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There are a couple threads from awhile back with people talking about going to UNT but did not give any details on the program. The school's Web site says nothing about a postbac - just has a few varying grad programs. I called the school and left a message but haven't heard anything back.

What's the title of the postbac program? How long is it? What's the curriculum? How hard is it to get in? ...various other questions.
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More browsing led to the program's actual page. I don't blame myself, as the page was hard to find. And some details are still unclear despite a remarkable number of words presumably devoted to giving details about the program. Also, the dates don't work for me. Nonetheless, here's the link to UNT's SMP-ish postbac:
http://www.hsc.unt.edu/Education/gsbs/medicalsciences.cfm
 
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I'm a predent but I've looked into this program. Don't know how hard it is to get into but apparently the online application is up. I emailed the Director of Admissions and she's been semi-helpful. Seems to only answer emails to easy questions and ignores emails that require more detail, like applicant success rates and such. HTH
 
Thanks for the info, as I am pretty much set on getting in to this program. I have a few brochures that they didn't have on their website, so I might scan them in and post them soon.
 
Im also interested in this program as a pre-dent student. According to the admissions, 25-50 students are accepted every cycle. I would like to know how successful a graduate from this program is, in getting into dental school...
 
Unfortunately, success rates aren't something they divulge, at least not when I asked. But I've spoken to someone who did the program and he highly recommends it. He took the post-bac classes and then applied them to a master's degree by tacking on an extra year of classes + a thesis.
 
Four said:
Thanks for the info, as I am pretty much set on getting in to this program. I have a few brochures that they didn't have on their website, so I might scan them in and post them soon.
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Where did you get their brochure? I don't see it listed on their site.
 
I got their brochure from one of their campus visits that they do. It is a year old because I've heard about this program for some time but it might say something not on the website.

I would also like to know some of their applicants scores and acceptance rates because that would mean having to apply to more programs for me 🙁
 
Ok, I looked up the courses offered in their post-bac curriculum. It turns out only one of them is a true med school class (anatomy), the rest seem to be focused on research, epidemiology, and the like. Although there is an mcat prep class and an application workshop thrown in there at the beginning.

It seems they cut out a lot of the classes where you would sit with med students. Which is really something I'm looking for.
 
i called and left a message without a response, so i emailed and got a response....but not of any help. I was directed to the website and told to call if i have any questions...
 
I thought this program was great. You take graduate level courses with the grad students such as biochemistry, cell biology, physiology and biostatistics. You do take anatomy with the medical students (unless that has changed recently) in the second semester. But this includes gross anatomy with cadavers, histology, and embryology. You attend those lectures with the medical students. Every year, they have slowly increased the size of the post bach program and more students are getting accepted into TCOM who completed the program. The biochem, cell bio, and physiology lectures you get in this program, you will also get while in your first year of medical school. It's the same professors, so you'll already know what to expect. The only thing you don't get is the clinical aspect. They accept a limited number of post bach students into TCOM. So you're going to be competing with your classmates. Although some will probably get accepted to other medical schools (but it varies year to year). 2 things they look at to determine whether they'll accept you in the following medical class is MCAT and Post bach program GPA. If you don't make >3.5 GPA average during the program, you won't be accepted into the next class at all. I would aim >3.7. A 3.9 or greater almost guarantees that you'll get in even if your MCAT score isn't that impressive.
As far as getting into the program, I'm not sure how competitive it's gotten now. But if you have a very high MCAT, they may not think you need to be in the program.
 
