Kerry's impact on MDs

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Havelock said:
Typical liberal rhetoric, always trying to explain a bad decision by contorting words and sentences. In fact we all know that Mr. Kerry voted for going to war against Iraq the second time while voting no to the first Iraqi war. No one was twisting his arm, if he had any balls he would have stood up and voted no to the second Iraqi war. Instead he showed his liberal inconsistent voting pattern. He is definitely not fit to run our country when he cant make up his own mind on what to do and also not have the integrity to stand up for what he thinks is right.

"Kerry and Edwards, when you have two guys who are this full of ****, you definitely need two Johns."

Typical conservative rhetoric, always trying to slam thoughtful people by contorting words and sentences, by oversimplifying the complex, and complicating the simple. I've got your playbook right here. What we all know is that conservatives serve an agenda of personal greed by misdirecting the public with fear, and telling great big juicy stinking lies. President Bush, in essence, is neither a Republican, nor a Democrat, conservative, or liberal. He's just a thief and a liar.
 
powermd said:
Typical conservative rhetoric, always trying to slam thoughtful people by contorting words and sentences, by oversimplifying the complex, and complicating the simple. I've got your playbook right here. What we all know is that conservatives serve an agenda of personal greed by misdirecting the public with fear, and telling great big juicy stinking lies. President Bush, in essence, is neither a Republican, nor a Democrat, conservative, or liberal. He's just a thief and a liar.
Clueless
 
[QUOTE]QUOTE=endodoc]Very well put, and I agree with you 100%. How can a midlevel even think of treating more than the typical common cold, and even that is a reach. [/QUOTE]


I just started reading these forums for some information about anesthesia and was wondering if this is the common thought of MD's towards midlevels. I am 40 y/o and wished I had tried for medical school when I was younger but life's unexpectancies crept up and here I am with excitement about going probably as far as one can go(PA school) without being a MD all because I wanted to help overworked MD's take care of underserved patients. Now I am finding out that you guys (who I thought created PA's in the first place even had them trained along a similar scope as you) seem to hate or think that lowly of them. Now I can see it with nursing since it seems they are trying to bite the hand that feeds them but I wasn't aware that PA's were along the same lines. If that is the case then I might as well go to nursing school were I will be taught "Nursing stands alone" and then not have to answer to medicine. I have always wanted to do anesthesia in some way, I thought it was so cool even when others would ask why would you want to do that but being a BS RRT it seemed they were close in some respects. I guess I don't really want to work in a profession where I want to work with the Docs and they don't care one hoot about me. I know this does not mean anything to you guys but there are actually some of us who actually like the fact that we would be working under you and along side of you especially in a learning capacity. Hope not all of you are like this.
 
powermd said:
Very disingenouous.
This is why you can't trust conservatives in these forums. They are shamelessly intellectually dishonest. Endodoc, and the author of this article, it seems, intentionally misinterpreted this statement from Kerry just to make him look bad. ALWAYS look up the 'source' from which these people draw their erroneous conclusions. Here is the relevant quote that the whole article is based on:

"Taking up a challenge from President Bush, whom he will face in the Nov. 2 election, the Massachusetts senator said: "I'll answer it directly. Yes, I would have voted for the authority. I believe it is the right authority for a president to have but I would have used that authority effectively."

Kerry said he would vote for "the authority." The quote is out of context, so we can only guess what he meant by "authority". I think it's reasonable to assume he meant "power to choose to go to war." Kerry believes the president should have had that power, period. This quote does not say Kerry would have gone to war if he had that power, or that voting for "the authority" is the same thing as voting to go to war. Anyone who knows even a little about thoughtful legislators like Kerry know they will vote to defend a principle, even if it supports actions that legislator would otherwise stand against. The principle here is that the president, whoever he/she is, and whatever his/her agenda, ought to have the authority to do whatever action was in question here. I assume they're talking about the war, but again this quote was taken of context. The next thing Kerry said was that he would use "the authority" "effectively." That could be interpreted any way you want, so it is unreasonable to automatically assume he supported President Bush's actions. In fact, it is implied by his use of the word "effectively," that President Bush's actions were "ineffective," thus Kerry disapproves of Bush's use of "the authority." One might reasonably interpret that to mean he disapproves of Bush's handling of the war, and would have handled it differently, if there were a war at all.


How can you decided what he means? All i did was check many sources regarding his quote, and they all said the same thing. FYI: All sources were middle of the road. I am Consver. Rep, although I check before I write.

Have you watched what Kerry said when he got home from the war? "I burned building's, killed peple, and commited Atrocities." Then in 2004, kerry is now saying, I never commited Atrocities and would never do that." So what do you believe? He is bulls...... all of the Amer. people. If he was involved in war time Atrocities, lets face the fact and find what he really did.
 
I, for one, will welcome every trial lawyer to my practice, with a baseball bat in hand. - Singuanabo


Does that include the Med-Mal defense attorneys and the ones that are going after Enron, Tobacco compaines, etc? As physicians and future physicians, it's, in my opinion, ridiculous to make broad generalizations about lawyers and trial lawyers in general. Are there scum suckers out there? Absolutely. Are they the majority? Nope. Same thing goes for doctors as well. And if a family member of yours was blatently malpracticed against, I would hope that you would seek justice against that physician/lawyer/whoever.

Just my $.03.
 
endodoc said:
How can you decided what he means?

The same way you did. Interpretation of language. Except mine was rational.

All i did was check many sources regarding his quote, and they all said the same thing. FYI: All sources were middle of the road. I am Consver. Rep, although I check before I write.

If they all said the same thing, they were all wrong, unless they included additional quotations that reveal context not apparent in the article you posted a link to. Since I don't make my living trying to find ways to poke holes in the Kerry campaign, I only had time to read the article you posted. Please post the sources that will convince me that what Kerry really meant in that quotation was that he agreed with President Bush's decision to go to war.
 
powermd said:
The same way you did. Interpretation of language. Except mine was rational.



If they all said the same thing, they were all wrong, unless they included additional quotations that reveal context not apparent in the article you posted a link to. Since I don't make my living trying to find ways to poke holes in the Kerry campaign, I only had time to read the article you posted. Please post the sources that will convince me that what Kerry really meant in that quotation was that he agreed with President Bush's decision to go to war.


With all do respect, I do not have time to go back though my links. We have to agree to disagree. We all have our rights and our way of thouhgts.

Bush people see their way, and kerry people see it their way. I can say, everytime I see anyone from the kerry party on TV, they are always looking to cover their tracks.

How can you fight what kerry himself said. What he said is, what he said. Thats like you saying something, and your buddy telling the news, mr. or mrs. so and so really didnt mean it like that. I sure as hell do not want a person like that running the country. He dosn't know what he stands for, or should I say, he stands for things that are convenient for him at any given time.



This is only my thought.....
 
endodoc said:
With all do respect, I do not have time to go back though my links. We have to agree to disagree. We all have our rights and our way of thouhgts.

Bush people see their way, and kerry people see it their way. I can say, everytime I see anyone from the kerry party on TV, they are always looking to cover their tracks.

How can you fight what kerry himself said. What he said is, what he said. Thats like you saying something, and your buddy telling the news, mr. or mrs. so and so really didnt mean it like that. I sure as hell do not want a person like that running the country. He dosn't know what he stands for, or should I say, he stands for things that are convenient for him at any given time.

This is only my thought.....


I think if we keep arguing, people will have trouble telling us apart.

Ciao!
 
