lawsuit against PR by AAMC

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Did you guys see this? Interesting, at least....

 

[Amit1]

yeah, its old news

 

[doctorperez]

Sooo!

Princeton has been giving its clients an unfair advantage when compared to the rest of us who never accessed those questions. So much for a standardizing tool!....

 

[Amit1]

Originally posted by doctorperez
Sooo!

Princeton has been giving its clients an unfair advantage when compared to the rest of us who never accessed those questions. So much for a standardizing tool!....

Calm down homes, all the test companies do this to gather material to write their own tests. PR just happened to get caught.

If TPR kids actually had some kind of significant advantage people would have caught on by now, especially SDNers.

 

[doctorperez]

Originally posted by Amit1
Calm down homes, all the test companies do this to gather material to write their own tests. PR just happened to get caught.

If TPR kids actually had some kind of significant advantage people would have caught on by now, especially SDNers.

Ok so you pay for \TPR get to study and see AAMC test questions , now bring in JOhn Doe who did not get TPR and both take the test , and you say that is not a significant advantage? 😕

 

[chameleonknight]

Well, guess that settles it...I'm signing up for TPR. 😀

 

[Amit1]

Originally posted by doctorperez
Ok so you pay for \TPR get to study and see AAMC test questions , now bring in JOhn Doe who did not get TPR and both take the test , and you say that is not a significant advantage? 😕

Doctorperez, you don't know what you are talking about and you inadvertantly got the poor chameleonknight all excited

Students never get to see these questions. Only some instructors and the practice test writers at TPR get to see these questions. If AAMC saw TPR printing their questions they would have a lawsuit for copywright infringement as well as a slew of other suits as well.

Like I said, all test companies use this tactic to get info to write practice tests and so instructors can have another crack at the exam. No students get to look at any unautherized AAMC material. Only 3r, 4r, 5r and 6r just like anybody else.

So "JOhn Doe" would be on equal playing ground

Please read the information before making up your own stories and using the "jump to conclusions mat".

 

[doctorperez]

Originally posted by Amit1
Doctorperez, you don't know what you are talking about

Only some instructors and the practice test writers at TPR get to see these questions.


So "JOhn Doe" would be on equal playing ground

All right,

let us take another shot at this. So "some" instructors and the test makers at TPR get to see the questions and go on and teach and make sample tests for TPR students after studying these questions and you say there is no unfair advantage...?

If you believe that amit I have some ocean front property in Montana to sell you... 😀

 

[Amit1]

Originally posted by doctorperez
All right,

let us take another shot at this. So "some" instructors and the test makers at TPR get to see the questions and go on and teach and make sample tests for TPR students after studying these questions and you say there is no unfair advantage...?

If you believe that amit I have some ocean front property in Montana to sell you... 😀

Dude, give it a rest. I've proven you wrong over and over. You seriously have no clue. You are the only one on SDN arguing this moot point. Like ive said THREE times - ALL test companies use this tactic.

Man, you have a thick skull.

If TPR kids had an advantage over other test companies then those other companies would be out of business pretty quickly. In fact Examkrackers is regarded as the best company for MCAT prep. TPR kids don't have an advantage over any other company's prep.

Either way I think you are scoring low on the MCAT and just looking for a scapegoat.

The funniest thing is that you thought that TPR kids got to see these tapped questions

doctorperez

 

[doctorperez]

Originally posted by Amit1
Dude, give it a rest. I've proven you wrong over and over.

Yeah right!

You seriously have no clue. You are the only one on SDN arguing this moot point.

So?

Like ive said THREE times - ALL test companies use this tactic.

Man, you have a thick skull.

Not as thick as yours if you can not realize I never compared TPR with other companies.

If TPR kids had an advantage over other test companies then those other companies would be out of business pretty quickly. In fact Examkrackers is regarded as the best company for MCAT prep. TPR kids don't have an advantage over any other company's prep.

Can I say "THICKNESS"?

Either way I think you are scoring low on the MCAT and just looking for a scapegoat.

Sure it is so low the two places I applied to interviewed me, even though I applied late...

The funniest thing is that you thought that TPR kids got to see these tapped questions

doctorperez

Not as funny as your tangential argument of determining whether TPR students have an advantage by comparing it to other test prep. companies, which as you said use the same tactics as TPR.

😀

 

[Amit1]

You assclown, you have no point.

Everyone uses material from test companies to study for the MCAT. All test companies tap the MCAT in some form. TPR kids don't have an advantage over anybody else.

Damn, you are a ******.

How can I reply to such excellent rebuttals such as "So?" and "Yeah Right!"?

Your original point (TPR kids get to look at unreleased AAMC questions) was invalid so you started searching for an argument and just ended up looking stupid.

 

[djjj08]

 

[DrLady]

Nice!

I love it that this forum is beginning to look like pre-allo and any other forum where any post can create ridiculous arguments and name calling begins in full force!

 

[Amit1]

Thank you, I do what I can 😀

 

[doctorperez]

Originally posted by Amit1
You assclown, you have no point.

Everyone uses material from test companies to study for the MCAT. All test companies tap the MCAT in some form. TPR kids don't have an advantage over anybody else.

Where is the proof EVERYONE uses material from test companies?

How can I reply to such excellent rebuttals such as "So?" and "Yeah Right!"?

perhaps so that by your use of name calling you can make a projection of how you feel about yourself and somehow this must make you feel somewhat better.

Your original point (TPR kids get to look at unreleased AAMC questions) was invalid so you started searching for an argument and just ended up looking stupid.