Ok..i might be able to help a little...im actually in the program right now..and i really think it has been great....the classes have been pretty challenging, and although for this semester we did not have classes with the medical students some have said that while we do not go as fast, that we do go into greater detail than they do for the biochem/cell stuff..so while our schedule is not as hectic as that of the med students, it is still challenging...also...those who have gotten into TCOM from the program so far are doing really well in medical school...this year we only have two pre-dental students, and i know one of them has gotten into dental school....as for the rest of us...there are a lot of competitive applicants for medical schools....so far i think we have three with pre-matches, but most have had multiple interviews...as far as success rate goes...those who do well seem to do pretty good as far as matriculation to some medical school...if not here then to other Texas schools and out of state schools...they also set you up with a preceptorship in the summer for a week and you can continue on through the rest of the year if you like...i have and feel that I have learned a lot...also...it is affordable which is nice...if you have any other Q's ill be around here and there..or send me a PM
 
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I'm a current 4th year medical student (not at TCOM) who completed the post-bacc program prior to matriculating to medical school. I'd be happy to answer any questions about the program anyone might have. Feel free to PM me.
 
Just a note for anyone looking into the UNTHSC (TCOM) post bac program. The school requires a 3.5 GPA for admittance to the med school. Because they calculate the grades based on the standard deviation from the class average, and the post bax class is separate from the other graduate students, about 2/3 of the class will never reach the required GPA. I would only sign up for this program again if I knew I would definetely score above most of my classmates. Although after PhD Gwirtz spoke to us it seems pretty clear why they calculate the grades among the post bacs that way. She came to our class soliciting for people who want to swap to the research side of the school. They will even accept 3.0 GPA students! (being sarcastic there). The bottom line is that you should be careful about the program. It is aimed at boosting their research departments, not the med school.
 
Well, although sidestepping Mr JohnW, I'd like to ask anyone who is currently in the program if you had to buy their laptop/tablet computer in order to be in the class. I know from the DO TCOM thread that they were required to buy the school's configured HP TC4400 and a PDA of their choice.

I'd like to know because I was planning on purchasing a new laptop when I entered the program, but if the grad school requires this and if other schools need this too, then I guess I'll have to sit out on this one.

EDIT - Question answered. It seems we don't need to buy a laptop on acceptance, so it should be ok.
 
JohnW399 said:
Just a note for anyone looking into the UNTHSC (TCOM) post bac program. The school requires a 3.5 GPA for admittance to the med school. Because they calculate the grades based on the standard deviation from the class average, and the post bax class is separate from the other graduate students, about 2/3 of the class will never reach the required GPA. I would only sign up for this program again if I knew I would definetely score above most of my classmates. Although after PhD Gwirtz spoke to us it seems pretty clear why they calculate the grades among the post bacs that way. She came to our class soliciting for people who want to swap to the research side of the school. They will even accept 3.0 GPA students! (being sarcastic there). The bottom line is that you should be careful about the program. It is aimed at boosting their research departments, not the med school.
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Is there a good alternative for those of us who need a boost for the next TMDSAS cycle? Is there another post-bacc program in Texas?
 
Apparently, TCOM is the only formal post-bac/SMP in TX, so you're free to do an informal one, but this is the only program you can really apply for.

Also, there is no reason as to why you can't apply to MD schools while doing this program. Sure TCOM is DO but the curriculum is well received, so TMDSAS will look highly on that.

JohnW also made the effort to spam that message across 3 separate threads, so I wonder how he feels about the program personally. If you ask me, it sounds like he just saw the facts online and did a little math without really going through the program.

I spoke with a TCOM representative and asked if this was true. He said that there is no "limit" per se on who can get GPAs of 3.5 or higher. Furthermore, a 3.5 GPA in the program simply allows you to apply to their link to TCOM program. It gives you a good chance and a probable interview, but it is by no means an acceptance, so I really believe everyone can get a 3.5 or higher if you're in this program. It won't end the same for everyone though.

Long story short, if you want to stay in TX, I'd apply now because the deadline is in like, 2 weeks?



Speaking of which, does anyone know when/how we get acceptances? I'm not even sure; I check online every other day but I doubt they would do it there.
 
Flushot said:
Apparently, TCOM is the only formal post-bac/SMP in TX, so you're free to do an informal one, but this is the only program you can really apply for.

Also, there is no reason as to why you can't apply to MD schools while doing this program. Sure TCOM is DO but the curriculum is well received, so TMDSAS will look highly on that.