I will be voting for President Bush even though I don't agree with everything the Bush Administration has done. I worked on Capitol Hill as an aide to a US senator for a few years before med school. I have met John Kerry and spoken with him a few times on various issues. I also had the opportunity to meet then President Bush (senior) and speak with him. Here are some differences between the two.

President Bush was very down to earth when I spoke with him. He wanted to know where I was from and about my family. He also wanted to talk about my interests besides politics. As a future physician, we discussed health care issues. I had a strong sense and confirmation from him that doctors would be protected under his watch. His son's policies are not much different from his and I still have the strong sense that we will be protected under his Presidency.

When I spoke with John Kerry, it was very non-personal. His jadedness left a strong impression on me. I got the impression that he was one of those millionaire Democrats that says to the middle and lower income classes "I feel and understand your pain", yet he has been out of mainstream society for a long time. He does not know what it is like to go to the store to buy a gallon of milk or fill his car up with gas. He was very cold, very stoic. Even then, face to face, I could not get a hold of his position on several important issues. Especially health care. There is a term used on the Hill--waffle--which means you side-step a specific and possibly damaging direct answer the best you can while giving the impression that you know alot about it and are deeply involved. He did this consistently. Even after discussing issues with him and his aides, I did not know how he stands on things, very noncommittal.

Look back to how he voted on the Hillary Clinton healthcare package. I was there when it began and when it was defeated. It was interesting to hear her staff say afterwards that they did not really know what they were doing. It was socialized medicine to say the least.

I hope that that as anesthesiologists you all plan on being politically active during your careers. Don't depend on the "other guy" to do it for you. Physicians of all fields need to coalesce and make a stand for our futures. If you don't, you will probably not be satisfied with the results.
 
Everyone should pay close attention to what was already stated in this forum by a Gulf War vet:


"It must not have been in 1983 when DONALD RUMSFELD was warmly shaking his hand...that meeting lead to the Reagan government delivering all kinds of military aid to saddam.

Interesting people want to bring up saddam supporting anti-Israeli terrorists, because we were supporting him at the same time. "

By supporting a terrorist, didn't that make us terrorists? Obviously these issues are complex, and can only be defined in hindsight.

Please understand that not only are the issues complex, but the media is one hell of a filter; it's tough to ***OBJECTIVELY know anything about the character of these candidates...
 
....the only thing that can be known for sure...

whoever gets elected will effect social policy in this country for decades. A number of supreme court justices are about to retire, and most recent decisions have been split decisions. While congress has to approve them, the president appoints them, and they ***serve for LIFE

roe v wade, brown v board of education, "gore v bush", etc

economic policies, foreign conflicts are transient. while they can veto pro-doctor congressional bills, there is no real guarantee that kerry/edwards will be able to push anti-doctor bills through a republicna dominated congress. in fact, pro-doctor legislation has repeatedly ***prevented from going to the floor to be debated*** by the dems. it's too complicated to say that kerry/edwards=worse for doctors. republicans have been stymied in their pro-doctor efforts, and it is unlikely the dems will be able to make it worse.

supreme court appointments are forever and more directly controlled by the president. getting bills through a divided congress is VERY tough, and having somebody in the white house is not guaranteed to help you.

i'm voting democrat; it will hurt, but i think it will help me sleep at night; i don't think edwards will be able to puch things through a republican congress.
 
joshmir said:
....the only thing that can be known for sure...

whoever gets elected will effect social policy in this country for decades. A number of supreme court justices are about to retire, and most recent decisions have been split decisions. While congress has to approve them, the president appoints them, and they ***serve for LIFE

roe v wade, brown v board of education, "gore v bush", etc

economic policies, foreign conflicts are transient. while they can veto pro-doctor congressional bills, there is no real guarantee that kerry/edwards will be able to push anti-doctor bills through a republicna dominated congress. in fact, pro-doctor legislation has repeatedly ***prevented from going to the floor to be debated*** by the dems. it's too complicated to say that kerry/edwards=worse for doctors. republicans have been stymied in their pro-doctor efforts, and it is unlikely the dems will be able to make it worse.

supreme court appointments are forever and more directly controlled by the president. getting bills through a divided congress is VERY tough, and having somebody in the white house is not guaranteed to help you.

i'm voting democrat; it will hurt, but i think it will help me sleep at night; i don't think edwards will be able to puch things through a republican congress.


Who do you think approves/denies Presidential nominations to the Supreme Court?
 
I'm usually on the ophtho forum, and someone directed our attention to Kerry's position on CRNAs. On my way to the garage to scrape the John Kerry bumper sticker off my car, I decided to check out his website. Nothing on CRNAs, but I did find the statement below regarding malpractice:



As president, John Kerry will require that a qualified specialist certifies a medical malpractice case's merit before it is allowed to move forward. He will also work with states to ensure the availability of non-binding mediation in all malpractice claims before cases proceed to trial. John Kerry will make the system fairer for doctors and patients alike by preventing and punishing frivolous lawsuits. Lawyers who file frivolous cases would face tough, mandatory sanctions, including a "three strikes and you're out" provision that forbids lawyers who file three frivolous cases from bringing another suit for the next 10 years. John Kerry also opposes punitive damages - unless intentional misconduct, gross negligence, or reckless indifference to life can be established. Finally, John Kerry will work to eliminate the special privileges that allow insurance companies to fix prices and collude in ways that increase medical malpractice premiums.


Lip service, I know, but it sounds good. Can anyone provide me with a link to the statements that started this thread in the first place?
 
mdkurt said:
As president, John Kerry will require that a qualified specialist certifies a medical malpractice case's merit before it is allowed to move forward. He will also work with states to ensure the availability of non-binding mediation in all malpractice claims before cases proceed to trial. John Kerry will make the system fairer for doctors and patients alike by preventing and punishing frivolous lawsuits. Lawyers who file frivolous cases would face tough, mandatory sanctions, including a "three strikes and you're out" provision that forbids lawyers who file three frivolous cases from bringing another suit for the next 10 years. John Kerry also opposes punitive damages - unless intentional misconduct, gross negligence, or reckless indifference to life can be established. Finally, John Kerry will work to eliminate the special privileges that allow insurance companies to fix prices and collude in ways that increase medical malpractice premiums.


Lip service, I know, but it sounds good. Can anyone provide me with a link to the statements that started this thread in the first place?


Kerry's choice of an infamous malpractice attorney was the inciting blow for many doctors to speak out publically on this issue. Kerry supporters argue that just because Edwards has a history of being on the side of litigants against doctors does not mean that it will affect his policy once he's in office. I don't really have a sound argument against that, but personally, if somebody picks an abortion-performing doctor as his running mate, I'd have a hard time believing that their policies are going to be very anti-abortion. Just common sense to me.

And all those promises mentioned ARE just lip service. Maybe somebody can correct me on this, but Kerry has NEVER publically supported any legistation that would curb malpractice abuse.

Bush, on the other hand has SPECIFICALLY supported a plan that would work the same way as the very successful MICRA act that we have in California.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/16/bush.malpractice/

I'm not going to get into a debate on political issues regarding war / gay marriage, etc, BUT on the sole issue of a better, fairer environment for us doctors to practice taking care of our patients and a rightfully more difficult environment for trial lawyers to do their deed to make our lives stressful, physicians who are acting on their own self interests HAVE TO go with Bush over Kerry/Edwards
 
Vote for Kerry if you must on issues such as the war, stem cell research, and taxation.

But please, please, please realize that it will profoundly affect your salary and the way american medicine is practiced. You do not realize how many times this nation has come within one inch of enacting national healthcare in the form of socialized medicine. Almost every liberal administration since FDR has tried, and some have come very close. I am very surprised it hasn't happened yet.

