Let's talk Podiatry

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Should Podiatry students be included among medical students?

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They take same pre-req to apply including MCAT
While admission stats may be lower than MD/DO they are still held to same academic standard
They take comparable classes as MD/DO in first 2 years
They take board exams at end of year 2, MD's take USMLE, DO's take COMLEX
They have years 3/4 rotations just as MD/DO does and take boards as well
They have 3 years of mandatory surgical residency upon graduation
MD-Allopathic Medicine
DO- Osteopathic medicine
Podiatry- Podiatric medicine
Don't make argument about them not taking STEP 1 because DOs have their own board exams
So if DOs are considered medical students, why not Pod students? Because they chose to specialize early? As long as i know everyone ends up specializing.
 
Timetraveller, I suspect that you will not find much support for your suggestion here. MD and DO students are combined because the curriculum, process, and interests of these two groups are typically similar or nearly identical. It is generally thought among this community that MD and DO are equivalent degrees.
I don’t think many on this forum would equate podiatric medicine in the same way. I realize that podiatry school shares several similarities with MD and DO medical schools, as you have pointed out, however I would predict that some of the interests of these groups may be different. For example, a DO student makes a post inquiring about the amount of research necessary to secure a competative urology residency. This post, although potentially interesting to both MD and DO students would likely have no value for a podiatry student (and even then a poster may be instructed to “go ask the urology forums). I’m sure that some interests of podiatry students may also be more likely irrelevant to MD and DO medical students.
By keeping the different groups of students separate, SDN is able to help reduce the clutter of “inapplicable” posts that you see when you open your web browser.
 
its post like this that makes NP and PA think they are doctors. let's just call everyone medical students, give white coat and call them doctors. this is the world we live in. everything is subject to change. nothing is black or white anymore.

it all comes down to this: "everybody wants to be a doctor, but nobody wants to go to medical school"
 
At my hospital, we have so many type of students (EMT,DO,MD,RN,PA,CRNA) all of the attendings blankly call us students because they dont care and neither should anyone else. You dont really do anything, you just really take up space most of the time . If it makes you feel better to say medical student go for it. In the real world , no one cares. In sdn world everyone does.
 
If you don’t go to a medical school you are not a medical student. I would never say that I am a podiatry student, nursing student, or PA student, so why would you want to say that you are a medical student?

Be proud of who you are and what you voluntarily chose/choose to do for a living. That’s how you gain people’s respect.
 
Dude shut the hell up. It's podiatry school of medicine just as DO is osteopathic school of medicine. Idk WTH u talking about because am not even in Podiatry school. Tbh sdn has some of the dumbest people in the world.
BadSanta said:
If you don’t go to a medical school you are not a medical student. I would never say that I am a podiatry student, nursing student, or PA student, so why would you want to say that you are a medical student?

Be proud of who you are and what you voluntarily chose/choose to do for a living. That’s how you gain people’s respect.
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TimeTraveller said:
Dude shut the hell up. It's podiatry school of medicine just as DO is osteopathic school of medicine. Idk WTH u talking about because am not even in Podiatry school. Tbh sdn has some of the dumbest people in the world.
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LOL. are you interested in going to pod? just out of curiosity
 
TimeTraveller said:
Dude shut the hell up. It's podiatry school of medicine just as DO is osteopathic school of medicine. Idk WTH u talking about because am not even in Podiatry school. Tbh sdn has some of the dumbest people in the world.
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Exploding like a child, calling people dumb with poor grammar and sentence structure, and defending a profession you do not (yet) belong to is “dumb”.

Luckily, SDN doesn’t have to fix that chip on your shoulder. The world will do that for us.
 
I don't know why it's so hard to have conversations as matured people on this forum. If Podiatry students have education that mirrors DOs and MDs why can't they be medical students because every hospital I have searched have them under physicians. All I needed was for u guys to go me a reason why they are not considered med students despite having exucaeduc that mirrors MDs and DOs. Am not coming on this site again.
 
This is not a grammar contest u idiot. It's a stupid forum that no one in the real world care about. Shut up if u don't have anything relevant to contribute to the topic.
BadSanta said:
Exploding like a child, calling people dumb with poor grammar and sentence structure, and defending a profession you do not (yet) belong to is “dumb”.

Luckily, SDN doesn’t have to fix that chip on your shoulder. The world will do that for us.
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TimeTraveller said:
I don't know why it's so hard to have conversations as matured people on this forum. If Podiatry students have education that mirrors DOs and MDs why can't they be medical students because every hospital I have searched have them under physicians. All I needed was for u guys to go me a reason why they are not considered med students despite having exucaeduc that mirrors MDs and DOs. Am not coming on this site again.
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bye
 
TimeTraveller said:
I don't know why it's so hard to have conversations as matured people on this forum. If Podiatry students have education that mirrors DOs and MDs why can't they be medical students because every hospital I have searched have them under physicians. All I needed was for u guys to go me a reason why they are not considered med students despite having exucaeduc that mirrors MDs and DOs. Am not coming on this site again.
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Do you have reason to believe that any significant number of podiatry students even want to be considered medical students?
 