JohnW also made the effort to spam that message across 3 separate threads, so I wonder how he feels about the program personally. If you ask me, it sounds like he just saw the facts online and did a little math without really going through the program.

I spoke with a TCOM representative and asked if this was true. He said that there is no "limit" per se on who can get GPAs of 3.5 or higher. Furthermore, a 3.5 GPA in the program simply allows you to apply to their link to TCOM program. It gives you a good chance and a probable interview, but it is by no means an acceptance, so I really believe everyone can get a 3.5 or higher if you're in this program. It won't end the same for everyone though.

Long story short, if you want to stay in TX, I'd apply now because the deadline is in like, 2 weeks?



Speaking of which, does anyone know when/how we get acceptances? I'm not even sure; I check online every other day but I doubt they would do it there.
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Well, that isn't entirely true. There is a post-bac program through Lamar University that is a "Non-degree, undergraduate, non-certificate-granting program" (under the AAMC workpage, look only at state TX) so it is a undergrad program, hence it will work toward your uGPA, as far as I can tell... please don't take my word on this for gospel... so it is a informal formal post-bac I guess. I would hope that AAMC wouldn't just put up a university on that page if all they do is offer upper-division BCMP classes. I sure as heck don't know, but it is something to think about if you need to raise your uGPA... I need a complete overhaul, but am working towards that at my current uni.

Hope this helps somewhat? 😕
 
From the UNTHSC GSBS website for the Premedical Post-Baccalaureate Program (http://www.hsc.unt.edu/Education/gsbs/medicalsciences.cfm):

... The Medical Science Admissions Committee will meet and decisions will be mailed out by April 21st. EIS application records will be updated before letters are mailed. Applicants may check their application records online at http://my.hsc.unt.edu starting April 21st for admissions decisions. No admissions decisions will be released by phone.
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If you were asking about TCOM admissions, that is through TMDSAS.

Yet again, hope this helps!

Nigh-Nigh time now, I am tie-tie 😴

 
Are you freaking serious? They wait until April 21st to tell us? But the program starts at the end of May! Absolutely no time to prepare.

Sucks too, because my roommate received his notice from EVMS in 2 weeks. I was hoping this would be the same.

Ugh, how horrifically disappointing. The wording in that quote suggests that they might have already made their decision about an applicant but you have to wait until April 21st to find out anyway. That's ridiculous. I can't believe I didn't see that either.
 
Just to give y'all a little info about the program from somebody that is in it...the post earlier that said the program was for boosting their research department was completely false. There are some who don't do well in the program and tranfer to the clinical research management as we take a lot of the same classes, but I have not heard of one person who has gone on to do a traditional PhD or Research masters from the program. Also, there were some who did not get into TCOM last year as they did not make a 3.5 GPA, but even some of them have gotten into the class of 2012. Basically, if you get in to the program, you automatically recieve an interview. If you get a 3.5, you have a very good chance at being accepted to TCOM for the following year. They took everybody with a 3.5 last year, and I think that was around 25 people.
 
I would imagine that the committee meets after the deadline to make decisions, so that is like a month turnaround. But IDK, I am not on the adcom nor am I even near that point in my studies.

I do agree however that they should do the admissions a little quicker, and that a month wait time for a program that starts that soon after admissions is :bullcrap:
 
Jmed, thanks for that note. It's good to know what really goes down and that 25 out of 55 sounds pretty good to me.

Wannabe, I suppose it does make sense since the deadline is March 24th, but I thought they were also rolling admissions since the representative told me that several seats were already take about a week before I was complete.

Oh well, I guess can't do much but wait, but they also need to realize that they could lose some excellent candidates this way. I mean, waiting until the program nearly starts means other programs will notify these candidates and offer seats. With a deposit placed, I'd hate to just give money to other programs and potentially screw other people who might want into another program that I haven't decided on yet.
 
Hey all,

I asked this question in a previous thread, but this is a good place to repeat since I'm really interested in TCOM's SMP. Does anyone know if taking an SMP at an osteopathic school is a liability when applying to allopathic medical school?
 
