 hires, no more hiring for pharmacists since...(2 yrs already...no open spots)

 

[willrocks]

It would be a fair statement that the decline in pharmacist jobs can largely be attributed to the economic climate which is likely to improve over the next few years. Compound that with the mass influx of prescriptions to the health care system due to the aging baby boomers, which has not yet even really begun, and long-term our careers should be stable. Programs like POWER and the rapid increase of pharmacy school openings should not even come close to the long-term demand for pharmacists to fill the Rx's of the boomers. While it is true that chain retail pharmacy's are unlikely to return staffing levels to the point prior to the economic downfall, thinking about the sheer volume of prescription increases over the next three decades gives confidence to our job prospects.

Opinions?

 

[museabuse]

It would be a fair statement that the decline in pharmacist jobs can largely be attributed to the economic climate which is likely to improve over the next few years. Compound that with the mass influx of prescriptions to the health care system due to the aging baby boomers, which has not yet even really begun, and long-term our careers should be stable. Programs like POWER and the rapid increase of pharmacy school openings should not even come close to the long-term demand for pharmacists to fill the Rx's of the boomers. While it is true that chain retail pharmacy's are unlikely to return staffing levels to the point prior to the economic downfall, thinking about the sheer volume of prescription increases over the next three decades gives confidence to our job prospects.

Opinions?

They have been saying that baby boomer thing for over a decade, i believed it but now since the the amount of pharmacy schools keep increasing, and current pharmacy schools keep increasing class sizes, there definitely will be a surplus.
I wish it wasn't true but were alreadying see surpluses and the new schools and increased class sizes haven't even started graduating students. I hope I am wrong, but I don't think so.

I just wish one of these new schools would be honest with their mission statement. Instead of saying there trying to fulfill the demand of pharmacist and other lovely statements just flat out say, "were trying to make millions by chargiing students over 150k for a sub par education with a possible chance of landing a job"

 

[RX CARE]

It would be a fair statement that the decline in pharmacist jobs can largely be attributed to the economic climate which is likely to improve over the next few years. Compound that with the mass influx of prescriptions to the health care system due to the aging baby boomers, which has not yet even really begun, and long-term our careers should be stable. Programs like POWER and the rapid increase of pharmacy school openings should not even come close to the long-term demand for pharmacists to fill the Rx's of the boomers. While it is true that chain retail pharmacy's are unlikely to return staffing levels to the point prior to the economic downfall, thinking about the sheer volume of prescription increases over the next three decades gives confidence to our job prospects.

Opinions?

Same stuff different day......been talked about at lengths and realistically, that doesn't seem to be the case....just work to come out on top, network, and get recognized.....you get a job....it will become a "go getter" profession...just like they do in business....🙄