Kobe Bryant

This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.
Status
Not open for further replies.
Here are some more neurosurgeons that died in small plane crashes:
www.nj.com

Top N.J. neurosurgeon killed in Ohio plane crash Sunday

Hackensack University Medical CenterViswanathan Rajaraman, 54, of Franklin Lakes, was a top neurosurgeon at the Hackensack University Medical Center. Along with his wife, Rajaraman was killed in a plane crash earlier today. COLUMBUS, Ohio — A leading New Jersey neurosurgeon...
www.nj.com www.nj.com
www.justicenewsflash.com

FAA/NTSB to investigate plane crash that killed Birmingham, AL neurosurgeon - JusticeNewsFlash.com

Legal News for Florida Aviation Accident Attorneys. A vintage World War II plane crashed in the Florida panhandle, fatally injuring its two occupants.
www.justicenewsflash.com www.justicenewsflash.com

Kentucky Couple Killed In Plane Crash

A plane crash in central Kentucky killed a former Louisville physician and his wife.
www.wkyt.com www.wkyt.com
www.theledger.com

Crash Kills Prominent Surgeon

MEMPHIS, Tenn. -- Two people, one a prominent Florida neurosurgeon, died Wednesday when a small plane the doctor was flying flipped while landing at
www.theledger.com www.theledger.com
missoulian.com

Neurosurgeon killed in plane crash a 'giant' in his fieldPosted on April 21

BILLINGS - Dr. John Oakley's death leaves a void not only in his office, but in the field of chronic pain management in general, his peers said this week.
missoulian.com missoulian.com
 
Maybe this is a silly question, but why not fly with parachutes in these small planes? It seems like when crap starts to fail and go down one could possibly jump?
 
Unpopular opinion: I feel bad for the other people who died on that helicopter...including Kobe’s daughter, but I’ll always think of Kobe Bryant as a rapist.

Everybody dies. It’s the great equalizer.
 
GravelRider said:
Unpopular opinion: I feel bad for the other people who died on that helicopter...including Kobe’s daughter, but I’ll always think of Kobe Bryant as a rapist.

Everybody dies. It’s the great equalizer.
Click to expand...

As a non NBA fan, I have been fascinated by watching athletes and celebrities prostrating themselves on TV, weeping, hailing Kobe a ‘genius’. Some of them probably meant what they said, others probably had other motives.

The week before the super bowl is usually dominated by media days and interviews, but ESPN has been nonstop Kobe. I’m sure this pisses off the NFL to no end. While he was obviously very famous, I can’t remember that many people whose deaths dominated the media for a full week. Princess Diana, Michael Jackson, and Ronald Reagan are the only ones I can remember in my lifetime. I would argue Kobe was not as famous as any of them, although the suddenness and fact that his daughter was with him maybe played a role in how much press this has gotten.
 
ambiturner said:
As a non NBA fan, I have been fascinated by watching athletes and celebrities prostrating themselves on TV, weeping, hailing Kobe a ‘genius’. Some of them probably meant what they said, others probably had other motives.

The week before the super bowl is usually dominated by media days and interviews, but ESPN has been nonstop Kobe. I’m sure this pisses off the NFL to no end. While he was obviously very famous, I can’t remember that many people whose deaths dominated the media for a full week. Princess Diana, Michael Jackson, and Ronald Reagan are the only ones I can remember in my lifetime. I would argue Kobe was not as famous as any of them, although the suddenness and fact that his daughter was with him maybe played a role in how much press this has gotten.
Click to expand...
Kobe was not famous as any of them? You have no clue my friend. The only person on that list is Michael Jackson. Kobe is well I owned all over the world. Dudes jersey sold out multiple times in Asia. I grew up in Africa and then moved to England, and I can tell you, non of those places cared or even knew who Regan was.
NFL can be pissed all they want, you are talking about an athlete that transcended basketball. An athlete that was way more skilled than any other player in his current generation.
 
