jugular venous pulse mnemonics

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kaml20

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I have problems with remembering the jvp pulse no matter how many times i go through it. wondering how others do it. there is one mnemonic from dit that i put below and one that i made but for some reason its not sticking in my head. do you guys have any that are good or can expand on the ones below?

dit:
at carters xing vehicles yield (for ACXVY waves)

mine:
A Cardiac ventricle X Volume of atrial fluid = Your atrial flow

A = A wave - atrial contraction
Cardiac ventricle = C wave - ventricular contraction
X = X descent
Volume of atrial fluid = V wave - Atrial filling
Your atrial flow = Y wave - passive atrial flow

input would be greatly appreciated...
 
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Agreed this is not something you should be making a mnemonic for. Just look at the graph and try and umderstand it. with the types of questions you get on the pressure curve, a mnnemonic really wont be helpful. Its gonna be a conceptual application. If you dont understand it youll probably end up getting it wrong anyways
 
I can only agree with the above. try to understand what produces these waves, they occur due to changes in pressure in the right atrium.
focus on a,c,v waves. correlate it with the cardiac cycle if that helps you but you should understand it.
page 257 FA2011 if that is any help.
 
Agreed this is not something you should be making a mnemonic for. Just look at the graph and try and umderstand it. with the types of questions you get on the pressure curve, a mnnemonic really wont be helpful. Its gonna be a conceptual application. If you dont understand it youll probably end up getting it wrong anyways

yeah I understand that point, for me though I don't feel comfortable until I reach the point where If someone randomly asks me a question about it I'd be able to reproduce everything from scratch accurately. the concept is there but the wave letters are not so intuitive, if there was even a little context as to why the X descent is called the X descent that made logical sense then there wouldn't be a problem.

If theres a question that does not show a graph but asks to recall what a particular wave is by letter then I'd be screwed. oh well, thanks for the input.
 
I don't know if this will be helpful for you but the way I think of it:

First I pronounce ACXVY as "ak-x-vee," kinda like a bad way of saying axillary.

A wave: A for atrial contraction
C wave/blip: ventricular contraction
X descent: no clue
V wave: V for venous filling, also pathological giant V wave--ventricular contraction
Y descent: iunno, Y comes after X?

It's silly and stupid, maybe a little confusing, but if it works, there you have it.
 
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