Do you realize that physicians have only been high wage earners for the past eighty years? Before that, medicine was considered a "low" profession to enter, not worthy of someone well brought up with a good education and prospects. They earned BELOW the average salary. Please read "the social transformation of american medicine" by Paul Starr. You will realize that despite the recent assault on the authority and economic well being of physicians, we are very well off historically.

Kerry's positions and Edward's viewpoints will undoubtbly continue to erode our profession, promote socialized medicine, and replace physicians with midlevels. Vote how you want but please realize that.
 
The difference between all those dictators, fascists etc is that dictators tend to kill people in their own country first then move onto other countries, Bush just cut to the chase, he likes you guys after all.
 
jjjez said:
The difference between all those dictators, fascists etc is that dictators tend to kill people in their own country first then move onto other countries, Bush just cut to the chase, he likes you guys after all.

What the hell does that mean?
 
jjjez said:
The difference between all those dictators, fascists etc is that dictators tend to kill people in their own country first then move onto other countries, Bush just cut to the chase, he likes you guys after all.
What country are you living in? If you don't like the US, MOVE.
 
One of the things that I enjoy about President Bush is that he is not afraid to tell you where he stands on any given issue--he understands that there are those out there that will be unhappy and is fair in defending his position. Further, once he makes a decision, he sticks with it.

You can tell that Kerry is trying to become President. He does his best to tell people what they want to hear--the theory being that the more happy people there are, the more votes he will get. There is too much flip-flop on the Kerry side. One thing you have to consider is he may tell a group one thing to get into office. Once he is in office he can do whatever he pleases. It is kind of like LBJ who ran as the "peace candidate" in the '60s and then after he was in office, he waged the Vietnam war.

People may not agree with everything President Bush does, but at least you know what you are going to get. It is all about integrity and being able to weather the storms ahead.
 
jjjez said:
The difference between all those dictators, fascists etc is that dictators tend to kill people in their own country first then move onto other countries, Bush just cut to the chase, he likes you guys after all.

jjjez are you sniffing glue? Appeasement of tyrants/terrorists never works. I suggest you and the rest of Europe study recent world history. Imagine how many lives would have been saved in the 1930's if someone would have had the grapefruits to preemtively strike Japan & Germany. I happen to agree w/ what Bush is doing to fight terrorist. Working in a slaughter house is a nasty job but someone has to do it so you and I can eat steak. In case you haven't noticed there is no co-existing w/ radical Muslim fundamentalist. They understand 2 things (1) chopping off your head (2) licking your boots. Personally I'd rather have them licking my boots. If you don't agree w/ that you and Kerry can move to Europe together. When the radical fundamentalist overtake that continent who do you think they are going to want to bail them out?
 
bestiller said:
jjjez are you sniffing glue? Appeasement of tyrants/terrorists never works. I suggest you and the rest of Europe study recent world history. Imagine how many lives would have been saved in the 1930's if someone would have had the grapefruits to preemtively strike Japan & Germany. I happen to agree w/ what Bush is doing to fight terrorist. Working in a slaughter house is a nasty job but someone has to do it so you and I can eat steak. In case you haven't noticed there is no co-existing w/ radical Muslim fundamentalist. They understand 2 things (1) chopping off your head (2) licking your boots. Personally I'd rather have them licking my boots. If you don't agree w/ that you and Kerry can move to Europe together. When the radical fundamentalist overtake that continent who do you think they are going to want to bail them out?



I grew up in Poland and agree with you 100%. People (US) sit in there nice homes, drive nice cars, and always had a good life; they have no idea what it is like to live with terrorists. Eastern Europe is better today, but it is by no means like the US. We have freedom of choice in the US, and that has only come from standing our ground.

Letting terrorists run our lives is by no means the American dream. We all should be thankful that we have a government that is protecting us from further atrocities as 9/11.

All I can really say is, if you do not like living in freedom, go live elsewhere.
 
If you don't agree w/ that you and Kerry can move to Europe together.



Right, because John Kerry does not want to fight terrorism. 🙄
 
amnesic said:
If you don't agree w/ that you and Kerry can move to Europe together.



Right, because John Kerry does not want to fight terrorism. 🙄


Who are you talking about.
 
endodoc said:
All I can really say is, if you do not like living in freedom, go live elsewhere.

I really hate when the political right uses simplistic/idiotic statements like the one above in an attempt to make thier point. There only purpose is to sway those simple minded and uninformed.

First off, you do not have to dislike freedom to be in disagreement with the direction that we are moving in. And last time a checked since I live in free country I have the freedom to disagree.

endodoc said:
People (US) sit in there nice homes, drive nice cars, and always had a good life;

You haven't been in the United States long enough if you believe everyone in the US is living the good life. There are places in the United States where the infant death rate lags far behind other industrialized and some "developing" nations. There are two American health care systems, and if we are not careful their will be two America's socio-economically. And one party is doing nothing to prevent this.


endodoc said:
If you don't like the US, MOVE.

Giving up and running away is what people from Europe do. In the US we make changes.
 
kerry is for unsupervised practice of nurse anesthetists and pushing hard for that to pass thru...
one of the biggest reasons i will not vote for him (not that i like bush either)
 
LuckyMD2b said:
I really hate when the political right uses simplistic/idiotic statements like the one above in an attempt to make thier point. There only purpose is to sway those simple minded and uninformed.

First off, you do not have to dislike freedom to be in disagreement with the direction that we are moving in. And last time a checked since I live in free country I have the freedom to disagree.



You haven't been in the United States long enough if you believe everyone in the US is living the good life. There are places in the United States where the infant death rate lags far behind other industrialized and some "developing" nations. There are two American health care systems, and if we are not careful their will be two America's socio-economically. And one party is doing nothing to prevent this.




Giving up and running away is what people from Europe do. In the US we make changes.

People in the US in General are in far better shape money wise than a large majority of Europe.

As far as making implistic/idiotic statements to sway simple minded and uninformed, this would be very easy for Kerry supporters.


If you are a Kerry fan, I hope you invested well prior to Nov. Nothing better than watching our mal practice raise, and income get by the min.


From your name "LuckyMD2b," you are a MD to be. Until you are a real MD you will not understand the impact the the Dem. party will have on med.

We can thank slick willy for all his help. I now have to see more patients, spend less time with them; in order to earn the same income.
 
Everyone gripes that Bush gets big money the oil companies. I just have one question. Who supports Kerry and every other Democrat?? Every trial lawyer organization in the country. Millions are going into the Kerry election from the trial lawyers.

Wait a minute. Did I hear Edwards' name thrown in there somewhere??
 
endodoc said:
People in the US in General are in far better shape money wise than a large majority of Europe.

As far as making implistic/idiotic statements to sway simple minded and uninformed, this would be very easy for Kerry supporters.


If you are a Kerry fan, I hope you invested well prior to Nov. Nothing better than watching our mal practice raise, and income get by the min.


From your name "LuckyMD2b," you are a MD to be. Until you are a real MD you will not understand the impact the the Dem. party will have on med.

We can thank slick willy for all his help. I now have to see more patients, spend less time with them; in order to earn the same income.

Amen to that!!!
 
Bush will help MD's and keep the midlevels at bay, not to mention pursuing tort reform. This election is about ideology. Who wants an intusive paternalistic government.
 
Most Americans aren't ideologs, but rather practical and don't care about party affilitation but who is doing the best for the country.

