Just bombed my 2nd mcat. I am devestated

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My first one in sept was 25 Q VR= 8 PS=8 BS=9
April 09 was 26R VR=6 PS=10 BS=10

How the hell did i got DOWN in VR??? What am i suppsed to do now??? I worked SO HARD for the 2nd mcat. Studied from Nov-April, using berkeley review/EK 101. I want to apply this cylce and live in chicago...really hoping to get into a chicago school.

I am so devestated and lost right now, i honestly cant stop crying and dont know what to do. My VR score literally makes me want to scream.
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Hey... sorry about your score... but if you want to look on the bright side your PS and BS both rose to 10's.

The verbal was probably just a fluke or something... I think one more go wouldn't be a bad idea.

Also there are SOME schools that may take the best score from each section. You may want to try and call some of the schools you were aiming for and see what their policies are.

Plus all hope is not lost... you are obviously very capable of doing well on the MCAT. If all else fails just study and try again. One year is not going to be the death of you.

Good luck. 😳
 
dont worry you can prolly still get into chicago mid (i believe thats what its called, the DO school), if not consider a carribean school. if being a doctor is something you really want to do your going to have to make sacrifices, it might not be the road you wanna take but a 26 is competetive for many DO schools and the carribean. Nothing worth having comes easy, there are bumps in the road but with persistence things work out.
 
dint worry you can prolly still get into chicago mid (i believe thats what its called, the DO school), if not consider a carribean school. if being a doctor is something you really want to do your going to have to make sacrifices, it might not be the road you wanna take but a 26 is competetive for many DO schools and the carribean. Nothing worth having comes easy, there are bumps in the road but with persistence things work out.


Agreed...try and keep your head up...you have done two things not many people do: muster up the courage to get into the ring with a test that destroys dreams... and two....get back up, dust yourself off, and prepare for a second round within a giant that knocked you down the first round...You should be super proud of that...Dont let your head play tricks on yea and tell you this is representative of the kind of student or person you are... I gotta a buddy that was in similar shoes years ago..he's now a chief resident at a university program bc he took what he could get...ie...ROSS...your not out of the race...you still have one more chance to take the test... i would apply this cycle to different places, carribean, DO, a few MD, and see what happens...if you dont have peace with the outcomes whatever they may be then you have one more chance at the MCAT!!! SMILE AND KEEP THE DREAM ALIVE!!!
 
Verbal is NOT EASY. Seriously, I find verbal to be much harder than the sciences. Sciences are easy to raise but verbal requires alot of flexibility that needs to be worked on. People get in with 26 so I would apply but if you don't get in, retake.
 
Won't i get screened out by most MD schools in chicago based on my VR score? Ugh this is so horrible and very unexpected 🙁
 
My first one in sept was 25 Q VR= 8 PS=8 BS=9
April 09 was 26R VR=6 PS=10 BS=10

How the hell did i got DOWN in VR??? What am i suppsed to do now??? I worked SO HARD for the 2nd mcat. Studied from Nov-April, using berkeley review/EK 101. I want to apply this cylce and live in chicago...really hoping to get into a chicago school.

I am so devestated and lost right now, i honestly cant stop crying and dont know what to do. My VR score literally makes me want to scream.
🙁 🙁

First of all, I relate to what you're going through. I was doing really well on verbal and then my scores started dramatically declining--right before my may 22 mcat. *groan.*

Also, i understand your feelings about it. I think it's important that we, as neurotic, type A premeds, truly learn to separate our self esteem from "performing"; i.e. grades, mcat scores, etc.

some of my fellow pre-meds are brilliant and breeze through mcats and science classes effortlessly. um, not me. i need to study. i failed college chemistry, went to rehab, and then got back up. and, unfortunately, i'm still learning how to fail. and, being a premed, i want to fail perfectly--learn exactly what i need to and never make that mistake again. lol....not so much.

you're a human being, and you have experienced a set back. I have too. "they" always tell you that michael jordan got cut from his HS basketball team. The Beatles played for seven years in crappy nightclubs before getting famous. my point is, if you and I really want to be doctors (and I am absolutely passionate about becoming one), then we have to accept that we will have to accept that mistakes are inevitable, and they don't always feel great. In the end, I know that my mistakes will make me a better doctor, and a happier person.