GravelRider said:
Unpopular opinion: I feel bad for the other people who died on that helicopter...including Kobe’s daughter, but I’ll always think of Kobe Bryant as a rapist.

Everybody dies. It’s the great equalizer.
Click to expand...
You convicted him as a rapist? Or where you the woman who cried wolf during the encounter in Colorado.
 
ambiturner said:
As a non NBA fan, I have been fascinated by watching athletes and celebrities prostrating themselves on TV, weeping, hailing Kobe a ‘genius’. Some of them probably meant what they said, others probably had other motives.

The week before the super bowl is usually dominated by media days and interviews, but ESPN has been nonstop Kobe. I’m sure this pisses off the NFL to no end. While he was obviously very famous, I can’t remember that many people whose deaths dominated the media for a full week. Princess Diana, Michael Jackson, and Ronald Reagan are the only ones I can remember in my lifetime. I would argue Kobe was not as famous as any of them, although the suddenness and fact that his daughter was with him maybe played a role in how much press this has gotten.
Click to expand...

Those people are just using the event to “cash in.” It’s a way to drum up “likes” and some “thumbs up.” It’s pathetic. Kobe was not a genius. He benefitted from society’s obsession with sport. What did he do to benefit mankind? He was a rapist who was skilled at throwing a ball into a hoop. Consider me unimpressed.


Slatches said:
You convicted him as a rapist? Or where you the woman who cried wolf during the encounter in Colorado.
Click to expand...

Make sure you read the whole story. There was a lot of media spin. The Los Angeles Lakers had a lot to lose. Let me just say, I did not shed a tear when I heard that the rapist died.
 
chocomorsel said:
Maybe this is a silly question, but why not fly with parachutes in these small planes? It seems like when crap starts to fail and go down one could possibly jump?
Click to expand...
Most often these crashes are of the sort where the pilot's last thought is "saaay, what's a mountain goat doing way up here in a cloud bank" and not "I wish I could get out right now" ...

Usually the better option is to glide the plane or autorotate the helicopter to the ground and walk away. Or the time is better spent troubleshooting the problem than trying to put on a big backback and then open a door that's not designed to open when 100 mph wind is pressing it closed.


Edit - credit where credit is due:

ekqU1e7.jpeg
 
The status sportsmen acheive is disproportionate to their social "value". What happened between Kobe and the woman in Colorado... only she knows now but Magic Johnson didn't catch hiv by signing autographs...
What's mind boggling is the amount of money pumped into the sports world. We can dream of what would happen if we outlawed pro sports, promoted amateur sports and put the money to better social uses.
 
pgg said:
Indeed 🙂

Used to be someone's .sig around here.
Click to expand...
Yeah, that's where I learned (or learnt) it.

'The first thing Michael Phelps should have done when that photo came out was call Kobe Bryant's publicist. Cuz Kobe was accused of rape, and all he had to do was settle in court for millions of dollars, change his jersey number and win a championship and that soulless town in LA couldn't be prouder. I just hope that when parents let their kids run around in #24 jerseys, they have the decency to say: 'well come on, number 8 was the rapist.'
 
dhb said:
The status sportsmen acheive is disproportionate to their social "value". What happened between Kobe and the woman in Colorado... only she knows now but Magic Johnson didn't catch hiv by signing autographs...
What's mind boggling is the amount of money pumped into the sports world. We can dream of what would happen if we outlawed pro sports, promoted amateur sports and put the money to better social uses.
Click to expand...

If we outlawed pro sports all the money would just go back into a lobby called "Bring Back Pro Sports LLC"
 
dhb said:
The status sportsmen acheive is disproportionate to their social "value". What happened between Kobe and the woman in Colorado... only she knows now but Magic Johnson didn't catch hiv by signing autographs...
What's mind boggling is the amount of money pumped into the sports world. We can dream of what would happen if we outlawed pro sports, promoted amateur sports and put the money to better social uses.
Click to expand...

That's silly.