I would think not, because there is no evidence for such. Remember that you are earning a Masters regardless of the situation.

And these SMPs sometimes make the assumption that you want to link to the school you are at, and that may or may not be the case. Look into the schools before you send in the app and realize that they want you there.

I feel TCOM might be an exception because it is the only one in TX and there are many TX resident applicants that want to improve their app but stay in a TX allo program. In fact, when you fill out a TMDSAS, there is a section stating whether or not you complete the SMP so it'll look good either way.

At any rate, if you like a SMP but it is hosted at a DO school, go for it. And by liking it, you should realize if they want you to stay in house or not.
 
TCOM offered conditional acceptance to 10 students in SMP at the end of the Fall semester. Those folks had a GPA of 3.8 or better at the end of the fall semester...so they aren't making everyone wait until grades are finished in the spring!
 
Wow, 3.8 or better? That allows maybe 2 Bs, counting summer and fall. Ouch.

I figured like, I don't know, they start interviewing good candidates in August, before any grades are solid.

I'm thinking that some post-bac people will be pretty good candidates for TCOM regardless of post-bac grades, so I was hoping they would still be interviewed/considered for an invite outside of their post-bac deal. It seems like a shame for them to ignore and wait for these students to finish the program within their own school before offering them anything. Kind of strange.

By the way, in case anyone is wondering the post-bac online chat for TCOM is tonight at 6pm. It was postponed due to weather so I'll make a full report later. Hope to see some of you there!
 
Ok, lots of people in the chat, some even from my undergrad class 🙂 There was a lot of useful info, surprisingly, so I'll list it off, for my sake as well.
  • Deadline for App: March 24th; announce decisions by April 21st - this means NO rolling admissions, so it's not too late
  • Stats for last year: Average GPA = 3.3, MCAT = 26, Applicants = 180; Accepted = 55
  • Cost: Summer $2745 (6418) Fall .$1978 (6346) Spring $2453 (7830) - () is out of state tuition.
  • .Send in Financial Aid to UNTHSC right now! School code is 009768 or just look up UNTHSC in Fort Worth, TX
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  • .Summer: starts with biochem, biostats, MCAT prep, and doctor mentoring/preceptorship - since the shadowing is a class, you have to go, but they recommend shadowing other physicians as well.
  • .End of Fall: if you have 3.8 GPA, TCOM sends you in invite. Otherwise, you can still get interviews as a separate candidate from TMDSAS, at least from what I understood.
  • .Spring: Anatomy is with med students from TCOM - We get to dissect our own cadaver 😱.
  • .If you think you make the 3.5 GPA at the end of the Spring, you have until June to decide with TCOM, I think.
  • .TMDSAS Match is independent of the GSBS offer with the 3.5 GPA deal - actually not sure what they meant by this.
  • .Typical week - Mon: Test day (no test = no class) Tues-Fri: Fall: 8-10am and 2 night classes, Spring: 8-9am and Anatomy scheduled throughout.
  • .What if I don't get into med school during the program? Two choices mentioned: clinical management studies (6 extra months) or clinical research team (1 year+); during this time, apply again while working, but the whole 3.5 GPA deal is done.
That's basically what I got. I still don't understand how the 3.5 GPA deal works when TCOM can view a candidate in the MEDS/GSBS as a good candidate on her/his own. Isn't it frustrating to want to go to TCOM but not be sure if the 3.5 is set and get acceptances somewhere else? Isn't TCOM afraid it might lose good candidates this way by requiring the spring grades to come in?

I think there might be a way around this too, since TMDSAS is independent of this MEDS pact, but I really want to talk to someone over the phone or in person about it, because it still doesn't make sense.

Other than that, it was a fairly informative chat and I got a lot of questions answered. The TX schools do acknowledge the program highly, so don't think you're sealed to TCOM or DO by doing this. I feel this is a great option for both DO and MD.