So lets take a look at the ISSUES

Funding Healthcare:

GOP: Medicare Rx drug benefit
A national Kaiser Family Foundation/Harvard School of Public Health survey of people on Medicare finds nearly twice as many people on Medicare have an unfavorable view of the law as have a favorable view.

Conducted from June 16 to July 21, 2004, the survey of 1,223 people on Medicare finds that most don?t think the law will be helpful to them personally. Two out of three people on Medicare say that lawmakers in Washington should work to fix problems in the law, while much smaller numbers favor repealing the law or leaving the law alone.

The survey also finds that the views of people on Medicare about the new law favor Democrats more than Republicans in the 2004 elections.

Dems: Favors incrementally reaching universal coverage

Abortion:
GOP: Pro Life
Dems: Pro Choice

From 2004 to 2008 one or more Supreme Court Justices will probably be appointed, and this is a litmus test issue between conservatives and liberals. Illegal or not, women will not give up the right of abortion -- America cannot return to the Back Alley abortions prior to Roe v. Wade.

Social Security

GOP: Favors Privatization -- Historically large deficit threatens SS
Dems: Opposed to Privatization -- Safeguard retirement plans and minimize risk.

Ask seniors who they agree with.

Embryonic Stem Cell Research
GOP: Opposed
Dems: Supports

Where will your patients want you to vote?
 
Anesthesiology will continue for years to come. BUT, the PEOPLE who administer anesthesia will change. Trust me, this change is already underway. I totally respect all you MDA's. HOWEVER, I PITY the current medical students, who are considering anesthesia. Especially those who are in it for the $$$/hours. Do you seriously think that the job market in 4-5 years (i.e. when you finish residency) will be as it is today? Face it, Kerry will be elected. He will give us full independance - and for legitimate reasons. You are seriously considering entering a field where, in 10 years there will be NO jobs for MD's. I pity you...
 
crna2004 said:
Anesthesiology will continue for years to come. BUT, the PEOPLE who administer anesthesia will change. Trust me, this change is already underway. I totally respect all you MDA's. HOWEVER, I PITY the current medical students, who are considering anesthesia. Especially those who are in it for the $$$/hours. Do you seriously think that the job market in 4-5 years (i.e. when you finish residency) will be as it is today? Face it, Kerry will be elected. He will give us full independance - and for legitimate reasons. You are seriously considering entering a field where, in 10 years there will be NO jobs for MD's. I pity you...

Maybe you should study the political process a little further. Kerry won't give you squat unless Congress goes along.
 
I rest my case, paternalistic!! I prefer not to have my government take care of (control) me while they raise my taxes, socialize medicine, and promote ridiculous lawsuits.
LuckyMD2b said:
C'mon where do y'all stand on the Issues?
 
Fighting for America's Nurses

Throughout his career, John Kerry has proudly stood with and fought for America?s nurses. Kerry teamed with Ted Kennedy to fight against mandatory overtime. He co-authored the Nurse Reinvestment Act encourage more nurses to enter the workforce and improve training, education, and retention for those who are there today. And Kerry worked closely with nurses in Brockton, Mass. when they were forced to strike for better pay and working conditions. As President, John Kerry will continue to be a tireless advocate for nurses.

Priorities

1. End Mandatory Overtime: Nurses work around the clock to take care of our most vulnerable citizens. John Kerry stood shoulder to shoulder with Senator Ted Kennedy to fight against mandatory overtime for nurses. Mandatory overtime is having a negative impact on patient care, forcing medical errors, and driving nurses from the bedside. Unfortunately, the problem is only getting worse. The Kennedy-Kerry legislation will place strict limitations on the mandatory overtime hours a nurse may be required to work.


2. Ensure Safe Staffing Levels : John Kerry believes we need to ensure that there are adequate staffing levels of registered nurses in our health care facilities. When staffing is inadequate, nurses are forced to work overtime and care for too many patients. The difficult working environment for nurses, caused in part by understaffing, is part of the reason that we have a nursing shortage. And, as all nurses know, it can undermine the quality of care.
The Medicare and Medicaid programs give the Federal government the leverage to make sure we have appropriate staffing levels. John Kerry will implement rules that account for the number of patients that a nurse cares for in any given shift, the specific health needs of these patients, and the levels of experience and preparation of participating nurses. It is nurses who best understand what is required by the job and John Kerry believes they must be involved in developing safe staffing systems. The safety of millions of Americans depends upon swift and decisive action to implement appropriate nurse staffing levels nationwide. John Kerry will take this action.

3. Combat the Nursing Shortage: John Kerry believes the best way to recruit and train more nurses is to treat them with the professionalism and respect they deserve. That starts with good working conditions including: better pay; a career ladder to empower more experienced nurses and to assure younger nurses have mentors to encourage them to stay in the profession; and good working conditions, rather than forced overtime or asking nurses to care for too many patients. John Kerry co-authored the Nurse Reinvestment Act to encourage more nurses to enter the workforce and improve training, education, and retention for those who are there today. He believes we must fully fund this legislation.

4. Comprehensive Whistle Blower Protection : John Kerry will fight for comprehensive whistleblower protections to assure that health care workers in all settings are able to report work conditions and incidents without retaliation. He believes this should be law and supports enacting a strong Patients Bill of Rights. Kerry also supports making whistleblower protections a condition for health care providers who want to participate in Medicare or Medicaid.

5. Strong and Enforceable Rules for a Safe and Healthy Workplace: The most recent reports from the Department of Labor show that workplace injuries continue to rise. John Kerry believes we need to step up enforcement action and begin to prosecute willful violators of health and safety rules. We also need an administration that recognizes the health and safety threat that workers face, whether in the form of ergonomic injury, exposure to TB, or workplace accidents. John Kerry will start by stepping up OSHA inspections, ordering the Justice Department to vigorously prosecute the worst violators and reinstating the standards for ergonomics that the Bush Administration eliminated.

6. Fighting for the Right to Choose a Union: John Kerry strongly supports labor law reforms to assure that nurses have the right to organize. He believes that the card check and neutrality system is the most fair and equitable way for employees to establish their desire to form a union and for employers to recognize the union and begin negotiations. John Kerry worked closely with nurses in Brockton, Massachusetts to settle a strike and he understands that too often working conditions do not improve without the right to organize. John Kerry believes freedom of workers to form unions and bargain collectively is a fundamental right and he will not stand for a labor law system in which the union doors are shut for millions of workers.

7. Reduce Medication Errors and Stop the Scapegoating of Nurses : As the landmark Institute of Medicine report found, medical errors cause nearly 100,000 preventable deaths every year. John Kerry believes the first step to combat this problem is creating an atmosphere where health care providers feel comfortable coming forward without fear of retribution. Kerry believes we can do this by instituting non-punitive systems for reporting and analyzing errors. It is equally essential to ensure safe staffing levels and stop mandatory overtime. Overworked nurses and understaffed hospitals place an unfair burden on the shoulders of frontline health care providers and undermine patient care. As president, John Kerry will make sure we don?t place unreasonable demands on our health care workers.

Finally, John Kerry will work to close the extremely wide gap between best practices and typical practices. Too often, our knowledge about care does not translate into day to day practice. Changing this, particularly for selected chronic diseases (such as diabetes, stroke, congestive heart failure, and arthritis), would dramatically improve health outcomes and reduce costs.

To implement widespread change in the health care system, John Kerry believes we need a national commitment that brings everyone to the table. That?s why he has proposed a ?Quality Bonus? program that will provide financial incentives to help providers and purchasers improve quality. It provides incentives and rewards health care organizations and health professionals that invest in modern information systems, provide economic incentives to computerize prescribing systems and to make errors transparent ? not to punish people, but to find ways to prevent the reoccurrence of these errors.