Life isn't black and white, and it is largely out of your control. Think about it: in the next year, you will make mistakes that will alter the course of your life forever. So will I-so will everyone. To me, that's why life is worth living. Why the hell would I want to know how it all turned out/be able to control it all? no way man. If you're not making mistakes, you're not putting yourself out there. I'd rather have the fear of the unknown and TRY something that scares me rather than the pain and regret of never having the courage to go for what I wanted. the worse your mistake, the more opportunity to learn.

What I can relate to, and what I observe in you, is that you are choosing to beat up on yourself. Ok, please. I can't think of anyone who needs to learn how to self-loath better. not me or you or anyone. The lesson here is to learn how to accept your mistakes for what they are, but still have self-respect and passion for doing what you love. I am not perfect at this (I definitely have days where I feel like the biggest ****** to ever try to be a doctor), but I have improved. The best thing i've ever done is learn humility: I make mistakes, and I'm really smart nonetheless, but I can still do my best to improve. Self respect and humility doesn't mean you stop working hard. It just means you know when it's coming from a place of self respect versus punishment, you know?

Don't waste one more minute on beating yourself up. It's futile. For instance, there's nothing i can do about being "stupid" or "******ed" when I get 6 on a verbal section. I have no control over these things, because they are subjective value judgments. However, I can control whether or not I look at advice other ppl on SDN have for me, whether I do my EK verbal exercises, etc. You are doing a good job of this already by posting on SDN....keep it up.

You have no control over the past or what your scores were or how your study habits could have been better. I can almost gaurantee, however, that if you really look back and look deeply into what your real mistake was, it would involve beating up on yourself instead of taking the opportunity to learn something. I have done that so many times.... I sometimes avoided studying for certain things on the mcat, because I hated how dumb I felt compared to all the brilliant kids who have it come so easily. I think of brilliant ppl like that kinda like natural atheletes, totally attractive ppl, or fabulously wealthy types. it'd be awesome to go through life with such ease. I'd love to take the be one of those kids who studied for two weeks and got a 40 or whatver.... However, we have to work hard at it, and when we do well on it, I will feel extremely proud of my score, because it didn't take simple brilliance. It goes back to me failing chemistry and going to rehab, which took a lot of humility b/c i had to admit i wasn't in control, you know? And I've had to keep re-learning how to be humble and push through physics, even though it was like reading greek.

I see a wonderful opportunity for you to rethink some plans in your life. I know it's disappointing to have your expectations not be met, but you will live. I know it doesn't feel like it right now, but it might be a stepping stone to you getting into your top choice med school, or making a best friend, or whatever. It might just lead to a crappy apartment and more studying, but that's life, and it's awesome. Whatever you do, quit obsessing about your score (i.e. beating yourself up) unless you're gonna do something about it, b/c that's what's in your control. I hope I see a post in a few months about how you shook off this last mcat and you did what was necessary to reach your goal.

I'd say good luck, but it's not luck. It's what you make of it. 🙂
 
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You can't keep beating yourself up about this. You studied hard for several months. I was in the same shoes as you. I blew the sciences away with 10 and 12, but the verbal kicked my butt (7). I was down for a bit, but realized that I worked hard, put the time in and got what my ability allowed to receive. Maybe take it one more time, only if you're going to put the same effort in. I know the medical college of WI takes best numbers. If you have a high gpa and apply early to that school you'll have a shot to get in.
 
Never ever give up, man, and if it makes you feel any better I just went 27 to a 28.. improved in PS but dipped in VR, so close but no cigar. I'm going for lucky number three in August myself. Just get ya helmet back on and in the trenches.