One last note: some of the students in the chat, wanted to emphasize that the program is hard, and I'd like to re-emphasize that too. I feel that if I get in, this is it. I mean, if a MEDS student doesn't get into med school during the year, there are options, but I see it for me as my last chance. There are no more retries and seeing as how the class always loses a few at the end of fall, I see the difficulty. It's time to just go guns blazing with no reservations or thoughts of second chances. For many people, like myself, it's now, not later.
 
I clicked submit on my application on Monday. I did not receive an email saying they have received my application. Do they send you anything that says "thank you for your interest in our program blah blah blah...?" I went back to make sure my application went through, but when I searched for my application it wasn't there. I'm guessing it went through?
 
No, they do not send you a confirmation email. Just go to the application online and click on the My Status tab at the top. Either that or look on your To Do List.

I really think they need to revamp their online system, but right now, it is the only way to know.
 
It's been great following this thread. I'd like to ask someone for clarification on something. So if I understand correctly, you apply to this program in March and hear an answer in April? I'm applying in '09 to matriculate in '10 and will be applying on day 1, which I believe is May 15th. I've been told that applying early is helpful to an "average" applicant. At first I was going to apply and if I received no love then the following year apply to UNT's smp. Now I'm thinking I could do both the same season. Does this appear wishy washy to adcoms? Also, does anyone have any experience with going through this program and then gaining successful entry into other TX schools? Do most of thoses admitted in these programs develop a cutthroat attitude towards their peers or do people get together and study or help each other out? Do you have to be a brainiac (natural science wiz) to get the proper GPA (3.5+) or just put in enough study time each and every day?When/If I apply to this program I will be a paramedic. Would picking up 1 or 2 shifts a week in the UNT area hurt me or is it really too much with the studying I need to do? BTW, I'm 34 with a masters degree in history. My ug gpa willl be right at 3.0 (give or take 1/10th), and my science gpa is 3.5. Thanks for all the help.
 
Thought this might help some people.

anyways, I'm doing research right now at UT Houston med school. I'm currently shadowing a physician there, (going to clinics, pathology rounds, surgical rounds etc) Anyways turns out the Assistant Admissions Dean is in the same department as the physician I was shadowing. Long story short, I was able to ask the Assistant Admissions dean about SMPs in general.

He said, he personally didnt look at SMPs any different. Meaning no special treatment or anything. He went on to say, of course opinions vary from other admissions people, but he went on to say that only reason you should consider these SMPs is if they have an advantage at getting into their respective medical schools. I'm currently doing some post-bac work at UH, and he recommended that I continue on with that, and he looks more strongly at upward trends in GPA.

Hope this helps...
 
For the last poster:

I don't know what this means in terms of TCOM, but I'm getting that you or your dean believes that those that get into TCOM SMP should makes plan to go to TCOM. Furthermore, I also get that at other schools, the time spent on the SMP does not help the applicant. I believe this not to be the case generally as you mentioned, since it is just his opinion.

However, for most people here, we can't just put in another "upward trend" for our GPAs. That upward trend stuff only works in undergrad and when that's over, what do you think he would suggest? And not to be more of a negative vibe maker, but in order to see this upward trend in the first place, you'll have to pass the MCAT/GPA cutoff formula first. Trend or not, they want to see rock hard achievements front and center.

The SMP is there, right on TMDSAS. The schools know about it and you can talk about it. If this dean doesn't care about it, his peers probably will.

UH doesn't have a formal post-bac program, at least not one like TCOM's. These programs are looked at for a reason, being that some classes are concurrent with MS-1 classes. TCOM's anatomy class is with their MS-1s for example. That excites me. That gives me two chances to dissect, not just one. Just an example.


It's good that you're working things your way, but I don't see any problem with TCOM's program and seeking out an MD in TX or anywhere else. A bad undergrad is a bad undergrad forever.


@musashi: I don't understand your question, since you split in the middle: do you mean March for the SMP? Then May 15 for TMDSAS? Then that's close: the SMP at TCOM opens I think in Dec/January and TMDSAS accepts submissions in June 1st, but you can see the application in the beginning of May.