First off, there wouldn't be any money. It's not like there's a big pot of cash someplace labeled "can only be spent on sports"[1] ... if you outlawed pro sports there would be no pro sport ticket revenue, pro sport merchandize sales, pro sport athlete endorsements driving shaving cream sales.

I can't stand to watch college football, because the players suck. They do. (Admit it, fans, you watch for nostalgic reasons because you went to that school or something, not because that sophomore wide receiver only drops 30% of the balls that don't get intercepted on the way to him.) Amateur sports are only interesting to the amateurs playing them. And perhaps the mothers of the amateurs playing them. But I digress.

The simple truth is that lots and lots and lots of people like to watch pro sports, and they like to spend money on tickets and TV subscriptions and the stuff that gets advertised during the games. Are atheletes overpaid? Well, who else deserves a slice of that money more than the athletes playing the game and entertaining the fans? The corporation that owns the team?

Oh, wait. We actually run that scenario! It's called the NCAA, aka "amateur sports" where the athletes who actually play and entertain people get essentially nothing, but virtually everyone else makes tons of money.

I don't know if Kobe was a good guy or a bad guy or if he really raped that woman or not, but nobody deserved his paycheck more than he did.

Your idea is silly.



[1] Well publicly funded stadiums might or might not actually be that pot, but that's a wholly separate issue from player paychecks.
 
pgg said:
That's silly.

First off, there wouldn't be any money. It's not like there's a big pot of cash someplace labeled "can only be spent on sports"[1] ... if you outlawed pro sports there would be no pro sport ticket revenue, pro sport merchandize sales, pro sport athlete endorsements driving shaving cream sales.

I can't stand to watch college football, because the players suck. They do. (Admit it, fans, you watch for nostalgic reasons because you went to that school or something, not because that sophomore wide receiver only drops 30% of the balls that don't get intercepted on the way to him.) Amateur sports are only interesting to the amateurs playing them. And perhaps the mothers of the amateurs playing them. But I digress.

The simple truth is that lots and lots and lots of people like to watch pro sports, and they like to spend money on tickets and TV subscriptions and the stuff that gets advertised during the games. Are atheletes overpaid? Well, who else deserves a slice of that money more than the athletes playing the game and entertaining the fans? The corporation that owns the team?

Oh, wait. We actually run that scenario! It's called the NCAA, aka "amateur sports" where the athletes who actually play and entertain people get essentially nothing, but virtually everyone else makes tons of money.

I don't know if Kobe was a good guy or a bad guy or if he really raped that woman or not, but nobody deserved his paycheck more than he did.

Your idea is silly.



[1] Well publicly funded stadiums might or might not actually be that pot, but that's a wholly separate issue from player paychecks.
Click to expand...

People say doctors make too much money.

The sad reality is our pay is controlled by government and insurance companies.

Why are NBA salaries increasing but doctors pay is stagnating?
 
Mikkel said:
People say doctors make too much money.

The sad reality is our pay is controlled by government and insurance companies.

Why are NBA salaries increasing but doctors pay is stagnating?
Click to expand...
Adam Silver just released that the NBA salary cap for 2020-2021 season is decreasing due to decreased revenue. Might want to stay current on your information if you're complaining.
 
Mikkel said:
People say doctors make too much money.

The sad reality is our pay is controlled by government and insurance companies.

Why are NBA salaries increasing but doctors pay is stagnating?
Click to expand...
Is this a rhetorical questions? I assume so but I'm not sure where you're going with it.

Those tickets were sold because of Kobe. Those jerseys were sold because of Kobe. Those broadcast deals between the NBA and ESPN and Fox/etc were made because of Kobe. I don't know what endorsement deals he had, but whatever product he was shilling, they sold a bunch of them because of Kobe. It's only right and fair that Kobe got paid, and free market capitalism signed his checks.