8. Protect Nurses from Workplace Violence : The number of workplace violence incidents involving nurses is alarmingly high. As President, John Kerry will take decisive action to combat this disturbing trend. He will implement a strong and enforceable Federal standard on workplace violence. He will make sure that every health care facility in America has the most up to date information on training methods and responses to violence. And he will ensure that the government takes an active role in disseminating information on best practices for preventing and addressing workplace violence.

9. Support Advanced Practice Registered Nurses (APRNs): John Kerry will ensure fair treatment for Nurse Practitioners, Clinical Nurse Specialists, Nurse Midwives and Nurse Anesthetists. Numerous studies have shown that advanced practice nurses provide safe and high quality care. It is long past time that the federal government properly recognized the crucial role that APRNs play in the American health care system. John Kerry has supported legislation to expand reimbursement opportunities for APRNs. However, he understands that there is much more to do to end the discrimination and barriers to practice that APRNs face. Too often, APRN services are not reimbursed by third party payers. They aren?t on panels that set reimbursement policy or assess care. Highly restrictive limitations on APRN scope of practice persist. These barriers deny health care consumers the widest possible choice of providers. As president, John Kerry will fight for specific legislative and regulatory changes to allow APRNs to practice fully.
Kerry will raise the outrageously low Medicare reimbursement rate for nurse midwives, removing a barrier that prevents CNMs from caring for disabled women. And John Kerry will push for a change in Medicare rules to allow home health agencies and hospices to accept referrals from nurse practitioners.
 
#9 = INDEPENDANT reimbursement for CRNAs.
 
This is comical. For 20 years I've seen folks like you come and go making ridiculous claims. Politicians keep less that 8% of their campaign promises, and that applies to both parties. Amazing, ignorance is at epidemic proportions these days.

crna2004 said:
Fighting for America's Nurses

Throughout his career, John Kerry has proudly stood with and fought for America?s nurses. Kerry teamed with Ted Kennedy to fight against mandatory overtime. He co-authored the Nurse Reinvestment Act encourage more nurses to enter the workforce and improve training, education, and retention for those who are there today. And Kerry worked closely with nurses in Brockton, Mass. when they were forced to strike for better pay and working conditions. As President, John Kerry will continue to be a tireless advocate for nurses.

Priorities

1. End Mandatory Overtime: Nurses work around the clock to take care of our most vulnerable citizens. John Kerry stood shoulder to shoulder with Senator Ted Kennedy to fight against mandatory overtime for nurses. Mandatory overtime is having a negative impact on patient care, forcing medical errors, and driving nurses from the bedside. Unfortunately, the problem is only getting worse. The Kennedy-Kerry legislation will place strict limitations on the mandatory overtime hours a nurse may be required to work.


2. Ensure Safe Staffing Levels : John Kerry believes we need to ensure that there are adequate staffing levels of registered nurses in our health care facilities. When staffing is inadequate, nurses are forced to work overtime and care for too many patients. The difficult working environment for nurses, caused in part by understaffing, is part of the reason that we have a nursing shortage. And, as all nurses know, it can undermine the quality of care.
The Medicare and Medicaid programs give the Federal government the leverage to make sure we have appropriate staffing levels. John Kerry will implement rules that account for the number of patients that a nurse cares for in any given shift, the specific health needs of these patients, and the levels of experience and preparation of participating nurses. It is nurses who best understand what is required by the job and John Kerry believes they must be involved in developing safe staffing systems. The safety of millions of Americans depends upon swift and decisive action to implement appropriate nurse staffing levels nationwide. John Kerry will take this action.

3. Combat the Nursing Shortage: John Kerry believes the best way to recruit and train more nurses is to treat them with the professionalism and respect they deserve. That starts with good working conditions including: better pay; a career ladder to empower more experienced nurses and to assure younger nurses have mentors to encourage them to stay in the profession; and good working conditions, rather than forced overtime or asking nurses to care for too many patients. John Kerry co-authored the Nurse Reinvestment Act to encourage more nurses to enter the workforce and improve training, education, and retention for those who are there today. He believes we must fully fund this legislation.

4. Comprehensive Whistle Blower Protection : John Kerry will fight for comprehensive whistleblower protections to assure that health care workers in all settings are able to report work conditions and incidents without retaliation. He believes this should be law and supports enacting a strong Patients Bill of Rights. Kerry also supports making whistleblower protections a condition for health care providers who want to participate in Medicare or Medicaid.

5. Strong and Enforceable Rules for a Safe and Healthy Workplace: The most recent reports from the Department of Labor show that workplace injuries continue to rise. John Kerry believes we need to step up enforcement action and begin to prosecute willful violators of health and safety rules. We also need an administration that recognizes the health and safety threat that workers face, whether in the form of ergonomic injury, exposure to TB, or workplace accidents. John Kerry will start by stepping up OSHA inspections, ordering the Justice Department to vigorously prosecute the worst violators and reinstating the standards for ergonomics that the Bush Administration eliminated.

6. Fighting for the Right to Choose a Union: John Kerry strongly supports labor law reforms to assure that nurses have the right to organize. He believes that the card check and neutrality system is the most fair and equitable way for employees to establish their desire to form a union and for employers to recognize the union and begin negotiations. John Kerry worked closely with nurses in Brockton, Massachusetts to settle a strike and he understands that too often working conditions do not improve without the right to organize. John Kerry believes freedom of workers to form unions and bargain collectively is a fundamental right and he will not stand for a labor law system in which the union doors are shut for millions of workers.

7. Reduce Medication Errors and Stop the Scapegoating of Nurses : As the landmark Institute of Medicine report found, medical errors cause nearly 100,000 preventable deaths every year. John Kerry believes the first step to combat this problem is creating an atmosphere where health care providers feel comfortable coming forward without fear of retribution. Kerry believes we can do this by instituting non-punitive systems for reporting and analyzing errors. It is equally essential to ensure safe staffing levels and stop mandatory overtime. Overworked nurses and understaffed hospitals place an unfair burden on the shoulders of frontline health care providers and undermine patient care. As president, John Kerry will make sure we don?t place unreasonable demands on our health care workers.

Finally, John Kerry will work to close the extremely wide gap between best practices and typical practices. Too often, our knowledge about care does not translate into day to day practice. Changing this, particularly for selected chronic diseases (such as diabetes, stroke, congestive heart failure, and arthritis), would dramatically improve health outcomes and reduce costs.

To implement widespread change in the health care system, John Kerry believes we need a national commitment that brings everyone to the table. That?s why he has proposed a ?Quality Bonus? program that will provide financial incentives to help providers and purchasers improve quality. It provides incentives and rewards health care organizations and health professionals that invest in modern information systems, provide economic incentives to computerize prescribing systems and to make errors transparent ? not to punish people, but to find ways to prevent the reoccurrence of these errors.

8. Protect Nurses from Workplace Violence : The number of workplace violence incidents involving nurses is alarmingly high. As President, John Kerry will take decisive action to combat this disturbing trend. He will implement a strong and enforceable Federal standard on workplace violence. He will make sure that every health care facility in America has the most up to date information on training methods and responses to violence. And he will ensure that the government takes an active role in disseminating information on best practices for preventing and addressing workplace violence.

