KCUMB vs. CUSOM (CampbellSOM)

[doctorforJESUS]

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I like how CUSOM has super cool, brand-new facilities, but it is in a lonely, rural place. It's also a brand-new school, so there are no current board pass rates or scores and no residency matches since their first-class started this year. KCUMB is an established university and has a great reputation, but the school itself is in a pretty bad part of town. Which would you choose? Thanks for all the input! 🙂

 

[Elevencents]

Of course the facilities are nice, they've never been used. And what do facilities really matter in the grand scheme of things?

KCUMB, easy.

 

[Roxas]

I've never seen Campbell, but based on the fact that one is new and one is well established, that should help you decide right there. Plus the area around KCUMB isn't THAT bad...

 

[stlrams22]

I've never seen Campbell, but based on the fact that one is new and one is well established, that should help you decide right there. Plus the area around KCUMB isn't THAT bad...

Agree

Brand new facilities vs. established reputable school....super easy decision. KCUMB

I'm sure the "new" feel will wear off and not be noticed after the first few days.

 

[Postictal Raiden]

I'm now seriously wondering if these new schools are so good that people are comparing them to ones that are a century older.

My opinion: KCUMB >>>>>>> CUSOM

 

[GopherMD]

easily KCUMB

 

[HotHamH2O]

Although I agree with established program being better than shiny new toys but I think CUSOM has more to offer than just nice facilities. Anyone who has interviewed there knows about the reputation and success of their other graduate programs (their law school is one of the best in the country). Its also located in one the biggest medical research area in the country and has clinical and residency guaranteed contracts in that area. What matters to me when choosing a school is how well they will prepare for my steps so that I can get a great residency where you actually learn how to become a doctor. With CUSOM reputation and success of other programs and connections in the research triangle, I think it complicates an answer to this question a bit.

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[BCAA]

Although I agree with established program being better than shiny new toys but I think CUSOM has more to offer than just nice facilities. Anyone who has interviewed there knows about the reputation and success of their other graduate programs (their law school is one of the best in the country). Its also located in one the biggest medical research area in the country and has clinical and residency guaranteed contracts in that area. What matters to me when choosing a school is how well they will prepare for my steps so that I can get a great residency where you actually learn how to become a doctor. With CUSOM reputation and success of other programs and connections in the research triangle, I think it complicates an answer to this question a bit.

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Their law school is ranked 126? That is far from being one of the best in the country, and for law school, ranking is very important.

 

[Jazzy G]

If you are asking which school is more reputable and has a successful history it is obviously the one school out of the two that has a medical history. If however, you have many other factors that are important to you when it comes to choosing where to receive your medical training it gets more complicated. I personally have decided to attend CUSOM over KCUMB. To me the location near family, smaller class sizes, cost of living, and general feel as to where I personally will best succeed outweighed the more established KCUMB.

 

[Ukdavis23]

I like how CUSOM has super cool, brand-new facilities, but it is in a lonely, rural place. It's also a brand-new school, so there are no current board pass rates or scores and no residency matches since their first-class started this year. KCUMB is an established university and has a great reputation, but the school itself is in a pretty bad part of town. Which would you choose? Thanks for all the input! 🙂

Hey man, I'm stuck trying to make the same choice as you. Tough one because as a new school, Campbell has great facilities, great opportunities and they're going to be committed to their students because they're trying to set a strong foundation. My main concerns is if attending CUSOM will most likely mean you'll be doing primary care because its new, their mission is for rural physicians in NC and I've seen things on here about a smaller focus on USMLE prep. I am definitely interested in primary care but I'd like to have options though. Can anyone else on here speak to this?

 

[Lost Vagus]

There is pretty much no benefit at all going to a school that is only 1 year old and hasn't graduated anyone yet. Unless you are from NC and want to stay close to home, this should be a terribly easy decision.

 

[cliquesh]

There is pretty much no benefit at all going to a school that is only 1 year old and hasn't graduated anyone yet. Unless you are from NC and want to stay close to home, this should be a terribly easy decision.

I agree

 

[Ukdavis23]

I agree

Do you know if CUSOM is accredited? If it doesn't receive full accreditation by 2018 would that hurt you after med school?

 

[cliquesh]

Do you know if CUSOM is accredited? If it doesn't receive full accreditation by 2018 would that hurt you after med school?

It isnt accredited. I'm sure it would hurt you badly if the school did not become accredited, but, in my opinion, I do not think that's a legitimate concern. More realistic concerns about attending a new school are a poor quality clinical education and a negative perception from residency program directors. I'm not saying those things are going to happen, but I think they are more realistic concerns than the school not becoming accredited.

I thought I wanted to do primary care before I started, but after getting exposed to it, there is no amount of money that would make me go into family med or general internal medicine. Try to do everything you can to keep as many options open as possible.

 

[Ukdavis23]

It isnt accredited. I'm sure it would hurt you badly if the school did not become accredited, but, in my opinion, I do not think that's a legitimate concern. More realistic concerns about attending a new school are a poor quality clinical education and a negative perception from residency program directors. I'm not saying those things are going to happen, but I think they are more realistic concerns than the school not becoming accredited.

