legality md aligne or other internet doctors?

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i have this patient who apparently uses an online dr. service. She gets tramadol and norco from this online website. She just pays her fee and does an online// phone examination. every script she gets is from a different doctor from a different state. all from through this website. she then presents with a printable insurance card good for free meds. i called our help desk and apparently the reimbursement is GOOD. we made 20 dollars off a 4 dollar med. money is good but is this legal? My gut says no. but my DM says its a grey area. what do you guys think?
 
i have this patient who apparently uses an online dr. service. She gets tramadol and norco from this online website. She just pays her fee and does an online// phone examination. every script she gets is from a different doctor from a different state. all from through this website. she then presents with a printable insurance card good for free meds. i called our help desk and apparently the reimbursement is GOOD. we made 20 dollars off a 4 dollar med. money is good but is this legal? My gut says no. but my DM says its a grey area. what do you guys think?
I don't think they are allowed to prescribe controlled substances. If you know what company they use, I'd reach out to the provider service for additional info.
 
From their site:

Due to ruled (sic) and regulations, controlled medication cannot be prescribed through Telemedicine. In order to be prescribed a controlled medication you must go through a face to face doctor consultation.
 
Skype though?
No. Still unacceptable.

What is Telemedicine?
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Formally defined, telemedicine is the use of medical information exchanged from one site to another via electronic communications to improve a patient’s clinical health status. Telemedicine includes a growing variety of applications and services using two-way video, email, smart phones, wireless tools and other forms of telecommunications technology.
 
Bona fide doctor patient relationship?

The DEA says no.
 
Completing a questionnaire that is then reviewed by a doctor hired by the Internet pharmacy could not be considered the basis for a doctor/patient relationship. A consumer can more easily provide false information in a questionnaire than in a face-to-face meeting with a doctor. It is illegal to receive a prescription for a controlled substance without the establishment of a legitimate doctor/patient relationship, and it is unlikely for such a relationship to be formed through Internet correspondence alone. However, as discussed later in this document, this circumstance is not intended to limit the ability of practitioners to engage in telemedicine. For purposes of this guidance document, telemedicine refers to the provision of health care using telecommunication networks to transmit and receive information including voice communications, images, and patient records.

Some sites recommend to the patient that they not take a new drug before they have a complete physical performed by a doctor. These sites then ask the patient to waive the requirement for a physical and to agree to have a physical before taking the drug they purchase via the Internet. An after-the-fact physical does not take the place of establishing a doctor/patient relationship. The physical exam should take place before the prescription is written. These types of activities by Internet pharmacies can subject the operators of the Internet site and any pharmacies or doctors who participate in the activity to criminal, civil, or administrative actions. For DEA registrants administrative action may include the loss of their DEA registration. Additionally, providing false material information to obtain controlled substances could be considered obtaining a controlled substance by fraud and deceit, which is subject to Federal and State penalties.

I am a Practitioner who is Considering Starting an Internet Practice. Can I use the Internet to Facilitate the Prescribing of Controlled Substances?

You may use the Internet to provide information and to communicate with the patient, but it cannot be the sole basis for authorizing prescriptions. If a doctor/patient relationship exists, you can use the Internet to communicate with patients. Where a doctor/patient relationship exists, you may use the Internet to receive requests for treatment. DEA cautions, however, that such requests for treatment should be logical based on your knowledge of the patient's medical history and the medical complaint. You may also use the Internet to receive requests for refills of prescriptions from patients.

I am a Physician. Does the need for a Physical Exam Mean that I Cannot Engage in Telemedicine and Prescribe Controlled Substances?

No, DEA does not intend to limit the ability of doctors to engage in telemedicine. If the patient cannot travel to your office, but you supervise an exam given by a nurse or other professional, you can then prescribe the needed medications based on the results, to the extent that State law allows. In this case, your decision on the appropriateness of the medication is based on facts (symptoms, blood pressure, etc.) that have been verified by a qualified third party and observed by you electronically.

I have Read in the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) that it is a Violation of the law to use a Communications Facility to Facilitate the Illegal sale of a Controlled Substance. Does this Apply to the use of the Internet to Obtain Pharmaceutical Controlled Substances?

Yes, Title 21, United States Code, section 843(b) defines a communication facility as "any and all public and private instrumentalities used or useful in the transmission of writing, signs, signals, pictures or sounds of all kinds and includes mail, telephone, wire, radio, and all other means of communication." Anyone who uses the Internet to facilitate the illegal sale of a controlled substance would be in violation of 21 U.S.C. 843(b), which is punishable by a term of imprisonment of not more than four years and a fine of not more than $30,000. This provision could apply to owners of Internet sites, prescribers, pharmacists, and patients.

per DEA
 
Your DM says it's a grey area? The chains really are full of some airheaded people.
 
So if the patient didn't open their big mouth about this sketchy situation... how would you ever know, aside from the address on the rx? Granted an out-of-area control rx is always questionable in the first place, but I don't think it would be apparent to you that it came from an online doc just by looking at it.
 
Where is the patient physician relationship? Does it exist? If not, you can't fill anything.
 
Per DEA, that is not considered to be a legal rx. An appointment over the phone or internet does not make a legitimate doctor-patient relationship.
 
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