Be confident in yourself. You had a 10 in both the sciences, you had a bad day on VR. Do a ton of VR work, and really get into analyzing why you got questions both wrong and right. Try to understand what questions are looking for. You tend to start seeing whats going on with VR over time with practice and careful post-game analysis. Best of luck!
 
My first one in sept was 25 Q VR= 8 PS=8 BS=9
April 09 was 26R VR=6 PS=10 BS=10

How the hell did i got DOWN in VR??? What am i suppsed to do now??? I worked SO HARD for the 2nd mcat. Studied from Nov-April, using berkeley review/EK 101. I want to apply this cylce and live in chicago...really hoping to get into a chicago school.

I am so devestated and lost right now, i honestly cant stop crying and dont know what to do. My VR score literally makes me want to scream.
🙁 🙁

I'm so sorry to hear about your score. I think I might be in the same boat when my scores arrive on Tuesday.

Retake it. Give it one last shot. Verbal is pinched in between physics and writing - I know quite a few people who got low verbal marks and high physics and bio scores. Take it one more time (maybe in July?) and then see what your options are. You can do it!!!

My two cents.
 
I'm really sorry to hear this. But I'm gonna give you a different advice instead of the same usual "try again" advice.

MCAT is an assessment of how you would do in real life as a doctor. In reality, you don't get multiple tries in actual life events. There's a reason why they cap off the number of attempts you're allowed to make on this test.

Consider a different profession and a different path. Life isn't about med school and you can totally find happiness through other ways.

Good luck.
 
I'm really sorry to hear this. But I'm gonna give you a different advice instead of the same usual "try again" advice.

MCAT is an assessment of how you would do in real life as a doctor. In reality, you don't get multiple tries in actual life events. There's a reason why they cap off the number of attempts you're allowed to make on this test.

Consider a different profession and a different path. Life isn't about med school and you can totally find happiness through other ways.

Good luck.

Harsh advice. Honesty, I do not see a very strong coorelation b/n MCAT score and how someone would do as a physician. There are students who will do very well on this test and do pooly in med. school and end up as poor physicians. To the OP, I know what you're going through and I say don't give up.
 
OP - if this is the dream you have, you can certainly do it. It's obvious that your sciences have improved, and the sciences are what ultimately will guide your medical career. VR can be a shot in the dark.

Never give up if this is what you want. A large part of getting into med school is persistance and resiliency. The adcoms want to be sure you are committed to the profession.

On the upshot, third time was the charm for me. You can do the same. 👍
 
I'm really sorry to hear this. But I'm gonna give you a different advice instead of the same usual "try again" advice.

MCAT is an assessment of how you would do in real life as a doctor. In reality, you don't get multiple tries in actual life events. There's a reason why they cap off the number of attempts you're allowed to make on this test.

Consider a different profession and a different path. Life isn't about med school and you can totally find happiness through other ways.

Good luck.

I kind of agree with this...

There will be obstacles that are high stress and challenging as a physician, except if you mess up then you will kill someone...

2 times isn't that many...so give it a 3rd if you really want. Just realize not everyone is cut out to be a doctor...there's a reason so few are.

I have tons of friends who would be great docs in terms of bedside manner but the reality is they just aren't smart enough no matter what they do...life isn't fair and it never will be- that's just how it is
 
I'm really sorry to hear this. But I'm gonna give you a different advice instead of the same usual "try again" advice.

MCAT is an assessment of how you would do in real life as a doctor. In reality, you don't get multiple tries in actual life events. There's a reason why they cap off the number of attempts you're allowed to make on this test.

Consider a different profession and a different path. Life isn't about med school and you can totally find happiness through other ways.

Good luck.