That is not my original point, and that is easy to see. I will paraphrase for you as a courtesy. The point is: by TPR (or anyone else) having access to more than 100 questions, of a 200 and a bunch questions , while there are thousands of students who do not, can not, wish not, to purchase test company materials, they create a disadvantage for those students who do not, can not, wish not, to purchase test company materials. Furthermore, it renders the use of the MCAT as a standardizing tool useless.




😛

 

[Amit1]

Originally posted by doctorperez
Where is the proof EVERYONE uses material from test companies?



perhaps so that by your use of name calling you can make a projection of how you feel about yourself and somehow this must make you feel somewhat better.




That is not my original point, and that is easy to see. I will paraphrase for you as a courtesy. The point is: by TPR (or anyone else) having access to more than 100 questions, of a 200 and a bunch questions , while there are thousands of students who do not, can not, wish not, to purchase test company materials, they create a disadvantage for those students who do not, can not, wish not, to purchase test company materials. Furthermore, it renders the use of the MCAT as a standardizing tool useless.




😛 [/B]

WHAT???? So you are saying that people take the MCAT without looking at any testprep material by any company? What are you smoking?

Nobody takes the MCAT blind, and if they do they are bound to bomb it. So now you have changed your argument to "its not fair for students who have not looked at ANY test prep material because they are at a disadvantage". 🙄

Quote doctorperez: "Sooo!

Princeton has been giving its clients an unfair advantage when compared to the rest of us who never accessed those questions."

Your original point is that you thought that TPR was giving away unpublished AAMC material to their students. When you were corrected, you started making an argument that students who have not studied with prep material are at an unfair disadvantage. You are stretching it. What are you going to say next? Students who did not go to college are at an unfair disadvantage for the MCAT???

If you think that the test prep materials are such a big secret why don't you invest a few bucks like everyone else on this board and buy some. Its not a secret that test prep material help you out. So don't go out and call your local news channel and tell them that testprep material gives students an advantage on the MCAT.

Students can't afford these materials??? They come up used on this site all the time. If you can't afford buying used test prep material then you could not have afforded to go to undergrad and wouldn't be eligible for med school anyhow.

And the smoking gun: I searched to see if you were actually as dumb as you sounded and didn't use any test prep material, it turns out that you actually used TPR. What a surprise! So you yourself had "an unfair advantage", yet you still couldn't get into med school. Now you are out to prosecute the MCAT and Prep Companies (which you yourself have used) saying that it is unfair.

If I was rejected so many times I guess I would look for a scapegoat too.

Too bad you will never live up to your screen name.

 

[closertofine]

Originally posted by Amit1

And the smoking gun: I searched to see if you were actually as dumb as you sounded and didn't use any test prep material, it turns out that you actually used TPR. What a surprise! So you yourself had "an unfair advantage", yet you still couldn't get into med school. Now you are out to prosecute the MCAT and Prep Companies (which you yourself have used) saying that it is unfair.

If I was rejected so many times I guess I would look for a scapegoat too.

Too bad you will never live up to your screen name.

Whoa, seriously, personal insults are not cool. I don't care who started it...ok, I sound like someone's mother now...so both of you, go to your room and spend some time thinking about the consequences of your comments! 😉 Really, though, enough is enough.

 

[doctorperez]

Originally posted by Amit1
WHAT???? So you are saying that people take the MCAT without looking at any testprep material by any company? What are you smoking?

It is not my idea, look at page 31 of the 2000-2001 MCAT announcemente booklet "In preparing for the MCAT, SOME candidates enroll, at considerable expense, in courses offered by commercial firms... " further down they state "it is not generally advantageous" Don't believe it, read this then (the section on Preparation)

Nobody takes the MCAT blind, and if they do they are bound to bomb it.

The AAMC thinks otherwise, so as much as it may hurt you You are wrong!

So now you have changed your argument

No, you are pretending I did to justify your senseless defense.

Quote doctorperez: "Sooo!

Princeton has been giving its clients an unfair advantage when compared to the rest of us who never accessed those questions."

There you go, my point precisely. TPR (and anyone else who in a criminal way copied MCAT questions) gives an unfair advantage and makes the MCAT useless.

Students can't afford these materials??? They come up used on this site all the time. If you can't afford buying used test prep material then you could not have afforded to go to undergrad and wouldn't be eligible for med school anyhow.

Now that is some illogical argument - equating acquisitive power with eligibility to medical school.

And for your surprise, yes there are some people who attend undergrad and yet can not afford such things.

And the smoking gun: I searched to see if you were actually as dumb as you sounded and didn't use any test prep material, it turns out that you actually used TPR. What a surprise! So you yourself had "an unfair advantage", yet you still couldn't get into med school (after three years of trying, despite your URM status). Now you are out to prosecute the MCAT and Prep Companies (which you yourself have used) saying that it is unfair.

Now let me see how to get further entertained with your ridiculous attempt to divert your analitical incapacities by attacking me personally. Yes, I will beging by asking you to give me the proof I used TPR .

Also, give me proof I applied 3 times to medical school, or that I was rejected 3 times?

And I will finish by saying, even if I used any commercial preparation course, that does not defeat the point that these companies make the MCAT useless and give an unfair disadvantage and that is precisely why the AAMC is after them.

Too bad you will never live up to your screen name.

Just because you say so 😀




Now since you have to resort to ol' tabloid spy tactics, I will give you a spoon of your own medicine "Watch it, lest you have to poo poo in your pants"

 

[Amit1]

It boils down to this: You say that anybody who has used any test prep material has an unfair advantage.

I think thats silly, especially to call it unfair when everyone has access to it.

(you yourself have used TPR materials according to your old posts)

Lets not perpetuate this.