Just wondering

[tarcan]

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hi
i'm not from U.S but i'm just wondering how u guys enter to a vet faculty ? in my country there are 2 big criterions. one is your high school grades and the other is the test u have to take at the end of the high school. if u r good at high school and u get a good point at the test then u can start your vet education.
so i'm just wondering how is this system work in U.S or Canada or any other European countries ? i've just heard that in U.S there is this center called ETS and this test called "SAT" that ETS makes. so i guess it's pretty much same?? but that's just i've heard i don't know exactly . so if anyone tells me about this system that'll be nice.

 

[silverelf]

hah, its completely different here. You can't enter veterinary school directly from high school, you have to complete 4 years of an unrelated undergraduate degree (either BA or BS) and THEN you are eligible to apply to a veterinary program and obtain your DVM. Best to stay in the UK and save your money!!

 

[sofficat]

silverelf is partly right. you cannot go to vet school directly from high school, but you don't have to get a 4 year college degree to get into vet school. As long as you complete your pre requisites and take the GRE (similar to the SAT) you can apply. Most people get their BA or BS in 4 years to apply, but technically you can just get your prereqs and apply.

where are you from?

 

[tarcan]

thanks i'm kind of from Ireland ;=) . btw which BA or BS did u get ?

 

[silverelf]

silverelf is partly right. you cannot go to vet school directly from high school, but you don't have to get a 4 year college degree to get into vet school. As long as you complete your pre requisites and take the GRE (similar to the SAT) you can apply. Most people get their BA or BS in 4 years to apply, but technically you can just get your prereqs and apply.

where are you from?

Isn't it true though that very VERY few are accepted without an undergrad degree? And of the few, its those that are in an accelerated program (like at cornell where you do 3 years of undergrad at CU, and then start vet school and graduate undergrad after your first year of the DVM program). I've never heard of anyone just taking the pre-reqs and getting in without a degree. I guess it could be done, but I don't know of any vet school that would accept a candidate on so little undergraduate schooling

and to answer tarcan's question i got my BS in animal science, but it really can be anything as long as you fit in the pre-reqs

 

[bakaduin]

Isn't it true though that very VERY few are accepted without an undergrad degree? And of the few, its those that are in an accelerated program (like at cornell where you do 3 years of undergrad at CU, and then start vet school and graduate undergrad after your first year of the DVM program). I've never heard of anyone just taking the pre-reqs and getting in without a degree. I guess it could be done, but I don't know of any vet school that would accept a candidate on so little undergraduate schooling

and to answer tarcan's question i got my BS in animal science, but it really can be anything as long as you fit in the pre-reqs

UF excepts 2-3 students a year who have just completed pre-reqs and not gotten a degree so it can happen.

 

[sofficat]

You can definitely get into vet school with 'just' the prereqs. I know of vet students and current docs who 'just' did the prereqs.

personally i got a BS in biology.

i liked the idea of getting a degree b/c it kinda acts as a backup in case it takes a while to get into vet school.

how long is the vet program in ireland? when you start right out of high school do you enter the program and do all the basic bio stuff? does it take a few years before you start the 'real' vet school stuff?

 

[tarcan]

u know what just GET YOURSELF HIGH ( The Chemical Brothers rullaz ! )

 

[BlueSky01]

Also tarcan, in answer to your question about ETS, ETS is a non-profit organization that develops and administers a variety of standardized assessment tests. Other than being regulated, it is not associated with the government.

The SAT is one of their standardized tests that is used by many universities as part of their undergraduate admissions process. Other standardized tests are typically used for graduate school programs. The GRE which is developed and administered by ETS is one such test that many graduate schools look at as part of the admissions process.

As for vet school admissions, the entire process is highly competitive in the US. One of the reasons it is so competitive is the limited number of vet schools, and the limited number of spots in those schools. As a result, the veterinary schools can be highly selective.

They all use a slightly different formula to determine who gets admitted, but in general grades and standardized test scores are considered as part of the first screening criteria (and are therefore very important). Depth and breadth of experience with animals are also very important. Again though, each program is different and has slightly different characteristics that they are interested in.

Don't worry if this sounds confusing... it is confusing! (I think it's another one of the screening tools!) 🙂

 

[tarcan]

You can definitely get into vet school with 'just' the prereqs. I know of vet students and current docs who 'just' did the prereqs.

personally i got a BS in biology.

i liked the idea of getting a degree b/c it kinda acts as a backup in case it takes a while to get into vet school.

how long is the vet program in ireland? when you start right out of high school do you enter the program and do all the basic bio stuff? does it take a few years before you start the 'real' vet school stuff?

first its Ireland not ireland ! and i'm not from Ireland exactly i said i'm kind of from Ireland . so in my country after u graduated from high school and started vet education : u get like 26-28 credits per semester in school and u get anatomy , histology , biochems .. etc ( including basic bio stuff and the "real" vet stuff starts with the 1st semester ) during these semester. it's a 5 year programme.so u get 10 semesters to cover all the topics.

 

[cyrille104]

u know what just GET YOURSELF HIGH ( The Chemical Brothers rullaz ! )

...