I feel so compelled to respond to this nonsense. As an older applicant, I have about 10 friends who have completed or are completing medical school, and pretty much all of them say that USMLE is a different beast, and they all did well, despite some not doing so well on the MCAT. As an example, one friend got a 25 MCAT, went to an allopathic school, and last year scored a 232 on step 1. Look it up if you don't know how good that score is. Furthermore, almost all of them say that while the MCAT is a reasonable test used to compare applicants, it is not representative of how you will be tested in medical school. Take that for what it's worth. The OP has the ability to succeed on this exam, as evidenced by his/her two scores. For plenty of people, 3 is the magic number.

As pre-meds, we don't know diddly squat, so eat some humble pie and crush your own dreams, not someone else's.

Quite frankly, OP, you remind me of how I was last week after I got my score. I finally decided I am giving it one more go (my 3rd try). Good luck, and just do your best, you got this.
 
OP....you have scores comparable with good students at the better caribbean schools and DO schools. Is this to say all these students will be poor physicians because they werent "smart enough" to get into US MD? certainly not....

Apply MD/DO.......i bet u get in somewhere and do fine in med school
 
I kind of agree with this...

There will be obstacles that are high stress and challenging as a physician, except if you mess up then you will kill someone...

2 times isn't that many...so give it a 3rd if you really want. Just realize not everyone is cut out to be a doctor...there's a reason so few are.

I have tons of friends who would be great docs in terms of bedside manner but the reality is they just aren't smart enough no matter what they do...life isn't fair and it never will be- that's just how it is


are you kidding me? please do everyone a favor and keep comments like this to yourself.

I thought empathy is a big characteristic in becoming a doctor? you obviously don't have any and I can't say that you ever will. oh well, life is never fair and it never will be - that's just how it is huh 🙂
 
I kind of agree with this...

There will be obstacles that are high stress and challenging as a physician, except if you mess up then you will kill someone...

2 times isn't that many...so give it a 3rd if you really want. Just realize not everyone is cut out to be a doctor...there's a reason so few are.

I have tons of friends who would be great docs in terms of bedside manner but the reality is they just aren't smart enough no matter what they do...life isn't fair and it never will be- that's just how it is



let's not dash dreams here so quickly. What is your GPA/ EC's, etc? My MCAT was basically that. If GPA is decent, then you have plenty of hope for DO schools. Being a doctor is being a doctor. Most people won't even question the letters that come after your name. YOu can re-take if you think you can improve, but what you have MCAT-wise is ok for many DO schools
 
I just wanted to point out that I wasn't out to crush the OP's dreams. I just wanted to give a bit of variation to the answers that she was getting.

The fact is that we don't know her background or what she's dealing with. All we know is that she has written the MCAT twice and that's all there is to it. I think you should give it another try and give it you utmost all, but I am also pointing out that this test has already crushed your pride twice. Isn't the max number of MCATs that you're allowed to write 3? If she doesn't get the 3rd one either, then I'm saying that she should keep her mind open to other alternatives in her career path. We can't predict the future and people who are overally optimistic usually give off a biased view of the real world.

There's failures and successes in life. You may have to find your successes elsewhere. When you do, you may regret time gone by. Or you may not. I do not know you. I'm only some random posting on an Internet Forum.

Best of luck in life.
Regards,
SuperSaiyan3.
 
are you kidding me? please do everyone a favor and keep comments like this to yourself.

I thought empathy is a big characteristic in becoming a doctor? you obviously don't have any and I can't say that you ever will. oh well, life is never fair and it never will be - that's just how it is huh 🙂

Hello traditional idealistic pre-med who thinks the world is all sunshine and rainbows.


Do you HONESTLY believe that every single person out there can be a doctor? Seriously?
 
Hello traditional idealistic pre-med who thinks the world is all sunshine and rainbows.


Do you HONESTLY believe that every single person out there can be a doctor? Seriously?

being a traditional pre-med who busts their butt to get into medicine, no I don't think everyone get be a doc. really, my issue with your comment was that you offered nothing but discouragement. if you think that your "advice" was realistic, then you should've given it with a hint of optimism or at least in a neutral tone. medicine is all about helping people. do you HONESTLY think that your comment helped the OP? this is someone's dream you were writing about, try to be considerate about their feelings
 
Hello traditional idealistic pre-med who thinks the world is all sunshine and rainbows.