And there's no harm in applying to both. They won't know you did it and generally, people start applying to SMPs when they have a good idea they're not getting in anywhere. Besides, most of the time, you can put a deposit on the SMP and still wait for interviews.

As for working while at the SMP, I wouldn't do it. Not even part time will seem worth it because remember that this is a 1 year masters and you're taking classes similar and equal to medical students at TCOM. Would you even consider a job during medical school? Your choice, I guess.

EDIT - You should look at the post-bac GPA thread currently going around for more information. Unless you plan on doing at least 2 years of post-bac work, don't expect it to change your GPA substantially.
 
The night of the chat they kept saying that people will know for sure by April 21st. Does anyone know if they are ahead of schedule? Also, will we be notified by email or snail mail?
 
I called last week and the woman I spoke with said they're still processing applications, so the committee wont even sit down to review until around the 17th or so. We definitely wont find out any earlier than the 21st, but she assured me that it wont be any later either. I'm pretty sure you can find out their decision by logging in and checking your application status when the time comes. They probably send out a letter in the mail as well.
 
pianogirl0104 said:
Does anybody know if most people in this program go straight into medical school after completing it or do most have a glide year after completion? It would seem that since the only medical school class SMPers take doesn't even happen until the spring semester, then medical schools wont see their progress until long after acceptances have been given out. Of the people who go straight into medical school, were they already competitive enough and didnt actually need the SMP? Maybe the majority just go to TCOM and if I want to go elsewhere in the state I should pick a different SMP? Feel free to counter this...I'm just trying to reason things out in my head. I'm very interested in the program so I'd appreciate any input!
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Ok, here's their deal:

3.8 after the first semester = automatic invite. You still have to apply through TMDSAS like a normal applicant.

3.5 after second semester = automatic interview invite. To be honest, I still don't know how this works, because you don't have to tell them anything until the end of the semester.

The reason I was so confused by this is because let's say that a student is in the SMP and applying. If he/she is already a good candidate for TCOM, does this mean that TCOM will save the interview for later? Does this mean that it is not possible to get an acceptance through TMDSAS alone?

As strange as it seems, this was not directly answered in the chat so I'll have to go back to the transcript of the chat I made.

At any rate, you should just focus on doing well and apply early and broadly like every other person.

So they meet on the 17th? Assuming they don't work through the weekend, that's like 2 days to look at all the applications 😱 Granted, they're probably used to stacks of applications already, but I hope they can spend a good amount of time per app.
 
Georgio1234 said:
The Princeton Review class was a joke. Do not take if you can help it. It is an accelerated course, faster than the normal MCAT course that they give to normal students. They make you take it if you scored less than a 27 on the MCAT. If you want to go to TCOM, MCAT score does not matter in this program. People in that MCAT review course were accepted into TCOM even though they did not improve. Don't let it bother you if you can't improve, they don't care.
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Should we consider taking the MCAT course if we want a chance at any of the allopathic schools in TX?

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The spring. Wow! Well, everyone was upset that students with a 3.8 were given early acceptance. This was a split minute decision made by the school and was announced in January. 10 students were offered seats, ~5 accepted. Students that didn't accept the offer were accepted to other schools (I guess they didn't think UNT was right for them). The 5 that did accept... none of them were accepted to other schools.
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Did the students who didn't accept the offer of early acceptance to TCOM already have other plans or were they waiting it out for match day? If you're given an offer of early acceptance, can you take it and then decline later (ie after match day)? Why weren't the 5 that accepted the offer of early acceptance not accepted at other schools? Was it a conditional acceptance that didn't allow them to entertain the idea of other schools if they accepted TCOM's offer?

On another note, does UNTHSC send out letters of recommendation/transcripts during the fall semester to update the schools students have applied to while in the program? I'm wondering how many students end up having a "glide year" and what UNTHSC does to help those students as well as the students trying to avoid the glide year.

