just finished pre req sciences, having second thoughts

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Hey there.


I'll try to make this short so all of you lovely helpful people don't have much to read. Thanks in advance.

I just finished my degree and all of my sciences. I worked extremely hard, and I can tell you that as of right now, I regret it, and the last ~3 years of my life have left me in a sort of depressed state. I actually felt pretty accomplished after doing so well in my classes, but when they were over it almost felt like I was in the middle of a storm and now that storm is over. I now see the consequences of my actions, and I don't believe it was school that caused them, but the completely unbalanced lifestyle I was living while in school. School and success were the only thing that mattered.

I have a 4.0 sGPA and a 3.93 oGPA, and during that time I lost friends due to prioritizing school over social, I neglected my body and now have so many postural issues from sitting and studying most hours of the day (was previously a university soccer player), and between these two things I have been dealing with something I never ever thought I would encounter: depression.

Let me be honest with my intentions of becoming a dentist. I am a very entrepreneurial person. I like starting little projects and seeing where they go. I produce music, I coach soccer, I help my dad run a water softening business. I do all sorts of random things. When I got into college, I told myself that the only way my entrepreneurial side projects remains fun for me, is if i don't have to depend on them for income. When that happens, it becomes more stress than fun and I no longer want to do it. So, I thought to myself, whats a sort of "day job" that you can do for financial security that you won't hate, but will also give you the ability to financially fund your hobbies, and also give you something to fall back on incase you fail hard, or incase you fall out of love with what ever project you're working on. I've always liked teeth, I've always liked the idea of being in the medical field, so at the time with a young adolescent brain it all made sense to me. What happens if in 10 years you realize you suck as an entrepreneur? I told myself "It's okay! I'll still have an amazing job as a dentist."

Fast forward to now. I've been depressed for maybe ~5 months, ever since I finished my last science class, and I've been on and off about is dentistry for me, questioning not only dentistry but so many of my life choices (I have an amazing wife I married at 20 and she's been so unbelievably supportive, works full time along with getting a masters, I question things with her even though deep down I know she's beyond amazing). Maybe this is just a negative by product of the depression, if any of you have suffered depression I'm sure you know that sometimes you think things and believe things that don't make sense. You fail to see the larger picture, you fail to live outside of the current moment your in, and that current moment is usually clouded by so many negative feelings. Basically I feel like I don't know enough about the life as a dentist to really make an informed decision. So, I'm going to say what I think I want out of life at this point, and the possible concerns I have about fully committing to dentistry, and hear the feedback from people who've gone though this process.

Right now, what I think I want is something similar to what I originally wanted. I want a job that can provide me with enough stability to fund my random side projects, a job where scheduling and work hours can get to a point where they're very flexible, and finally a job that won't cripple me physically (after seeing what sitting in a chair all day can do to you, I worry about what tinkering with small teeth all day may do to my arm in the long run). I don't know if dentistry is the answer, hell I don't know if there is an answer maybe I'm asking for too much.

Here are my concerns with dentistry. These are the things that loom in my head and cause me to be very skeptical about my current career path. I'm asking this here because I've been trolling these forums for years now, and there are so many people who have gone though this path, and my more mature side has really learned to trust people who came before me, and to hold their opinion in very high regards.

1) For those of you that are in/have graduated from dental school, how do you feel about the 4 years you've given to your career? When I first started this, being fresh out of high school, time was not a factor for me. Having matured I now see how important time is. I don't want dental school to take up every hour of my day for 4 years.

2) Adding onto the end of that last question, my goal used to be to become an orthodontist. I was so self-conscious of my teeth for so long and just recently got braces at 23 years old. If I can help people rid themselves of that awful feeling of not wanting to smile, I would love that. However, after gunning for the top of my class in undergrad, let alone dental school, I just don't know if it's worth it for me anymore. If I re-evaluated what I want from dental school, say to merely pass and become a general dentist, is it possible to do that without completely devoting myself to school? If I treated dental school like my full time job, worked really hard 8-5 with maybe an hour of studying a day outside of school, could I pass with that type of commitment alone?

3) Do you dentists out there view this profession as a physically demanding one? I'm not going to lie, I'm in a PTSD-esque mindset right now over my physical health. I recently got insurance after not being able to afford it, and multiple physical therapists are telling me I've really messed up my posture. It's fixable, but it will take a year or so of therapy and some lifestyle changes. I'm wondering if being a dentist would contradict those lifestyle changes they're referring to.

4) Finally, and I think this is the biggest one for me, how many of you knew for a fact 100% going into dental school this is what you wanted. At times I think dentistry is such a solid profession for me for so many reasons, but then for whatever reason I think of so many reasons why its not the path for me. You're in an office all day, you're so reliant on your physical health (what happens if I break my arm, have back pain from working on patients all day, or any other type of physical problem). Is common for things like carpel tunnel or physical pains to cut a dentists career short? After investing so much time and money into something, and to have it cut short would really suck. Maybe its the depression making my hyper analyze every possible negative outcome. I never used to think of my career choice in this light, but after discovering how not-invincible I truly am, aka growing up, these things constantly nag me. Did any of you have thoughts like this going in? If so, how did you overcome that negativity?


Alright, I fear if already typed way to much. I'm sorry for that. I just wanted to finally share what I've been feeling for a while with a community who has been though this process, and knows what it entails. Any insight you may have will be so highly appreciated. I have been living in a state of should I or shouldn't I for long enough now, and its time I stop trying to answer these questions by myself and turn to people who know far more than I.



Thank you so much,

Ryan

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this ain't short.
 
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You have issues that have little to nothing to do with dental school/dentistry.
"One hour of studying a day outside of school." Really? Time for an extended sabbatical.
 