Doctors don't work in a free market, as you point out. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with the comparison.
 
chocomorsel said:
So now you know the woman? And you know for a fact that she cried wolf?
GTFOOH!
Click to expand...
What was the outcome of the case? Was he found guilty? Before you say GTFOH, watch your self. I’m not your typical guy, you don’t want to do this. I don’t get into key board warrior-type moves. If you want to step up we set a location. Try me!!
 
pgg said:
That's silly.

First off, there wouldn't be any money. It's not like there's a big pot of cash someplace labeled "can only be spent on sports"[1] ... if you outlawed pro sports there would be no pro sport ticket revenue, pro sport merchandize sales, pro sport athlete endorsements driving shaving cream sales.

I can't stand to watch college football, because the players suck. They do. (Admit it, fans, you watch for nostalgic reasons because you went to that school or something, not because that sophomore wide receiver only drops 30% of the balls that don't get intercepted on the way to him.) Amateur sports are only interesting to the amateurs playing them. And perhaps the mothers of the amateurs playing them. But I digress.

The simple truth is that lots and lots and lots of people like to watch pro sports, and they like to spend money on tickets and TV subscriptions and the stuff that gets advertised during the games. Are atheletes overpaid? Well, who else deserves a slice of that money more than the athletes playing the game and entertaining the fans? The corporation that owns the team?

Oh, wait. We actually run that scenario! It's called the NCAA, aka "amateur sports" where the athletes who actually play and entertain people get essentially nothing, but virtually everyone else makes tons of money.

I don't know if Kobe was a good guy or a bad guy or if he really raped that woman or not, but nobody deserved his paycheck more than he did.

Your idea is silly.



[1] Well publicly funded stadiums might or might not actually be that pot, but that's a wholly separate issue from player paychecks.
Click to expand...
Well said!
Seems like This thread was made to point figure at a dead man, who for the most part of his life was to ball and entertain millions and millions of fans around the world. Who cares about the Colorado case? He wasn’t convicted and even if he did, he may have showed remorse. A complete family guy is what he was.

It’s ridiculous when you think you think of how much athletes make but that’s the world we live in. We as humans have placed more emphasis on entertainment and those doing the entertaining.
 
pgg said:
Is this a rhetorical questions? I assume so but I'm not sure where you're going with it.

Those tickets were sold because of Kobe. Those jerseys were sold because of Kobe. Those broadcast deals between the NBA and ESPN and Fox/etc were made because of Kobe. I don't know what endorsement deals he had, but whatever product he was shilling, they sold a bunch of them because of Kobe. It's only right and fair that Kobe got paid, and free market capitalism signed his checks.

Doctors don't work in a free market, as you point out. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with the comparison.
Click to expand...

My point is that doctors don't exist in a free market unfortunately.

We've surrendered our value over to administrators and business owners.
 
  • Like
Reactions: pgg
Apollyon said:
Yeah, that's where I learned (or learnt) it.

'The first thing Michael Phelps should have done when that photo came out was call Kobe Bryant's publicist. Cuz Kobe was accused of rape, and all he had to do was settle in court for millions of dollars, change his jersey number and win a championship and that soulless town in LA couldn't be prouder. I just hope that when parents let their kids run around in #24 jerseys, they have the decency to say: 'well come on, number 8 was the rapist.'
Click to expand...
So you think the other athletes who’s jersey your kids wear are on a moral high horse?

You saw him walk in and rape the girl didn’t ya. Just like you saw 2pac, and other high profile black athletes. You should have posted a thread on Rape cases while these folks where alive not when a man falls asleep in death and the world is trying to remember the positives.

seriously, get lost!!
 
GravelRider said:
Those people are just using the event to “cash in.” It’s a way to drum up “likes” and some “thumbs up.” It’s pathetic. Kobe was not a genius. He benefitted from society’s obsession with sport. What did he do to benefit mankind? He was a rapist who was skilled at throwing a ball into a hoop. Consider me unimpressed.




Make sure you read the whole story. There was a lot of media spin. The Los Angeles Lakers had a lot to lose. Let me just say, I did not shed a tear when I heard that the rapist died.
Click to expand...
Of course you didn’t you cold blooded clown. I’m assuming you are a doctor right?