Thanks for your input! VERY much appreciated!
 
Georgio1234 said:
You can probably find a good job with the school because they work around your academic schedule and needs as a student.
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So I'm looking for a job at hospitals in Fort Worth right now, because my clinical work is not very extensive at this point. When you say you can find a job with the school do you mean in a medical setting or something else? Because that would be nice.
 
"Glide year" being a year between the completion of the program at UNTHSC and the beginning of medical school. So if you complete the program in May 2008 and start medical school in Fall 2009, you have a "glide year." Are most students in this "glide year" boat or do most have acceptances at medical schools and will be starting in Fall 2008?

It makes sense that the A&M rep says the program is only helpful after you've completed it, which is why I ask about the "glide year."

One more question: of the students who wait until after completion of the program to apply to medical school AND who do well in the UNTHSC program and are offered acceptance to TCOM in May, do you think they will take the TCOM acceptance to avoid the application process or will they risk losing their spot at TCOM in the hopes of acceptance elsewhere?

I hope this makes sense. Thank you again!
 
Georgio1234 said:
3.8 is not automatic invite. Even if students had a 3.8, some were not accepted.

You can make below a 3.5 and still be accepted.

And finally, it's no longer called Post bac, it is now switched to a full masters program, and your degree is called Masters in Medical Sciences.
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Well, that is quite different from what they told me. From your other posts, it seems that they say one thing and do another quite often, but none of those incidents seems too terrible.

That's interesting that they don't take attendance, but it's really only 2 hours, from 8-10am, right? I mean, this is just me, but I would consider going most of the times, simply because it's not too much to ask.

I'm glad you liked anatomy, since I'm looking forward to the full cadaver dissection. It's good to know we'll have time for that.

About those making it nowhere except TCOM and taking the acceptance: was this common knowledge among the students? What offers did you receive then? I'd be a little discouraged if I knew that just being in the program doesn't help the application, because I got the impression that it did. At any rate, it's a good thing to do during the glide year but many people are hoping for a match during their time in the SMP.


As for your making friends comment, I would say that about any competitive professional school. I was hoping that these SMPs would be different because they're smaller and we're all in similar situations, but I suppose not.


But thanks for the information. The thing is it's hard to differentiate because a few posts above you someone also said they're in the program, but there's no curve. I'm starting to get a little confused about the program, but I seriously just want someone to tell it to me straight and consistently.

EDIT - pianogirl, when we talked in the chat, I believe that you have to fill out a TMDSAS regardless if you want to be considered for the offer that TCOM's SMP gives. So if you didn't apply at all, they can't give you an offer, since you still have to interview and what not. That's what I was told, but then again, I'm not sure about anything anymore due to the testimonies in this thread.
 
For those of you waiting to hear back, I asked about a timetable and mode of notification. Here's what I got back:

You should be able to check your acceptance status on or before April 18 onlin). An e-mail will go out to all applicants letting you know that the status has been updated. Additionally, letters will be mailed out the following day.
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Anyone looking into housing yet or is it way too early for that?
 
Thanks bobsagat. Finding out 3 days earlier is pretty nice to hear.

As for housing, during the online chat, I asked if it was a problem since the program starts so soon after we find out. He said that UNT has a little social networking site that hosts a classified for housing, so it shouldn't be a problem. Also, don't forget to poke your head into the UNT thread on the pre-osteo if you need a roommate or something.

Honestly, I'm more concerned about finding a roommate than a place to stay. I'm certain I'll find a place, but I really want to keep costs down by living with at least 1 other person. Single efficiencies do exist around campus from what I heard, so if that's why you're looking for, it shouldn't be too late when it's our turn.
 
bobsagat said:
For those of you waiting to hear back, I asked about a timetable and mode of notification. Here's what I got back:



Anyone looking into housing yet or is it way too early for that?
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Gosh, I sure hope this new timetable is true. That would mean we could find out by next Friday! Thank you for sharing this. I too am EAGERLY awaiting word... 🙂
 
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