 

[nyanko]

first its Ireland not ireland ! and i'm not from Ireland exactly i said i'm kind of from Ireland . so in my country after u graduated from high school and started vet education : u get like 26-28 credits per semester in school and u get anatomy , histology , biochems .. etc ( including basic bio stuff and the "real" vet stuff starts with the 1st semester ) during these semester. it's a 5 year programme.so u get 10 semesters to cover all the topics.

it's "you" not "u"

YOU would do well not to correct people when YOUR posts look like they were written by a second grader.

 

[sofficat]

😀









let's be nice 😉

 

[QTkitty]

first its Ireland not ireland ! and i'm not from Ireland exactly i said i'm kind of from Ireland . so in my country after u graduated from high school and started vet education : u get like 26-28 credits per semester in school and u get anatomy , histology , biochems .. etc ( including basic bio stuff and the "real" vet stuff starts with the 1st semester ) during these semester. it's a 5 year programme.so u get 10 semesters to cover all the topics.

Ok, so in the states you're supposed to at least satisfy the pre-requisites at an undergraduate college prior to applying to a veterinary program (graduate). Our high school is very different from yours (easier? Tests such as A-Level don't even exist here...) so the system for getting into a graduate university is different. If I'm not mistaken, those in the US who decide to apply to UK schools can petition to drop one of the years based on sufficiently completing certain courses. So over all if you were to take the US route it is going to take longer but you will be equipped to apply to both US and UK schools, whereas if you simply satisfy the UK pre-requisites you can only apply to UK schools (and isn't there a limit on the number of schools and number of times you can apply?). I really hope that made sense and is of some assistance to you. GOOD LUCK!!!

 

[nyanko]

let's be nice 😉

Sadly that was the nicer version. 😉

 

[cyrille104]

it's "you" not "u"

YOU would do well not to correct people when YOUR posts look like they were written by a second grader.

 

[nyanko]

It would be more like "don't feed the mentally challenged" but yeah, point taken.

 

[tarcan]

yeah i know DNA is so pretty. and it's so shiny that all the little girls love it .

it's "you" not "u"

YOU would do well not to correct people when YOUR posts look like they were written by a second grader.

 

[ratbandit]

"Number of accepted students with bachelor degrees 32
Number of accepted students with no degrees 42"

This is some info from Missouri's website

 

[tarcan]

"Number of accepted students with bachelor degrees 32
Number of accepted students with no degrees 42"

This is some info from Missouri's website

so let's assume that i wanna go to Missouri , college of Veterinary medicine. what do i have to do be one of those lucky 42 people ? i should have a high school diploma with a good degree and i should have to take SAT or GRE right ?

 

[rexosaurus]

http://www.aavmc.org/vmcas/college_requirement.htm

If you go to the website above and click on "University of Missourri" it will tell you all of the specific requirements to get in. As with all the other schools listed on that page. It may also do you some good just to navigate the aavmc website a bit to get a feel for what American vet schools (and a couple international schools) are like, what they require, how intense/competitive they are, statistics, etc. It is really helpful, and I'm sure I speak for many of us when I say thats what I did when I first started researching vet school. And, yes, they all require the GRE (most common) and may also accept the MCAT (more rare). I think the SAT is not something they look at, as many people begin at a community college and transfer to a university without taking the SAT (although I could be wrong about this). Hope this helps!

 

[AuburnPreVet]

take SAT or GRE right ?

The SAT and GRE are not equivalent. The SAT is used to get into undergrad (college). The GRE is a similiar test but used to get into graduate/professional school (in this case, vet school). Even if you are going to get into vet school without an undergraduate degree --- you will still need to take all of the pre-req college courses, take the GRE, etc. Plenty of people get in without college degrees - but you'll want to have a near perfect academic record in addition to everything else.

Also, keep in mind that as an international student -- you're not going to be considered "in-state" at any school -- so, the standards are going to be set even higher for you...making getting in without a degree more difficult, IMO.

 

[tarcan]

yeah thank u all . especially with the aavcm site. there is everything that i wanted to know . thanks again :=)

 

[snow15]

"Number of accepted students with bachelor degrees 32
Number of accepted students with no degrees 42"

This is some info from Missouri's website

Those numbers are a little misleading. A lot of those accepted have not finished their degree by the time they are accepted, but will finish before they begin veterinary school.

From MSU's website
selected students with more than 2 years of college work- 126
selected students with only 2 years of course work - 10
(seems to be more indicative of completed degree)

for class of 2009
admitted with bachelors - 87
admitted with no degree - 17
masters - 3

 

[ratbandit]

Those numbers are a little misleading. A lot of those accepted have not finished their degree by the time they are accepted, but will finish before they begin veterinary school.

Yeah that makes sense.

 

[ReinaDeLuz]

UF excepts 2-3 students a year who have just completed pre-reqs and not gotten a degree so it can happen.

that's not true, class of 2010 only has one person that didn't get a degree (same for class of 2009 and 2007) and the class of 2008 doesn't have *any* people that didn't get a degree. its actually a pretty rare thing, with maybe one person a year (if that). From my own personal experience, the few (three) people I know who have attempted to apply without having finished their bachelors were all told that they were seen as a little too immature, and to try again next year.