9. Support Advanced Practice Registered Nurses (APRNs): John Kerry will ensure fair treatment for Nurse Practitioners, Clinical Nurse Specialists, Nurse Midwives and Nurse Anesthetists. Numerous studies have shown that advanced practice nurses provide safe and high quality care. It is long past time that the federal government properly recognized the crucial role that APRNs play in the American health care system. John Kerry has supported legislation to expand reimbursement opportunities for APRNs. However, he understands that there is much more to do to end the discrimination and barriers to practice that APRNs face. Too often, APRN services are not reimbursed by third party payers. They aren?t on panels that set reimbursement policy or assess care. Highly restrictive limitations on APRN scope of practice persist. These barriers deny health care consumers the widest possible choice of providers. As president, John Kerry will fight for specific legislative and regulatory changes to allow APRNs to practice fully.
Kerry will raise the outrageously low Medicare reimbursement rate for nurse midwives, removing a barrier that prevents CNMs from caring for disabled women. And John Kerry will push for a change in Medicare rules to allow home health agencies and hospices to accept referrals from nurse practitioners.
 
I don't know about you liberal folks, but I perfer smaller govt that lets me spend MY MONEY where I want to, and how I want to.
 
crna2004 says:

HOWEVER, I PITY the current medical students, who are considering anesthesia. Especially those who are in it for the $$$/hours. Do you seriously think that the job market in 4-5 years (i.e. when you finish residency) will be as it is today?


don't underestimate the power of the FMG labor pool. psychiatry and family medicine dip deep into it, and nobody's complaining. PSYCHIATRY. where else would an FMG be more at a disadvantage? and they make about the same as nurse anesthetists. many FMGs are former surgeons who would love to take a job in the states where they will earn much more for much much less time. don't misinterpret this as condescension; I am a US MD grad, and my dad is an FMG psychiatrist (and a very good one, too) 😀 the chief residents at many prestigious gas programs are fmgs.


when crna2004 makes predictions, he/she often points to the idea that med students in the future will not want to go into it. i think that is less relevant than he thinks.

also, surgeons will always prefer gas docs to nurses; while states allow crnas to practice independently, some hospitals say the surgoen is officially supervising them.

what's crna2004's motivation? he is just so bursting with love for his fellow man that he can't hold back his helpful perspectives? brother, the onus is upon you to prove your non-troll-ness.
 
conservative said:
I rest my case, paternalistic!! I prefer not to have my government take care of (control) me while they raise my taxes, socialize medicine, and promote ridiculous lawsuits.

Do you mean paternalistic and controlling like telling people who they can and cannot get married to? Or maybe paternalistic like telling women that they cannot have an abortion? Controlling? As in preventing scientists from doing potentially ground-breaking research?

I didn't know "conservative" was a synonym for hypocrite.

I don't know why you went into medicine, but it is honestly a tragedy that many Americans do not have access to the best healthcare system in the world. Socialized medicine may not be the best, but there are better alternatives.

Healthcare is a human right, not a privilege only for those wealthy enough to afford it.
 
LuckyMD2b Healthcare is a human right said:
Anyone in NEED of healthcare can get it at their local ER/urgicenter. I've never seen an alcoholic with no health care being turned away from the ER with pancreatitis. I've never seen a homeless person with chest pain not appropriately worked up for R/O MI.

However, healthcare with your own chosen physician, for elective procedures, or scheduled appointments is a privilege. Deal with it.
 
"Rarely is the question asked, 'Is our children learning?'"

By the way, I hope that quote is meant to be sarcastic...
 
undecided05 said:
"Rarely is the question asked, 'Is our children learning?'"

By the way, I hope that quote is meant to be sarcastic...

The quote was taken directly from the mouth of Dubya himself.
 
LuckyMD2b said:
The quote was taken directly from the mouth of Dubya himself.



Hey...don't misunderestimate him.
 
My reply to Joshmir's comments:
"HOWEVER, I PITY the current medical students, who are considering anesthesia. Especially those who are in it for the $$$/hours. Do you seriously think that the job market in 4-5 years (i.e. when you finish residency) will be as it is today?


don't underestimate the power of the FMG labor pool. psychiatry and family medicine dip deep into it, and nobody's complaining. PSYCHIATRY. where else would an FMG be more at a disadvantage? and they make about the same as nurse anesthetists. many FMGs are former surgeons who would love to take a job in the states where they will earn much more for much much less time. don't misinterpret this as condescension; I am a US MD grad, and my dad is an FMG psychiatrist (and a very good one, too) the chief residents at many prestigious gas programs are fmgs.


when crna2004 makes predictions, he/she often points to the idea that med students in the future will not want to go into it. i think that is less relevant than he thinks.

also, surgeons will always prefer gas docs to nurses; while states allow crnas to practice independently, some hospitals say the surgoen is officially supervising them.

what's crna2004's motivation? he is just so bursting with love for his fellow man that he can't hold back his helpful perspectives? brother, the onus is upon you to prove your non-troll-ness."

I completely agree with your claims. Why do so many FMGs go into pyschiatry? I think that a lot of it is because relatively few USMGs go into it - which I feel is DIRECTLY related to the low pay. It has a great lifestyle, and I think if they made $300,000+ it would INSTANTLY become one of the most competitive specities. Now, anesthesia is currently popular because of the $$$/lifestyle. However, in 10 years the compensation will drop severely (managed care + CRNAs + Kerry's reforms). At that point, all graduating MDAs will have difficulty finding jobs - and will certainly have to accept lower salaries than they have today. At that point, I agree that anesthesia will again become dominated by FMGs, as it was in the past. Current medical students are shortsighted. They see the current $$$$/lifestyle of anesthesia, and are drawn to it. But, they are shortsighted - as they do not see the future prospects of the field. The real question is...If you are only abel to make $100,000 as a MDA, would you still enter the field? If so, Great! If not, you really should be considering a different field, with an equally good lifestyle like derm, where future job opportunities abound. Anesthesia in 10 years will look nothing like it is today. It will increasingly be dominated by CRNAs. FMGs will enter for the same reasons that they enter psychiatry - i.e. it is a field with low pay that few USMGs desire to enter.
 
undecided05 said:
LuckyMD2b said:
Healthcare is a human right, not a privilege only for those wealthy enough to afford it.


Anyone in NEED of healthcare can get it at their local ER/urgicenter. I've never seen an alcoholic with no health care being turned away from the ER with pancreatitis. I've never seen a homeless person with chest pain not appropriately worked up for R/O MI.

However, healthcare with your own chosen physician, for elective procedures, or scheduled appointments is a privilege. Deal with it.

You are right when it comes to the emergency/urgent care. But what about primary care, this is where all of the disparities are.

Dealing with it / ignoring it is what we have been doing... and the result is an increased burden on our healthcare system and poor outcomes for our patients. Most of the people without health insurance in the US are working class, the poor are covered by medicaid. These people are walking around with hypertension that is way out of control, or uncontrolled diabetes.

And we don't see them until they come into the ED for r/o MI or r/o Stroke or in need of an amputation. They don't have insurance, and they don't come in until they can no longer bare thier symptoms; often when it is too late. Patients become disabled from chronic conditions that should have been treated preventatively by primary care. And once disabled they automatically become eligible for the government to pay for their medical bills -- THAT'S RIGHT your precious taxes.

I personally think human life is worth more than any $ amount, but let's think logically here: What is more cost effective ensuring that someone can get meds to keep thier diabetes and hypertension undercontrol, or taking care of an amputee or someone s/p stroke or blindness.

This is the way our society has been "dealing with it" and it is not working.
 
LuckyMD2b said:
Healthcare is a human right, not a privilege only for those wealthy enough to afford it.

Here you go again. Once again you've been sucked in by the emotional rights vs. privilege argument. Healthcare is a privilege.

