Joint program

[DesiGirlxo]

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So I was doing some thinking and I wanted to know if there is a such thing as a joint MD/Residency program... and if so which Medical schools offer them?
I know this may sound completely preposterous to some of you but I would like to ask you to keep any harsh comments to yourself. Only helpful comments please!

Much appreciated.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

No. However if you get into a top school you'll have a much easier time getting into any residency through connections, but not really.

 

[DesiGirlxo]

Then what's this?

http://www.mayo.edu/msgme/oralmax-surg-rch.html

 

[therealdeall]

similar to this post, are there any early assurance programs that anyone knows of that are not restricted to what undergrad school you go to...most of them that i see only apply to certain affliated schools but does anyone know of any that are just open to any undergraduate?

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Then what's this?

http://www.mayo.edu/msgme/oralmax-surg-rch.html

To be an OMFS you need to first go to dental school. Afterward you match into an OMFS residency for dentists and then you go to a MD-OMFS program.

 

[gettheleadout]

The reason there is no such program is that the factors that go into measuring a student's adequacy for a given residency are much different than those for a given medical school program. When applying to medical school, MCAT scores along with GPA and extracurricular involvement are used to determine if a student is disciplined and interested enough to make medical school an experience worth allowing them. In contrast, when medical students match to residencies, GPA along with licensing exam scores and clinical evaluations are the relevant factors. Prior to medical school, students to not have experience with either education of the same material/magnitude or evaluated clinical duties like they do in medical school. Attempting to predict these in a college student would be foolish, not to mention giving a med student a guaranteed residency spot in a certain program would limit their choices to positions offered by the program, and would in most cases make highly competitive residences (with few positions nationally) off limits.

 

[Ischemic]

similar to this post, are there any early assurance programs that anyone knows of that are not restricted to what undergrad school you go to...most of them that i see only apply to certain affliated schools but does anyone know of any that are just open to any undergraduate?

I don't believe so because why would a university take on an undergrad through a BA/MD program and then let them go to a different medical school? BA/MD programs aren't the usual 4+4, you start med school sometime in junior or senior year so how does that make any sense to let you go to a different school?

 

[indya]

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[therealdeall]

what i mean by early assurance program is wen applicants apply like sop. or junior year of their undergrad. and if they are accepted get to skip the mcat and know in advance they are accepted somewhere to a med school - sry i didn't mean ba/md programs.

 

[Ischemic]

what i mean by early assurance program is wen applicants apply like sop. or junior year of their undergrad. and if they are accepted get to skip the mcat and know in advance they are accepted somewhere to a med school - sry i didn't mean ba/md programs.

I'm not sure about this exactly. I would assume that you would be allowed to apply to other places after being accepted to an early assurance program. But you can't take that admittance and try to parlay it into anther acceptance somewhere else. Also, the requirements tend to be different from school to school, you may still need to take the MCAT or you may not but must fulfill other requirements like research etc. Anyway, if you can skip the MCAT and the whole BS app cycle please do, it's not very fun and incredibly expensive.

 

[Hoody]

So I was doing some thinking and I wanted to know if there is a such thing as a joint MD/Residency program... and if so which Medical schools offer them?
I know this may sound completely preposterous to some of you but I would like to ask you to keep any harsh comments to yourself. Only helpful comments please!

Much appreciated.

I dont knw about med school/resdiency programs, never heard of one, but I do know that some schools, like mayo, have combined residency/fellowship programs.

 

[JoshuaGuit]

I could be totally wrong, so please some med student/attending/whatever correct me if I am.

Even through shadowing, I don't see how there is any way you can logically say "I want to go through this specific specialty residency" when you're in undergrad. From what I've read on these boards, third year of med school is when you're legitimately exposed to different general portions of hospital health care through rotations and for the most part is when people decide what they really want to do.

Being dedicated to one residency without going through such a process seems foolish... but anyone please feel free to correct me!

 

[Ischemic]

I could be totally wrong, so please some med student/attending/whatever correct me if I am.

Even through shadowing, I don't see how there is any way you can logically say "I want to go through this specific specialty residency" when you're in undergrad. From what I've read on these boards, third year of med school is when you're legitimately exposed to different general portions of hospital health care through rotations and for the most part is when people decide what they really want to do.

Being dedicated to one residency without going through such a process seems foolish... but anyone please feel free to correct me!

You're right. People don't necessarily know what they'll ultimately want to do until they experience the lifestyle firsthand. They may come in with a thought of I want to do ortho or I want to do plastics etc but wil come to realize that either they don't have the grades to do certain specialties or they find out the lifestyle/people in that field/patients you deal with sucks and end up loving something else. That's why you should always enter med school with an open mind and not be thoroughly locked into a specialty cause you'll be missing out on something better.