Do you HONESTLY believe that every single person out there can be a doctor? Seriously?

Alaska21, anyone out there has the ability to be a doctor. ANYONE. However, some people lack in determination and others may lack financially. The best doctors out there are the ones that are hard-working, humble, and empathetic. Empathy is something you seem to lack. Way to go trying to put down a fellow pre-med who has clearly shown interest in pursuing medicine and has clearly been working hard to achieve his goal. Someone is going to put you in place one day and it's going to hit you like a pile of bricks since you clearly seem to be full of yourself. Show some humility and if you're not going to offer genuine advice, keep your opinions to yourself.
 
I think it's time to think of alternatives to Chicago and MD schools. Honestly, if you really want to be a doctor that badly, then it shouldn't matter where you go or whether it's an MD or DO school. Also, keep in mind, the MCAT is a strange test, certain passages on the verbal appeal to certain people more. Don't waste one more day crying, if you wanna be a doctor, it's time to come up with multiple paths to accomplish the same goal rather than dead set yourself on chicago schools. It's almost as bad as if i were to say, i only wanna go to CA schools with a 26 mcat, my stress would muliply a billion times.

You can do this! 👍
 
Some of the comments in this thread are ridiculous. There is no need to be a jerk. Congratulations on your incredible MCAT scores, I'm sure you guys will destroy your boards and match into the ROADS. Hopefully your patients will like you just as much as you like yourself.

Oh and the comment correlating MCAT scores to patients dying is a nice one as well. I'm sure reading about Japanese poetry in the 1600's will make you an excellent surgeon or ER doc. Every physician I have talked with has said the MCAT is the biggest joke. Lets face it, med schools use it to separate applicant from applicant. It tells them nothing about what kind of physician that person is going to be.
 
Thank you to everyone that has been giving me constructive/positive advice. I definitely needed some support since you all understand what im going through. I think i am just going to apply this year, to MD/DO schools and see what happens. My gpa is 3.77 overall, and a 3.86 science gpa, so that part of my app is good. My extraciriculars include working for plastic surgeon for 4 yrs, shadowing a DO at cook county hospital, and shadowing eye surgeon/lasik procedures, 1 yr of endo research, lots of volunteering at animal shelters, habitat, 2 hospitals etc, TA for bio class, dance team at school, and youth mentor.

I feel like all the other aspects of my app are strong except for the mcat score. I am still extremely bummed considereding i studied for MONTHS on end. I also know it is a huge part of the app, but i am just hoping that one of the schools i apply to see beyond my score. Thanks again to everyone's advice/support!! 🙂 🙂
 
No problem OP. Keep plugging at it. You got a great GPA and have shown consistent involvement with ECs. You would be very competitve for DO, and MD isn't out of the picture. People really need to go through MSAR and look at the published data on the AAMCs website - people have gotten accepted with Ari's numbers the last three years.

And since people have mentioned incorrect interpretations of the 'how many times can one take rule': its three in a given year, but no total limit. However... nearly every one would agree three total should be it, after that it gets a little ridiculous IMHO.
 
Some of the comments in this thread are ridiculous. There is no need to be a jerk. Congratulations on your incredible MCAT scores, I'm sure you guys will destroy your boards and match into the ROADS. Hopefully your patients will like you just as much as you like yourself.

Oh and the comment correlating MCAT scores to patients dying is a nice one as well. I'm sure reading about Japanese poetry in the 1600's will make you an excellent surgeon or ER doc. Every physician I have talked with has said the MCAT is the biggest joke. Lets face it, med schools use it to separate applicant from applicant. It tells them nothing about what kind of physician that person is going to be.

word.
 