I don’t need to read a story. A young Kobe made mistakes and the man was far different from who he was at that time. You have no idea if he asked for forgiveness later on in life. Bottom line he was not convicted in the court of law.
Another white woman says she was raped by a black athlete. Get lost! Nobody cares if you cried or not. Your comment makes you look unsympathetic and you are a doctor? Hahaha, here we go. The millions of fans who mourn is what matters. Let’s see who remembers you when you expire.
 
pgg said:
First off, there wouldn't be any money. It's not like there's a big pot of cash someplace labeled "can only be spent on sports"[1] ...
Click to expand...
Yes there actually is a big pot of cash with that exact label.
To my knowledge the NBA isn't printing US dollars so the money is coming from somewhere.
My point, which you seem to have missed, is that the incredible amount of money spent on pro-sports might have a better social use.
 
Slatches said:
So you think the other athletes who’s jersey your kids wear are on a moral high horse?

You saw him walk in and rape the girl didn’t ya. Just like you saw 2pac, and other high profile black athletes. You should have posted a thread on Rape cases while these folks where alive not when a man falls asleep in death and the world is trying to remember the positives.

seriously, get lost!!
Click to expand...
Slatches said:
Of course you didn’t you cold blooded clown. I’m assuming you are a doctor right?

I don’t need to read a story. A young Kobe made mistakes and the man was far different from who he was at that time. You have no idea if he asked for forgiveness later on in life. Bottom line he was not convicted in the court of law.
Another white woman says she was raped by a black athlete. Get lost! Nobody cares if you cried or not. Your comment makes you look unsympathetic and you are a doctor? Hahaha, here we go. The millions of fans who mourn is what matters. Let’s see who remembers you when you expire.
Click to expand...
You seem to be fixating on race
 
dhb said:
Yes there actually is a big pot of cash with that exact label.
To my knowledge the NBA isn't printing US dollars so the money is coming from somewhere.
My point, which you seem to have missed, is that the incredible amount of money spent on pro-sports might have a better social use.
Click to expand...

OpioidDeathsByTypeUS.PNG


Pro-sports try to fill a hole in the hearts of millions of men.

Enormous amounts of hard earned cash are spent on tickets and merchandise.

Kids grow up with absent fathers or missing fathers.

50,000 men die by suicide in 2018.

Single parent households are extremely prevalent.

Rate of death by opioid overdose is staggering.

People spend more time on Facebook than looking at the people in their life face to face.

It's all terrible. We have to look out for ourselves first and rid our families of addictions. I consider pro sports addiction as a real addiction. Among many others including social media.
 
At the college I went to we had these safety assemblies before breaks that essentially amounted to don’t drink and drive, don’t do drugs, don’t rape each other, etc. And there would usually be a guest speaker, for example one of the don’t do drugs ones was a comedian whose brother had destroyed his life with drugs and eventually killed himself.

Anyways, one of the don’t rape each other ones the guest speaker was one of the prosecutors from the case before it was dismissed. She presented some of the evidence that was deemed inadmissible and was not publicly available. This included pictures, video, time stamps, etc.

While—if you are familiar with the case in detail—there are certainly some fishy things about the accuser and her actions after the fact, you can ask any of the 4000 people there that day who saw that additional evidence, and they will tell you without a shred of uncertainty that what transpired at that hotel was rape with a capital R.

Still sad about the crash though. Two wrongs don’t make anything right.
 
sb247 said:
You seem to be fixating on race
Click to expand...
Not fixated and if you think race isn’t any issue then you are just another idiot and I’ll stop talking back. I’m basically saying the a lot of high profile black athletes have been targeted for **** like this. Are some guilty yes, are others innocent yes. Should we go back into America’s history? Man whoever you are just go, I am worried the more you comment the more you reveal yourself. But, kudos to you, you can do this behind a screen!
 
