Lenient State MD schools

[GypsyHummus]

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When I search threads about this topic, I keep getting the common topic of In state schools in the Midwest are the best shot for people with lower stats. Which midwest schools are these exactly? Illinois? Ohio? Indiana? Michigan? and how much lower would these stats be to still have the candidate be considered viable? I know medical schools look at more than just numbers, but at what point would numbers keep you out of medical school for the state schools?

I guess what I am asking is, how far does being a resident of a certain state help you in the admissions process?

 

[AxiomaticTruth]

Buy the MSAR. Seriously. It's worth the $15. You can list all the medical schools by MCAT scores and by state and see which ones are around your score (and GPA). You can even see the # of in-state vs OOS applicants/interviewed/matriculants and easily see which schools give preference to in-state students.

 

[dahassa]

When I search threads about this topic, I keep getting the common topic of In state schools in the Midwest are the best shot for people with lower stats. Which midwest schools are these exactly? Illinois? Ohio? Indiana? Michigan? and how much lower would these stats be to still have the candidate be considered viable? I know medical schools look at more than just numbers, but at what point would numbers keep you out of medical school for the state schools?

I guess what I am asking is, how far does being a resident of a certain state help you in the admissions process?

Get the MSAR and look at the various state schools. There is a section that tells you the number of IS applicants and the number of IS interviewed/matriculated. Use this Inconjuction with the average stats for the school. The average stats for matriculated medical students is about 3.65/31 according to AAMC for 2012. The overall acceptance rate is about 45% My state school, for example, has a 40% acceptance rate for IS with an average of 3.7/30. This tells me my state school is around the average/normal for competition.

I am not sure how this is really going to help you. For most states, it takes 2-3 years of residency (having a house/apartment) in that state to become a "state resident." So it would take you a while to be considered for these benefits. You would wait that long before applying to medical school?

 

[dcc23]

Get the MSAR and look at the various state schools. There is a section that tells you the number of IS applicants and the number of IS interviewed/matriculated. Use this Inconjuction with the average stats for the school. The average stats for matriculated medical students is about 3.65/31 according to AAMC for 2012. The overall acceptance rate is about 45% My state school, for example, has a 40% acceptance rate for IS with an average of 3.7/30. This tells me my state school is around the average/normal for competition.

I am not sure how this is really going to help you. For most states, it takes 2-3 years of residency (having a house/apartment) in that state to become a "state resident." So it would take you a while to be considered for these benefits. You would wait that long before applying to medical school?

Where in the MSAR do you find scores specifically for IS applicants?

 

[circulus vitios]

Where in the MSAR do you find scores specifically for IS applicants?

You can't.

As far as I know, there aren't many state schools that are lenient and have a class size that is significantly (>20%) out of state. I have a 29 MCAT and the only reasonable state schools I've found are U Toledo, Virginia Commonwealth, and Eastern Virginia. I might be omitting a few because of prerequisites, and I know I'm omitting a few that have ridiculous OOS tuition like U of Illinois ($95k/year COA) or U of Kentucky ($87k/year COA.)

 

[dcc23]

You can't.

As far as I know, there aren't many state schools that are lenient and have a class size that is significantly (>20%) out of state. I have a 29 MCAT and the only reasonable state schools I've found are U Toledo, Virginia Commonwealth, and Eastern Virginia. I might be omitting a few because of prerequisites, and I know I'm omitting a few that have ridiculous OOS tuition like U of Illinois ($95k/year COA) or U of Kentucky ($87k/year COA.)

I didn't think so, but was curious where he got his numbers.

 

[dahassa]

I didn't think so, but was curious where he got his numbers.

I used the median MCAT/GPA reported by MSAR. I meant average for all students not just IS. Clearly, the numbers for IS will be slightly different. However, for the particular school I was referring to, the matriculating class is 95% IS. So, the difference b/w IS and the median will not be significant.

 

[notbobtrustme]

Lenient in-state schools matter only for in-state applicants.

 

[GypsyHummus]

Lenient in-state schools matter only for in-state applicants.

Right, so for an in state applicant, lets say from like Ohio or Indiana, how below the averages are the medical schools willing to entertain? Or like Mercer school of medicine, which has GPA and MCAT of 3.5 and 28?

I looked at a couple of the schools websites in the midwest and like for Indiana they say that In state students with a 3.4 c and sGPA and a 28 MCAT are eligable for an interview, but the averages are 3.7 and 31. Write state in Ohio has had in state people get in with 3.3s and the average is a 29 MCAT.

 

[cerno]

MSAR is your friend here. That being said, being IS will help you immensely at many schools. At the same time, it varies depending on the school (sometimes correlating with the "rank"). For example, if you were an Ohio resident, it would be hugely advantageous when applying to schools like Wright State, Toledo, and Cincinati. It would be only slightly advantageous for Ohio State.

 

[notbobtrustme]

Right, so for an in state applicant, lets say from like Ohio or Indiana, how below the averages are the medical schools willing to entertain? Or like Mercer school of medicine, which has GPA and MCAT of 3.5 and 28?

I looked at a couple of the schools websites in the midwest and like for Indiana they say that In state students with a 3.4 c and sGPA and a 28 MCAT are eligable for an interview, but the averages are 3.7 and 31. Write state in Ohio has had in state people get in with 3.3s and the average is a 29 MCAT.

No one knows that but the MSAR is your friend.

And averages being what they are, people above and below that average will be admitted.