The MCAT is supposed to level the playing field because not everyone goes to an Ivy league school or to a school with a well known reputation. So you cannot compare the grades or the courses from those schools to another little school in a podunk little town that only the locals know about.

Second, the MCAT is a test of critical thinking and not just regurgitation of the information. There is absolutely no correlation to how good of a doctor you are going to be and how well you did on the MCAT. In order to succeed in medical school you need to think critically. Not every patient is going to come in with the tell tale symptoms. You need to be able to take the information given to you and apply it.

For the OP. Have your pity party because you need to. Tell yourself that the party will last for a very specific length. When it is done, regroup and decide what you are going to do. Statistically speaking, retakes generally result in a lower score unless you change something. Go back and review the entire day and try to see what may have been different or what may have gone wrong. In addition, realize that the VR section is specifically made to test your critical thinking. Take the information from the passage and apply it. Rarely will you be able to find the answer in the passage itself.
 
I wouldn't listen to any negative posts on this forum about looking at other careers. Honestly, the majority of these people are other premeds who are trying to help their chances of acceptance.

Here's a thread proving the MCAT doesn't really mean anything in the long run. USMLE Step 1 is a HELL of a lot more important than the MCAT.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=545247&highlight=mcat+step+1

Good luck!
 
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2 times isn't that many...so give it a 3rd if you really want. Just realize not everyone is cut out to be a doctor...there's a reason so few are.

👎

Wow....really, guy?
 
MCAT is an assessment of how you would do in real life as a doctor.

No it's not. It is just a test on useless crap you have to memorize to get into med school. The stuff you need to learn for the MCAT has next to nothing to do with medical school- trust me, I'm almost done with med school. It is just another hurdle to jump over to get into med school.

That said, I do think there is a significant difference in the reasoning skills between someone who scored a 36 and someone who scored a 26. Like it or not there is a correlation between your USMLE board scores and how you did on the MCAT.

OP, apply now but I dont think you will have a ton of luck. If you dont get in, take your time for your last MCAT try. If you need to take a vacation and clear your head. Come back fresh and really give it your absolute all. If you dont get in the first time, besides re-taking the MCAT, consider expanding your applications to DO schools as well.


Alaska21, anyone out there has the ability to be a doctor. ANYONE. However, some people lack in determination and others may lack financially. The best doctors out there are the ones that are hard-working, humble, and empathetic. Empathy is something you seem to lack. Way to go trying to put down a fellow pre-med who has clearly shown interest in pursuing medicine and has clearly been working hard to achieve his goal. Someone is going to put you in place one day and it's going to hit you like a pile of bricks since you clearly seem to be full of yourself. Show some humility and if you're not going to offer genuine advice, keep your opinions to yourself.

The bolded part in your post is patently false. Only a certain portion of the population would have the brain power to get through medical school. This is one reason you see such a high fail/attrition rate in the Caribbean medical schools- those schools select people that just can't hack it.

Working hard sometimes just isnt enough. Interest definitely isnt enough. Every year there are a ton of kids who dont get into med school but want it just as much as you or I. Are they just as deserving- frankly no, they are not.

This idea that empathy is what makes a great doctpr has been shoved down our throats and made to seem like it is of the utmost import by the same touchy-feely people who push the uselessness that is cultural competency training (as a side note, you dont need to have a lecturer tell you over the course of 2 hours how important it is to understand your patients and where they come from, this is common sense and just wastes my time)

Is empathy impt in being a doctor? Sure. Is is as impt as having the smarts and drive to know what you need to know and do what you need to do. Not even close. You can still be a great doctor without dripping of empathy. Do you honestly think Bob the radiologist weeps elephant tears every time he diagnoses stage 4 cancer... doubt it. But he does his job well and his is a good doctor for it.

Being nice and cordial is a vital part of being a doctor as is having empathy for your patients' conditions. But let's not confuse the most vital piece of the puzzle- that knowledge is what makes a great doctor and empathy is what makes people like the great doctor.
 