Slatches said:
Not fixated and if you think race isn’t any issue then you are just another idiot and I’ll stop talking back. I’m basically saying the a lot of high profile black athletes have been targeted for **** like this. Are some guilty yes, are others innocent yes. Should we go back into America’s history? Man whoever you are just go, I am worried the more you comment the more you reveal yourself. But, kudos to you, you can do this behind a screen!
Click to expand...
What are you talking about
 
dhb said:
Yes there actually is a big pot of cash with that exact label.
To my knowledge the NBA isn't printing US dollars so the money is coming from somewhere.
My point, which you seem to have missed, is that the incredible amount of money spent on pro-sports might have a better social use.
Click to expand...
What are you talking about
 
dhb said:
Yes there actually is a big pot of cash with that exact label.
To my knowledge the NBA isn't printing US dollars so the money is coming from somewhere.
My point, which you seem to have missed, is that the incredible amount of money spent on pro-sports might have a better social use.
Click to expand...
OK, I'll try again

The NBA isn't printing money. They're collecting money that people spend on tickets and merchandise.

What are you suggesting? That if we somehow ban pro sports that those people will decide to spend their discretionary income and entertainment dollars on ... soup kitchens?

How exactly would that work? It sounds like you think the government should have a much larger role in telling people what they're allowed to like and spend their money on.

Or are you just casually lamenting that humans spend money on dumb stuff to pass the time? Seriously what are you talking about?
 
pgg said:
OK, I'll try again

The NBA isn't printing money. They're collecting money that people spend on tickets and merchandise.

What are you suggesting? That if we somehow ban pro sports that those people will decide to spend their discretionary income and entertainment dollars on ... soup kitchens?

How exactly would that work? It sounds like you think the government should have a much larger role in telling people what they're allowed to like and spend their money on.

Or are you just casually lamenting that humans spend money on dumb stuff to pass the time? Seriously what are you talking about?
Click to expand...
I'm saying the money spent on profesionnal sports would exist without them and yes hypothetically could be used in better ways.
 
SaltyDog said:
Are you threatening to fight a woman? 😵
Click to expand...
Aren’t women and men equal? Now you want to pull the woman card because you are on a forum.
In real life, if you run your mouth you better back it up or get it.

Besides, how will I know if you are woman or man or both? You are hiding behind a screen and that’s why I encourage anyone who wants an exchange with me to do it in person.

I am not on here to offend anyone but if you come at me I’ll put you in your place! ✌
 
Slatches said:
Aren’t women and men equal? Now you want to pull the woman card because you are on a forum.
In real life, if you run your mouth you better back it up or get it.

Besides, how will I know if you are woman or man or both? You are hiding behind a screen and that’s why I encourage anyone who wants an exchange with me to do it in person.

I am not on here to offend anyone but if you come at me I’ll put you in your place! ✌
Click to expand...


It appears that you're new to this forum. Before coming in hot, perhaps an introduction would be polite.

You know, something along the lines of:

Hi, I'm Dr. Slatches. I'm a student/resident/attending in X specialty practicing in the (insert general geographic region here). When I'm not being a douchebag on the internet I enjoy . . .
 
SaltyDog said:
It appears that you're new to this forum. Before coming in hot, perhaps an introduction would be polite.

You know, something along the lines of:

Hi, I'm Dr. Slatches. I'm a student/resident/attending in X specialty practicing in the (insert general geographic region here). When I'm not being a douchebag on the internet I enjoy . . .
Click to expand...
Far from new! Don’t let the “2+ year” member thing fool you. I have been on sdn since 2010 but not until recently I decided I’ll chime in and post a comment because I couldn’t stand some of the bs I read sometimes. Want to call me new again?

Explain to me how I was impolite? when a fellow member told me to “GTFOOH”. And you think I’ll not reply back? Come on son, gimme a break. Yet, you come on here and tell me to introduce myself. Let’s shake hands physically and I’ll introduce myself to you.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

L
Kobe analogy
Replies
13
Views
2K
Neopolymath
Neopolymath
Top