Johns Hopkins vs. HMS

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DrLightning

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Hello everyone,

I am currently in the fortunate position of deciding between JHU and HMS and I wanted to get sdn input on the curriculum between the two different schools. IMO, both schools have unique curricula and I want to choose a school where I'll be happiest. I do not have a location preference and I am willing to take out as much loan to go to the school of my choice.

JHU:
I had a terrific day at interview and thoroughly enjoyed my experience and the vibes I got from JHU students. My overall impression ran directly counter to some of the rumors I've heard about the competitive nature of the students. Everyone seemed very passionate/ambitious yet down to earth. The class size is smaller (I believe) of a little over 100 students. The students were put into different "houses," each complete with their own little lounge, which I thought was great for collegiality and some friendly rivalry. I especially loved the fact that students are broken down into "molecules" of 6 people and these small groups are matched to a faculty mentor. I left the interview day at JHU completely sold on the system they had going on at the school.

HMS:
To be completely honest, I was not too impressed by my interview. For what it's worth, I interviewed in early December, which universally tends to be a "slump" period in med schools (this claim was made by my Harvard tour guide). The students that came to talk to us seemed a little distant and I didn't feel like I connected well. However, I've also heard around that Harvard doesn't put too much effort into entertaining students on interview day because well... they're the big H. I heard some rave about their PBL/flipped class approach; I'm certainly in favor of any learning approach that invites active discussion and exploration of the material. I would love to get input on what people think about this approach particularly in medical education.

A little note: I went to a big, public state university for undergrad and I did not have the best academic experience. I attribute this to the large class-size and the fact that I didn't get the chance to interact with my professors on a one-to-one or even small group basis. For med school, I'm looking for a school that would foster this type of small group learning and allow me to make meaningful connections with their faculty. From that dimension alone, is HMS or JHU the better choice?

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I have friends at both, and IMO, Hopkins>HMS. Smaller class size seems better for you, there is a great sense of community at Hopkins, and you'll have awesome mentoring/research opportunities. You get really close with faculty and classmates through the different houses. It isn't at all competitive like some people say. Harvard is great as well, but from what I've been told/seen it doesn't have the same sense of camaraderie/community. (Big generalization) but students don't seem as happy at HMS as they are at Hopkins. Also remember that every school will dazzle you on second look, and that isn't necessarily what it is like all year around. You can't go wrong either way, both are great, but I'd go with your gut instincts/initial impressions and pick Hopkins. Congratulations, and good luck!
 
Disclosure up front: I'm at JHU and I love it, and I have only ever been to Boston as a tourist.

I think the competitiveness reputation is solely from the miserable premed experience people have over at the undergrad campus. The medical curriculum is true/unranked Pass-Fail and it isn't like that in the slightest. Can confirm that the molecules and colleges system are a great way to get settled in. The main reason people go to H instead is location, Bmore and the Hopkins area in particular are not nearly as bad as they used to be (think The Wire) but few would prefer it to Boston. As far as curriculum, I went in expecting to love small group work but ended up finding it had its downsides and I was glad we had only a couple hours of it per day. It sounds like you already caught on to how awesome the student body at Hopkins is, I got the same impression and it turned out 100% true. My theory is that this comes from the current students playing such a huge role in interview day and admissions. If you're already leaning towards JHU I'd come to second look to meet future classmates and learn about where to live in the city; if you're leaning Hahvahd and would go there with a better second impression of the atmosphere, then go to that second look to give them that chance. I bet the student bodies are much more similar than different.
 
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Thank you for all your wonderful responses. Always looking forward to more input.
I'm already committed to going to JHU second look since all the travel arrangements have already been planned before the big H decision came out. However, I'm planning on a trip to Boston earlier in the week (Apr 9-11ish) to meet with some labs from Dana-Farber that collaborate with ours. If there are those in my shoes that are planning an independent trip to Boston, message me and maybe we can coordinate!
At this point, I am still waiting on finances but my heart is telling me to go to Hopkins still. The only thing Harvard has over Hopkins right now is the "better" city (even then, I don't particularly care for city attractions). I think I just had an overall fantastic day at my Hopkins interview and everyone I met was just so down to earth and passionate.
@efle, do you have any experience living at 929? Approx. what percent of 1st year med students live there?
 
Thank you for all your wonderful responses. Always looking forward to more input.
I'm already committed to going to JHU second look since all the travel arrangements have already been planned before the big H decision came out. However, I'm planning on a trip to Boston earlier in the week (Apr 9-11ish) to meet with some labs from Dana-Farber that collaborate with ours. If there are those in my shoes that are planning an independent trip to Boston, message me and maybe we can coordinate!
At this point, I am still waiting on finances but my heart is telling me to go to Hopkins still. The only thing Harvard has over Hopkins right now is the "better" city (even then, I don't particularly care for city attractions). I think I just had an overall fantastic day at my Hopkins interview and everyone I met was just so down to earth and passionate.
@efle, do you have any experience living at 929? Approx. what percent of 1st year med students live there?
Good, good...

I didn't live at 929. About half the class does in M1, but a lot of it is due to uncertainty w/ finding housing elsewhere. Nearly everyone moves out to a few much better neighborhoods for 2nd year and beyond. To be totally honest it is overpriced, in the middle of nowhere with no restaurants or bars within walking distance (literally qualifies as a food desert) and is basically a giant dorm, albeit a brand new and pretty nice dorm. My recommendation is to do some investigating of fells and/or mt vernon neighborhoods at second look and then get an apartment out there.
 
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