To the OP:
(Just to echo what everyone else has been saying) If you REALLY want to be a doctor (for the right reasons), then yes I suggest you keep on trying. Not everyone gets a 30+ on their first MCAT try, as SDN would make you believe. Remember that most people who go on a forum to discuss med school/MCAT are probably overachievers and/or very very very passionate about their goal (yes that includes myself 🙂). Secondly, keep in mind that most people wouldn't post their scores if it's less than 30 simply out of pride.

As far as you getting a 26 MCAT and now your med school dream is over...it's really up to YOU whether or not it's over. If you give up, then yes, you have no chance of getting in. A friend of mine graduated with very similar stats to you, very high GPA, plenty of extracurriculars...but scored a 24 on the MCAT. Yes a 24. Guess what? She's in her 3rd year now at a Florida med school.

One person I know of traveled over-seas to do volunteer things and graduated with a decent GPA also, but cannot score well on the MCAT. She's right now in the National Guards with hopes of getting into some government med school program one day. Her brother is doing the same thing, except he's in the army, not the national guard.

Then I also know one guy who wanted to become a doctor, but took 8 years to get his Bachelors. Obviously, he hasn't even tried the MCAT.

My point of telling you these (true) stories is that if you have the motivation, you'll probably get there some day. However, along with motivation, empathy, blah blah blah, you also need... well... some intelligence. I am by no means putting you down, since I haven't even taken the mcat yet. But it really annoys me when people say "if you have the empathy, you're going to make a GREAT doctor". Well, problem is before you get the be the empathetic doctor and all, you need to prove that you have the brains to do well in your classes, and the MCAT. Now whether or not the MCAT means **** after you take it... is unimportant. The main idea is that you HAVE to take it. No empathy in the world will get you into med school if you haven't taken the MCAT. Plus, you're actually in much better shoes than many people. You HAVE a great GPA, something that not many people have. You can improve your MCAT score in a matter of months, but it will take people YEARS to improve their GPA by just 0.xy.

You have to be realistic about it, and tackle your weakness and just go on and pursue your dream.
 
My first one in sept was 25 Q VR= 8 PS=8 BS=9
April 09 was 26R VR=6 PS=10 BS=10

How the hell did i got DOWN in VR??? What am i suppsed to do now??? I worked SO HARD for the 2nd mcat. Studied from Nov-April, using berkeley review/EK 101. I want to apply this cylce and live in chicago...really hoping to get into a chicago school.

I am so devestated and lost right now, i honestly cant stop crying and dont know what to do. My VR score literally makes me want to scream.
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hey man, you spelled devAstated wrong. why dont you enroll at a local community college in english, and go from there.
 
hey man, you spelled devAstated wrong. why dont you enroll at a local community college in english, and go from there.

Not to be picky, but you also didn't capitalize the "H" in "Hey". Maybe you should learn how to write sentences correctly at the same local community college as the OP. 😛
 
hey man, you spelled devAstated wrong. why dont you enroll at a local community college in english, and go from there.


Is somebody else going to point out the irony in this statement or should I? Oh screw it, I'll take a stab at it. I think it is quite presumptuous of you to attempt and correct another person's spelling and/or grammar when the short passage you have constructed is riddled with errors.
 
Is somebody else going to point out the irony in this statement or should I? Oh screw it, I'll take a stab at it. I think it is quite presumptuous of you to attempt and correct another person's spelling and/or grammar when the short passage you have constructed is riddled with errors.

I was just suggesting an alternative, since it might help his mcat verbal score. I fortunately had adequate prep. in college to do well on the mcat verbal section. ^_^
 
I don't understand why people on SDN can be so freaking insensitive. If you did well on your MCAT/GPA/ or at life, well good for you. No need to step on someone else just to make yourself seem taller.
 