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Sorry man, tried giving relevant information. I'll edit it down. Thanks for the head up.
 
You have issues that have little to nothing to do with dental school/dentistry.
"One hour of studying a day outside of school." Really?

It was just a question, I don't know what the workload is like to pass, and I threw out a number. A better question maybe would have been what the typical out-of-class commitment for those looking to pass and not specialize.

I figured between all the hours in school learning, plus 7 hours a week might put me in that category, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Sorry.
 
Well you said to keep it short and tbh, it ain't short, but I read it.

Everyone here has been through undergrad and at some point during that time, I'm convinced they would think "why the hell I'm studying for hundreds of hours, poor posture, while my friends are having such good time.."
And you sir, should be able to answer that question. If your answer is somewhere along the line of oh because it wouls get me to dental school, because it's all worth it in the end bla bla, then I'll say gopher it (see what I did there :beaver:)

But if you have some concerns, and you wanna find a short route through dental school, maybe that's not it man. Maybe you should just find a different job that provide financial stability and make a home.

Speaking of depression, Im dealing with it atm. I recently found out that I have troubling with my vision, my visual field. But dentistry is my dream, and dreading over it doesnt get me into dental school.
So...

Your choice ;)
 
I always laugh inside when someone says this as one of the reasons they want to go into dentistry. Does anyone actually believe that?

I find it believable. My mom had horrible teeth problems from not taking care of them when she was little. Every sunday she sat myself and my 5 siblings down to look at our teeth, and use what knowledge she had to make sure they were staying as healthy as possible. I would floss my younger siblings, scrape plaque, do my best to point out what I thought was a cavity. Obviously I have no idea what I was doing and you may even arguing this did no good seeing as how none of us were dentists, but I still really enjoyed it. Was one of those weird family bonding things that we still joke about today.
 
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Well you said to keep it short and tbh, it ain't short, but I read it.

Everyone here has been through undergrad and at some point during that time, I'm convinced they would think "why the hell I'm studying for hundreds of hours, poor posture, while my friends are having such good time.."
And you sir, should be able to answer that question. If your answer is somewhere along the line of oh because it wouls get me to dental school, because it's all worth it in the end bla bla, then I'll say gopher it (see what I did there :beaver:)

But if you have some concerns, and you wanna find a short route through dental school, maybe that's not it man. Maybe you should just find a different job that provide financial stability and make a home.

Speaking of depression, Im dealing with it atm. I recently found out that I have troubling with my vision, my visual field. But dentistry is my dream, and dreading over it doesnt get me into dental school.
So...

Your choice ;)

Thank you, that is the type of insight I was looking for. I do not want to find a short route necessarily, I more so was interested in what the life of a student just aiming to get though the program looked like. Until now, it was not even an option. The only option was to place high and do orthodontics. I had accepted that work load, but I now wonder what the workload looks like for the student that is content with just getting though.

I've never felt with depression before. It's been the most difficult part of my life thus far, and you seem to be managing it well. I wish you the best in your pursuit of your dream, and with that attitude it will happen. Thank you again for your response.
 
I always laugh inside when someone says this as one of the reasons they want to go into dentistry. Does anyone actually believe that?
damn bro troll frank hard enough to be on probationary status? i respect uuuu
 
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I always laugh inside when someone says this as one of the reasons they want to go into dentistry. Does anyone actually believe that?
That would be a really bad answer on dental school interview. For anyone who has interest in evolutionary biology or paleontology, they should still not mention on the interview that teeth is interesting unless they were guided into saying something relavant.
 
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I always laugh inside when someone says this as one of the reasons they want to go into dentistry. Does anyone actually believe that?

@PlasmaMembrane is right OP. I've heard this before from people and I have no idea why someone would say they like teeth. Unless you have some sort of weird fetish for teeth, then you are lying. It's like saying, I like fingers so I would like to be a hand surgeon. You're doing yourself a favor by coming on SDN and saying it here, and getting corrected, as opposed to actually saying this in an interview.
 
I'm sorry you're going through a hard time. Everyone has periods of sadness in life and uncertainty about their career choices (I know I have) but you don't have to live in a permanent state of depression. Furthermore, you need to be able to think realistically and clearly about your life choices, and that's hard to do if your mental state is not in its best form. I would look into seeing a psychologist or counselor, even if it's just a few times. It can do wonders for your overall mental state and make you better prepared to tackle your uncertainties with your career path (which are normal, by the way). I had a friend who went through something similar and talking about it with a counselor has made all the difference for her.

I'm not a dentist, but my mother has been one for many decades. She would absolutely consider it a physically demanding profession, especially in regards to the spine. She also wouldn't discourage anyone from going into it, but you will have to decide whether or not that is something you want to deal with.

I wish you the best.
 
You're burnt out. You need to take a step back, appreciate the small things, and find some inspiration.

After I graduated from college I started to volunteer at a dental clinic and the experience totally reinvigorated my desire to become a dentist. Taking on 4 more years of school is going to be rough but it's all worth it in the end. You're 23.. If you become a specialist by the time you're 35 you can have a great 30+ career until you're 65+ years old.

You're in a great spot. You don't have to worry about your GPA (a luxury very few people get). Shadow and volunteer some more and see if you can catch some wind in your sails again.

Keep pushing and striving for greatness, your future self will appreciate it.
 
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Have you done any dental shadowing yet? It will give you a good idea if dentistry is right for you. I know a dentist who practiced for 10 years before she chose to specialize in oral and maxillofacial pathology because sitting down all day has ruined her posture and she developed carpal tunnel. My dentist growing up broke his wrist from snowboarding and was out of work for a while. If you decide to pursue dentistry, you need to consider what other options are available if you're physically unfit to treat patients.
 
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