As far as stem cell research is concerned, the ban on stem cell research is only a ban on allocating federal funds for stem cell research.
 
LuckyMD2b said:
You are right when it comes to the emergency/urgent care. But what about primary care, this is where all of the disparities are.

Dealing with it / ignoring it is what we have been doing... and the result is an increased burden on our healthcare system and poor outcomes for our patients. Most of the people without health insurance in the US are working class, the poor are covered by medicaid. These people are walking around with hypertension that is way out of control, or uncontrolled diabetes.

And we don't see them until they come into the ED for r/o MI or r/o Stroke or in need of an amputation. They don't have insurance, and they don't come in until they can no longer bare thier symptoms; often when it is too late. Patients become disabled from chronic conditions that should have been treated preventatively by primary care. And once disabled they automatically become eligible for the government to pay for their medical bills -- THAT'S RIGHT your precious taxes.

Let's not forget that some people are just too lazy or stupid to properly take care of themselves, or they just don't give a sh** about themselves or the people around them.

Witness the idiots in Florida last week. There are mandatory evacuations because of the hurricane 2 full days before it hits land, yet there are these idiots on TV saying "...we only had one hour warning that it was going to hit and now we've lost everything...". I don't know about you, but there's a limit to the amount of sympathy that I can muster.
 
crna2004 said:
Fighting for America's Nurses

Throughout his career, John Kerry has proudly stood with and fought for America?s nurses. Kerry teamed with Ted Kennedy to fight against mandatory overtime. He co-authored the Nurse Reinvestment Act encourage more nurses to enter the workforce and improve training, education, and retention for those who are there today. And Kerry worked closely with nurses in Brockton, Mass. when they were forced to strike for better pay and working conditions. As President, John Kerry will continue to be a tireless advocate for nurses.

Priorities

1. End Mandatory Overtime: Nurses work around the clock to take care of our most vulnerable citizens. John Kerry stood shoulder to shoulder with Senator Ted Kennedy to fight against mandatory overtime for nurses. Mandatory overtime is having a negative impact on patient care, forcing medical errors, and driving nurses from the bedside. Unfortunately, the problem is only getting worse. The Kennedy-Kerry legislation will place strict limitations on the mandatory overtime hours a nurse may be required to work.


2. Ensure Safe Staffing Levels : John Kerry believes we need to ensure that there are adequate staffing levels of registered nurses in our health care facilities. When staffing is inadequate, nurses are forced to work overtime and care for too many patients. The difficult working environment for nurses, caused in part by understaffing, is part of the reason that we have a nursing shortage. And, as all nurses know, it can undermine the quality of care.
The Medicare and Medicaid programs give the Federal government the leverage to make sure we have appropriate staffing levels. John Kerry will implement rules that account for the number of patients that a nurse cares for in any given shift, the specific health needs of these patients, and the levels of experience and preparation of participating nurses. It is nurses who best understand what is required by the job and John Kerry believes they must be involved in developing safe staffing systems. The safety of millions of Americans depends upon swift and decisive action to implement appropriate nurse staffing levels nationwide. John Kerry will take this action.

3. Combat the Nursing Shortage: John Kerry believes the best way to recruit and train more nurses is to treat them with the professionalism and respect they deserve. That starts with good working conditions including: better pay; a career ladder to empower more experienced nurses and to assure younger nurses have mentors to encourage them to stay in the profession; and good working conditions, rather than forced overtime or asking nurses to care for too many patients. John Kerry co-authored the Nurse Reinvestment Act to encourage more nurses to enter the workforce and improve training, education, and retention for those who are there today. He believes we must fully fund this legislation.

4. Comprehensive Whistle Blower Protection : John Kerry will fight for comprehensive whistleblower protections to assure that health care workers in all settings are able to report work conditions and incidents without retaliation. He believes this should be law and supports enacting a strong Patients Bill of Rights. Kerry also supports making whistleblower protections a condition for health care providers who want to participate in Medicare or Medicaid.

5. Strong and Enforceable Rules for a Safe and Healthy Workplace: The most recent reports from the Department of Labor show that workplace injuries continue to rise. John Kerry believes we need to step up enforcement action and begin to prosecute willful violators of health and safety rules. We also need an administration that recognizes the health and safety threat that workers face, whether in the form of ergonomic injury, exposure to TB, or workplace accidents. John Kerry will start by stepping up OSHA inspections, ordering the Justice Department to vigorously prosecute the worst violators and reinstating the standards for ergonomics that the Bush Administration eliminated.

6. Fighting for the Right to Choose a Union: John Kerry strongly supports labor law reforms to assure that nurses have the right to organize. He believes that the card check and neutrality system is the most fair and equitable way for employees to establish their desire to form a union and for employers to recognize the union and begin negotiations. John Kerry worked closely with nurses in Brockton, Massachusetts to settle a strike and he understands that too often working conditions do not improve without the right to organize. John Kerry believes freedom of workers to form unions and bargain collectively is a fundamental right and he will not stand for a labor law system in which the union doors are shut for millions of workers.

7. Reduce Medication Errors and Stop the Scapegoating of Nurses : As the landmark Institute of Medicine report found, medical errors cause nearly 100,000 preventable deaths every year. John Kerry believes the first step to combat this problem is creating an atmosphere where health care providers feel comfortable coming forward without fear of retribution. Kerry believes we can do this by instituting non-punitive systems for reporting and analyzing errors. It is equally essential to ensure safe staffing levels and stop mandatory overtime. Overworked nurses and understaffed hospitals place an unfair burden on the shoulders of frontline health care providers and undermine patient care. As president, John Kerry will make sure we don?t place unreasonable demands on our health care workers.

Finally, John Kerry will work to close the extremely wide gap between best practices and typical practices. Too often, our knowledge about care does not translate into day to day practice. Changing this, particularly for selected chronic diseases (such as diabetes, stroke, congestive heart failure, and arthritis), would dramatically improve health outcomes and reduce costs.

To implement widespread change in the health care system, John Kerry believes we need a national commitment that brings everyone to the table. That?s why he has proposed a ?Quality Bonus? program that will provide financial incentives to help providers and purchasers improve quality. It provides incentives and rewards health care organizations and health professionals that invest in modern information systems, provide economic incentives to computerize prescribing systems and to make errors transparent ? not to punish people, but to find ways to prevent the reoccurrence of these errors.

8. Protect Nurses from Workplace Violence : The number of workplace violence incidents involving nurses is alarmingly high. As President, John Kerry will take decisive action to combat this disturbing trend. He will implement a strong and enforceable Federal standard on workplace violence. He will make sure that every health care facility in America has the most up to date information on training methods and responses to violence. And he will ensure that the government takes an active role in disseminating information on best practices for preventing and addressing workplace violence.