First of all, I relate to what you're going through. I was doing really well on verbal and then my scores started dramatically declining--right before my may 22 mcat. *groan.*

Also, i understand your feelings about it. I think it's important that we, as neurotic, type A premeds, truly learn to separate our self esteem from "performing"; i.e. grades, mcat scores, etc.

some of my fellow pre-meds are brilliant and breeze through mcats and science classes effortlessly. um, not me. i need to study. i failed college chemistry, went to rehab, and then got back up. and, unfortunately, i'm still learning how to fail. and, being a premed, i want to fail perfectly--learn exactly what i need to and never make that mistake again. lol....not so much.

you're a human being, and you have experienced a set back. I have too. "they" always tell you that michael jordan got cut from his HS basketball team. The Beatles played for seven years in crappy nightclubs before getting famous. my point is, if you and I really want to be doctors (and I am absolutely passionate about becoming one), then we have to accept that we will have to accept that mistakes are inevitable, and they don't always feel great. In the end, I know that my mistakes will make me a better doctor, and a happier person.

Life isn't black and white, and it is largely out of your control. Think about it: in the next year, you will make mistakes that will alter the course of your life forever. So will I-so will everyone. To me, that's why life is worth living. Why the hell would I want to know how it all turned out/be able to control it all? no way man. If you're not making mistakes, you're not putting yourself out there. I'd rather have the fear of the unknown and TRY something that scares me rather than the pain and regret of never having the courage to go for what I wanted. the worse your mistake, the more opportunity to learn.

What I can relate to, and what I observe in you, is that you are choosing to beat up on yourself. Ok, please. I can't think of anyone who needs to learn how to self-loath better. not me or you or anyone. The lesson here is to learn how to accept your mistakes for what they are, but still have self-respect and passion for doing what you love. I am not perfect at this (I definitely have days where I feel like the biggest ****** to ever try to be a doctor), but I have improved. The best thing i've ever done is learn humility: I make mistakes, and I'm really smart nonetheless, but I can still do my best to improve. Self respect and humility doesn't mean you stop working hard. It just means you know when it's coming from a place of self respect versus punishment, you know?

Don't waste one more minute on beating yourself up. It's futile. For instance, there's nothing i can do about being "stupid" or "******ed" when I get 6 on a verbal section. I have no control over these things, because they are subjective value judgments. However, I can control whether or not I look at advice other ppl on SDN have for me, whether I do my EK verbal exercises, etc. You are doing a good job of this already by posting on SDN....keep it up.

You have no control over the past or what your scores were or how your study habits could have been better. I can almost gaurantee, however, that if you really look back and look deeply into what your real mistake was, it would involve beating up on yourself instead of taking the opportunity to learn something. I have done that so many times.... I sometimes avoided studying for certain things on the mcat, because I hated how dumb I felt compared to all the brilliant kids who have it come so easily. I think of brilliant ppl like that kinda like natural atheletes, totally attractive ppl, or fabulously wealthy types. it'd be awesome to go through life with such ease. I'd love to take the be one of those kids who studied for two weeks and got a 40 or whatver.... However, we have to work hard at it, and when we do well on it, I will feel extremely proud of my score, because it didn't take simple brilliance. It goes back to me failing chemistry and going to rehab, which took a lot of humility b/c i had to admit i wasn't in control, you know? And I've had to keep re-learning how to be humble and push through physics, even though it was like reading greek.

I see a wonderful opportunity for you to rethink some plans in your life. I know it's disappointing to have your expectations not be met, but you will live. I know it doesn't feel like it right now, but it might be a stepping stone to you getting into your top choice med school, or making a best friend, or whatever. It might just lead to a crappy apartment and more studying, but that's life, and it's awesome. Whatever you do, quit obsessing about your score (i.e. beating yourself up) unless you're gonna do something about it, b/c that's what's in your control. I hope I see a post in a few months about how you shook off this last mcat and you did what was necessary to reach your goal.

I'd say good luck, but it's not luck. It's what you make of it. 🙂


QFT. A beautiful message that I enjoyed reading.
 
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