PhD/PsyD Just a thread to post the weirdest/whackiest/dumbest mental health-related stuff you come across in the (social) media...

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Honestly, I suspect it’s because they don’t understand that psychodynamic and psychoanalytic therapy can be just as regimented as the CBT branch. The progressive are all about “I don’t want to follow the manual and just want my feels to lead the session.” Except, because psychoanalytic/dynamic theory is not taught well at all (esp at masters level), it turns into “they must not have a lot of rules because I’ve never been taught the rules.”

I’m surprised at the idea of psychoanalysis as a counterculture lol. What happened to good old “Rogerian” therapy with these folks?

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Drugs are bad, but some are good, but only if good ppl do them, not the bad ppl.

 
Sure, but much of what they're advocating for is exceptionally old, psychoanalytic-derived stuff. Which I think is odd for so-called progressives to support given they claim CBT is "Western, White-centric, and patriarchal..." like, bruh, psychoanalysis is as Western, White-centric, and patriarchal as literally any mainstream psychotherapy modality has ever been.

I can see a doctrinaire Marxist arguing that psychoanalysis is almost pre-capitalist in its outlook and I think this is a line of argumentation you could develop asserting that it is in fact more properly understood as feudal than anything else. Must remember that money =! capitalist. I am not much interested in developing this line of argumentation myself not being a doctrinaire Marxist but I can see it.
 
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Honestly, I've noticed that many of the people online who praise psychoanalysis (especially Lacan) and hate on CBT are men.
 
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I literally never heard of Lacan until social media. Never came up in all of my years of schooling, including my doctorate.
 
I literally never heard of Lacan until social media. Never came up in all of my years of schooling, including my doctorate.
Same. Half of his writings sound like word salad. I'm genuinely interested in why folks enjoy/prefer his flavor of analysis.
 
So, I had left my state association due to several reasons, but their movement away from science being one of them. Just received an ad from them today about one of their upcoming CEs, it's a training for parental and caregiver support within polyvagal theory. Just sliding farther and farther into the pseudoscience rabbit hole. I held it back somewhat when I was in leadership, but looks like there are no longer any science oriented folks leading the way there at all.
 
So, I had left my state association due to several reasons, but their movement away from science being one of them. Just received an ad from them today about one of their upcoming CEs, it's a training for parental and caregiver support within polyvagal theory. Just sliding farther and farther into the pseudoscience rabbit hole. I held it back somewhat when I was in leadership, but looks like there are no longer any science oriented folks leading the way there at all.
The proliferation of all this nonsense is concerning. I'd imagine other professions have similar things happening within their fields and associations, how have they gone about quelling it? Or do they ignore it? Do true empirically supported treatments and approaches always win out in the end or is it possible we could see them being phased out?
 
The proliferation of all this nonsense is concerning. I'd imagine other professions have similar things happening within their fields and associations, how have they gone about quelling it? Or do they ignore it? Do true empirically supported treatments and approaches always win out in the end or is it possible we could see them being phased out?

Anti-science and anti-intellectualism tends to run in trends. We're approaching a peak of that (hopefully it can't get much worse).
 
I recently saw a commercial related to neuroscience watching the NBA playoffs and could not help but feel like the EEG I saw in the commercial was the qEEG in neurofeedback that has very few leads and the nonsensical "brain mapping" program that makes practically limited sense to anyone who works in the neurology world, or has a basic understanding of what an EEG actually measures. Can anyone confirm if this commercial study is just pop-neuroscience, or is it legit research science? If it is junk, crazy to think it has made it to the mainstream like this...

 
I recently saw a commercial related to neuroscience watching the NBA playoffs and could not help but feel like the EEG I saw in the commercial was the qEEG in neurofeedback that has very few leads and the nonsensical "brain mapping" program that makes practically limited sense to anyone who works in the neurology world, or has a basic understanding of what an EEG actually measures. Can anyone confirm if this commercial study is just pop-neuroscience, or is it legit research science? If it is junk, crazy to think it has made it to the mainstream like this...

Crazy to think that people are using junk data to sell stuff? I would be willing to bet that it is crap without even looking further. 😏
 
The proliferation of all this nonsense is concerning. I'd imagine other professions have similar things happening within their fields and associations, how have they gone about quelling it? Or do they ignore it? Do true empirically supported treatments and approaches always win out in the end or is it possible we could see them being phased out?
Medicine has had its fair share of naturopaths and quacks for ages. The good thing is that *most* (not all) folks who make it through the 8+ years of indentured servitude- I mean, intensive training- probably aren’t the ones that are super into pseudoscience. The duration of the training and the guide bars help keep the profession in check. Anyone who gets pseudosciency tends to be called out or has already chosen an alternate path like naturopathy or chiropractic.

Thus, I wager that the length and required delayed gratification of training does decrease the pseudoscience somewhat. Subjectively speaking, my doctoral trained psychologist colleagues were much better than the 2-year masters clinicians. Anyone can breeze through a 2-year program (I had a 4.0 while working two full time jobs, it was a joke and my program was considered one of the best in the state), and then go out and do whatever they want. They’re not taught how to evaluate whether something is scientific. Heck, they’re barely taught statistics and research design.

The other part is just licensing and professional standards. A physician caught injecting chicken blood into their patient will probably have their license revoked. A therapist recommending sound baths and sage probably gets praised for innovative practice.

More rigorous education and licensing standards would help pull a profession out of pseudoscience, but alas…
 
Heck, why not all of the above! There’s nothing saying you can’t pick and choose and throw it in a blender! 😍😍😍
 
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