Thanks for the info. The rotation opportunities at Campbell look very promising and the faculty is impressive. If these opportunities were advertised at the interview, it is likely that they will happen in your opinion? Additionally, if a job opportunity is provided after graduation with an HPSP scholarship, would the establishment of the med school itself not be as important of a concern for job opportunity afterwards as the residency you attend and the job experiences if you're looking into starting a practice several years after graduation?

 

[cliquesh]

Thanks for the info. The rotation opportunities at Campbell look very promising and the faculty is impressive. If these opportunities were advertised at the interview, it is likely that they will happen in your opinion? Additionally, if a job opportunity is provided after graduation with an HPSP scholarship, would the establishment of the med school itself not be as important of a concern for job opportunity afterwards as the residency you attend and the job experiences when looking into starting a practice?

Who knows. Campbell may be telling you the truth or maybe they are lying or maybe they are being honest with you, but in three years from now, they may loose their affiliation with the hospitals/opportunities you are excited about. I know someone who was in the first class at touro-ny and, according to him, he felt lied to about the opportunities promised to him during his interview. With that said, despite having few opportunities, he ended up doing very well, and matched his top choice speciality at a top 15 acgme program.

I don't really understand your second question. I do not know much about post-graduate HPSP opportunities. I know that pre-grad HPSP scholarships do not care where you go to school.
Employeers in medicine are pretty diverse. Some only care about your board certification. Some care about where you did your residency or fellowship. Some care about everything including med school. If you start your own practice, it doesn't really matter where you went to school, since you're going to be the boss. At any rate, starting a private practice will probably be impossible by the time you finish your residency/fellowship.

 

[Ukdavis23]

Who knows. Campbell may be telling you the truth or maybe they are lying or maybe they are being honest with you, but in three years from now, they may loose their affiliation with the hospitals/opportunities you are excited about. I know someone who was in the first class at touro-ny and, according to him, he felt lied to about the opportunities promised to him during his interview. With that said, despite having few opportunities, he ended up doing very well, and matched his top choice speciality at a top 15 acgme program.

I don't really understand your second question. I do not know much about post-graduate HPSP opportunities. I know that pre-grad HPSP scholarships do not care where you go to school.
Employeers in medicine are pretty diverse. Some only care about your board certification. Some care about where you did your residency or fellowship. Some care about everything including med school. If you start your own practice, it doesn't really matter where you went to school, since you're going to be the boss. At any rate, starting a private practice will probably be impossible by the time you finish your residency/fellowship.

Appreciate it. Essentially then, if everything goes well at CUSOM according to what was advertised, then really you can get the same quality as KCUMB and not be short of the opportunities post med school graduation? Since I have friends in NC though I'm not from there, just trying to see if the potential opportunities and support network at CUSOM would be a valid reason to pick them over a more conservative pick with KCUMB?

 

[NontradCA]

KCUMB

 

[cliquesh]

Appreciate it. Essentially then, if everything goes well at CUSOM according to what was advertised, then really you can get the same quality as KCUMB and not be short of the opportunities post med school graduation? Since I have friends in NC though I'm not from there, just trying to see if the potential opportunities and support network at CUSOM would be a valid reason to pick them over a more conservative pick with KCUMB?

If all goes well, you may have the same quality of education, but your post graduate opportunities, particularly in the aoa surgical sub-specialities, will likely be less at CUSOM compared to KCUMB. KCUMB has historically done well placing people into the surgical sub-specialities.

KCUMB will, without a doubt, provide you with more post graduate opportunities. How much more? I cannot honestly tell you. Is it enough to significantly impact your future? I cannot tell you that either. I sincerely believe you will have more opportunities coming from KCUMB than CUSOM, though.

If your friends in NC are 30mins or more away from CUSOM, youll probably never see them. You will be too busy. Youll also make new friends at which ever school you attend.

If you know you want to do family medicine, like 100% certain, go whereever you want. If not, I would strongly encourage you to attend KCUMB.

Also, I should point out that the person I know who was successful at touro-ny, was exceptional. They had a 36 or 38 on the mcat, but a horrible gpa. They were not average.

 

[Ukdavis23]

If all goes well, you may have the same quality of education, but your post graduate opportunities, particularly in the aoa surgical sub-specialities, will likely be less at CUSOM compared to KCUMB. KCUMB has historically done well placing people into the surgical sub-specialities.

KCUMB will, without a doubt, provide you with more post graduate opportunities. How much more? I cannot honestly tell you. Is it enough to significantly impact your future? I cannot tell you that either. I sincerely believe you will have more opportunities coming from KCUMB than CUSOM, though.

If your friends in NC are 30mins or more away from CUSOM, youll probably never see them. You will be too busy. Youll also make new friends at which ever school you attend.

If you know you want to do family medicine, like 100% certain, go whereever you want. If not, I would strongly encourage you to attend KCUMB.

Also, I should point out that the person I know who was successful at touro-ny, was exceptional. They had a 36 or 38 on the mcat, but a horrible gpa. They were not average.

Thanks a lot for the info, definitely a lot of good points to consider, thanks for taking the time to help out with this