9. Support Advanced Practice Registered Nurses (APRNs): John Kerry will ensure fair treatment for Nurse Practitioners, Clinical Nurse Specialists, Nurse Midwives and Nurse Anesthetists. Numerous studies have shown that advanced practice nurses provide safe and high quality care. It is long past time that the federal government properly recognized the crucial role that APRNs play in the American health care system. John Kerry has supported legislation to expand reimbursement opportunities for APRNs. However, he understands that there is much more to do to end the discrimination and barriers to practice that APRNs face. Too often, APRN services are not reimbursed by third party payers. They aren?t on panels that set reimbursement policy or assess care. Highly restrictive limitations on APRN scope of practice persist. These barriers deny health care consumers the widest possible choice of providers. As president, John Kerry will fight for specific legislative and regulatory changes to allow APRNs to practice fully.
Kerry will raise the outrageously low Medicare reimbursement rate for nurse midwives, removing a barrier that prevents CNMs from caring for disabled women. And John Kerry will push for a change in Medicare rules to allow home health agencies and hospices to accept referrals from nurse practitioners.
Are you some kind of Kerry/Edwards campaign volunteer? I would recommend you take a peek at the Mass. Nurse Practice Act. Kerry's home state has no greater track record for RN'S, APRN's than any other state. Have you paid a malpractice premium lately? Have seen what reimbursement is lately? Have you ever had to pay income taxes? If you've done either you wouldn't be eager to put a self serving socialist and a trial lawyer in office!
 
crna2004 said:
Fighting for America's Nurses

Throughout his career, John Kerry has proudly stood with and fought for America?s nurses. Kerry teamed with Ted Kennedy to fight against mandatory overtime. He co-authored the Nurse Reinvestment Act encourage more nurses to enter the workforce and improve training, education, and retention for those who are there today. And Kerry worked closely with nurses in Brockton, Mass. when they were forced to strike for better pay and working conditions. As President, John Kerry will continue to be a tireless advocate for nurses.

Priorities

1. End Mandatory Overtime: Nurses work around the clock to take care of our most vulnerable citizens. John Kerry stood shoulder to shoulder with Senator Ted Kennedy to fight against mandatory overtime for nurses. Mandatory overtime is having a negative impact on patient care, forcing medical errors, and driving nurses from the bedside. Unfortunately, the problem is only getting worse. The Kennedy-Kerry legislation will place strict limitations on the mandatory overtime hours a nurse may be required to work.


2. Ensure Safe Staffing Levels : John Kerry believes we need to ensure that there are adequate staffing levels of registered nurses in our health care facilities. When staffing is inadequate, nurses are forced to work overtime and care for too many patients. The difficult working environment for nurses, caused in part by understaffing, is part of the reason that we have a nursing shortage. And, as all nurses know, it can undermine the quality of care.
The Medicare and Medicaid programs give the Federal government the leverage to make sure we have appropriate staffing levels. John Kerry will implement rules that account for the number of patients that a nurse cares for in any given shift, the specific health needs of these patients, and the levels of experience and preparation of participating nurses. It is nurses who best understand what is required by the job and John Kerry believes they must be involved in developing safe staffing systems. The safety of millions of Americans depends upon swift and decisive action to implement appropriate nurse staffing levels nationwide. John Kerry will take this action.

3. Combat the Nursing Shortage: John Kerry believes the best way to recruit and train more nurses is to treat them with the professionalism and respect they deserve. That starts with good working conditions including: better pay; a career ladder to empower more experienced nurses and to assure younger nurses have mentors to encourage them to stay in the profession; and good working conditions, rather than forced overtime or asking nurses to care for too many patients. John Kerry co-authored the Nurse Reinvestment Act to encourage more nurses to enter the workforce and improve training, education, and retention for those who are there today. He believes we must fully fund this legislation.

4. Comprehensive Whistle Blower Protection : John Kerry will fight for comprehensive whistleblower protections to assure that health care workers in all settings are able to report work conditions and incidents without retaliation. He believes this should be law and supports enacting a strong Patients Bill of Rights. Kerry also supports making whistleblower protections a condition for health care providers who want to participate in Medicare or Medicaid.

5. Strong and Enforceable Rules for a Safe and Healthy Workplace: The most recent reports from the Department of Labor show that workplace injuries continue to rise. John Kerry believes we need to step up enforcement action and begin to prosecute willful violators of health and safety rules. We also need an administration that recognizes the health and safety threat that workers face, whether in the form of ergonomic injury, exposure to TB, or workplace accidents. John Kerry will start by stepping up OSHA inspections, ordering the Justice Department to vigorously prosecute the worst violators and reinstating the standards for ergonomics that the Bush Administration eliminated.

6. Fighting for the Right to Choose a Union: John Kerry strongly supports labor law reforms to assure that nurses have the right to organize. He believes that the card check and neutrality system is the most fair and equitable way for employees to establish their desire to form a union and for employers to recognize the union and begin negotiations. John Kerry worked closely with nurses in Brockton, Massachusetts to settle a strike and he understands that too often working conditions do not improve without the right to organize. John Kerry believes freedom of workers to form unions and bargain collectively is a fundamental right and he will not stand for a labor law system in which the union doors are shut for millions of workers.

7. Reduce Medication Errors and Stop the Scapegoating of Nurses : As the landmark Institute of Medicine report found, medical errors cause nearly 100,000 preventable deaths every year. John Kerry believes the first step to combat this problem is creating an atmosphere where health care providers feel comfortable coming forward without fear of retribution. Kerry believes we can do this by instituting non-punitive systems for reporting and analyzing errors. It is equally essential to ensure safe staffing levels and stop mandatory overtime. Overworked nurses and understaffed hospitals place an unfair burden on the shoulders of frontline health care providers and undermine patient care. As president, John Kerry will make sure we don?t place unreasonable demands on our health care workers.

Finally, John Kerry will work to close the extremely wide gap between best practices and typical practices. Too often, our knowledge about care does not translate into day to day practice. Changing this, particularly for selected chronic diseases (such as diabetes, stroke, congestive heart failure, and arthritis), would dramatically improve health outcomes and reduce costs.

To implement widespread change in the health care system, John Kerry believes we need a national commitment that brings everyone to the table. That?s why he has proposed a ?Quality Bonus? program that will provide financial incentives to help providers and purchasers improve quality. It provides incentives and rewards health care organizations and health professionals that invest in modern information systems, provide economic incentives to computerize prescribing systems and to make errors transparent ? not to punish people, but to find ways to prevent the reoccurrence of these errors.

8. Protect Nurses from Workplace Violence : The number of workplace violence incidents involving nurses is alarmingly high. As President, John Kerry will take decisive action to combat this disturbing trend. He will implement a strong and enforceable Federal standard on workplace violence. He will make sure that every health care facility in America has the most up to date information on training methods and responses to violence. And he will ensure that the government takes an active role in disseminating information on best practices for preventing and addressing workplace violence.

9. Support Advanced Practice Registered Nurses (APRNs): John Kerry will ensure fair treatment for Nurse Practitioners, Clinical Nurse Specialists, Nurse Midwives and Nurse Anesthetists. Numerous studies have shown that advanced practice nurses provide safe and high quality care. It is long past time that the federal government properly recognized the crucial role that APRNs play in the American health care system. John Kerry has supported legislation to expand reimbursement opportunities for APRNs. However, he understands that there is much more to do to end the discrimination and barriers to practice that APRNs face. Too often, APRN services are not reimbursed by third party payers. They aren?t on panels that set reimbursement policy or assess care. Highly restrictive limitations on APRN scope of practice persist. These barriers deny health care consumers the widest possible choice of providers. As president, John Kerry will fight for specific legislative and regulatory changes to allow APRNs to practice fully.
Kerry will raise the outrageously low Medicare reimbursement rate for nurse midwives, removing a barrier that prevents CNMs from caring for disabled women. And John Kerry will push for a change in Medicare rules to allow home health agencies and hospices to accept referrals from nurse practitioners.


You either work for the liberal freak Edwards(the old lady) or you have to much time to write a book on this thread.

What you should do is go help a doctor, isn't that what a CRNA does, or at least it should. If you read, I say "help," not due what a doctor does. That is the probelm in your field. Want want want want want want, more power and duties. If your field wants do much, go to med school and you can due due due due all you want. Maybe that way you would know why so many people are not happy with you on this thread, until you pay mal practice you will never get it.
 
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