No, being an MD/DO student is different than being a podiatrist student. In the hospital I group podiatrists as specialized physicians like the rest. That distinction is only made after graduation though.

edit - OP is about to have the banhammer dropped on him 2/2 insecurities
 
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TimeTraveller said:
It's a stupid forum that no one in the real world care about. Shut up if u don't have anything relevant to contribute to the topic.
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If it’s a stupid forum that no one cares about, then why did you create a thread to discuss a topic that you have clearly already made your mind up about?

Do you find it odd that you only want relevant responses, yet the majority of your posts are adolescent, triggered remarks that lack insight and maturity? Relevant responses are not simply the responses you wish to hear...


Oh...right. You’re a troll.
 
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Terry Toma said:
Do you have reason to believe that any significant number of podiatry students even want to be considered medical students?
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from what i researched, OP went to SGU dropped out -> did touro master's --> ?

So im guessing he wants to go to podiatry and still want to be a physician at the same time to keep his ego? idk
 
Qell for your information I matriculate this fall. The only reason I asked this is that NYCPM did presentation when I was in the masters program and i realized Podiatry is very similar to MD/DO. What I didn't expect was people attacking me like am some ******* for creating this thread.
shisong said:
from what i researched, OP went to SGU dropped out -> did touro master's --> ?

So im guessing he wants to go to podiatry and still want to be a physician at the same time to keep his ego? idk
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Terry Toma said:
Do you have reason to believe that any significant number of podiatry students even want to be considered medical students?
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6 people answered "yes" on the poll so I believe they would appreciate if Podiatry students were considered medical students. They study medicine for God's sake. 4 years med school plus 3 years surgery residency. That to me qualifies them.
 
TimeTraveller said:
6 people answered "yes" on the poll so I believe they would appreciate if Podiatry students were considered medical students. They study medicine for God's sake. 4 years med school plus 3 years surgery residency. That to me qualifies them.
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you should seriously check your insecurities. best of luck in your future endeavors.
 
TimeTraveller said:
I don't know why it's so hard to have conversations as matured people on this forum. If Podiatry students have education that mirrors DOs and MDs why can't they be medical students because every hospital I have searched have them under physicians. All I needed was for u guys to go me a reason why they are not considered med students despite having exucaeduc that mirrors MDs and DOs. Am not coming on this site again.
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Because it’s a stupid question.

I will clarify it for you. They are not medical students. The first two years is not what makes you a physician. They take classes with medstudents the first two years, but so do dental students. Are those kids considered dental medstudents? There is so much more to being a physician than the first two years of medical school. Those years are actually the least like medicine and serve to give you the rationale when getting into clinical medicine. Clinical medicine doesn’t even start until 3rd year when podiatry goes their own separate way.

Podiatrists are podiatrists. End of question. It’s is a good profession just like dentistry is but it’s different.
 
If you wanna be a doctor, go to doctor school. They are not physicians or surgeons. They are podiatrists.

Once you're in residency, you will note the large difference between you and them. Basic knowledge that I expect from actual surgeons such as basic antibiotic choices and why, understanding of basic surgical principles, ability to make a proper differential diagnosis and execute a well thought out plan are just not there.

This is from a guy that enjoys working with them in the OR.
 
If they are not physicians then why are they listed under orthopedic physicians in hospitals? Am not insecure. My conclusion is that Podiatry students are medical students who have specialized early in their career and will graduate to be physicians just like MD and DOs. Not too long ago DOs were considered fake physicians. Podiatrists too will earn their respect with time. Any person who graduates from podiatry school could graduate from MD or DO school.
shisong said:
you should seriously check your insecurities. best of luck in your future endeavors.
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DO2015CA said:
Because it’s a stupid question.

I will clarify it for you. They are not medical students. The first two years is not what makes you a physician. They take classes with medstudents the first two years, but so do dental students. Are those kids considered dental medstudents? There is so much more to being a physician than the first two years of medical school. Those years are actually the least like medicine and serve to give you the rationale when getting into clinical medicine. Clinical medicine doesn’t even start until 3rd year when podiatry goes their own separate way.

Podiatrists are podiatrists. End of question. It’s is a good profession just like dentistry is but it’s different.
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Wow I thought you were smart. They don't go to doctor school? So taking similar classes as MDs and DOs, having clinical rotations and 3 years of residency doesn't qualify them as physicians?
Psai said:
If you wanna be a doctor, go to doctor school. They are not physicians or surgeons. They are podiatrists.

Once you're in residency, you will note the large difference between you and them. Basic knowledge that I expect from actual surgeons such as basic antibiotic choices and why, understanding of basic surgical principles, ability to make a proper differential diagnosis and execute a well thought out plan are just not there.

This is from a guy that enjoys working with them in the OR.
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TimeTraveller said:
If they are not physicians then why are they listed under orthopedic physicians in hospitals? Am not insecure. My conclusion is that Podiatry students are medical students who have specialized early in their career and will graduate to be physicians just like MD and DOs. Not too long ago DOs were considered fake physicians. Podiatrists too will earn their respect with time. Any person who graduates from podiatry school could graduate from MD or DO school.
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Okay. Hope the best for you in podiatry school.
 
They are Podiatic surgeons; feet and ankle surgeons. That's what they went to school for. Let them earn what they worked for
 
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Cause certain someone needs external validation for his career choice...

OP: Hi I am a medical student
Some random person: oh which medical school do you go to?
OP: XYZ Podiatry school
Some random person: Oh....
 
BadSanta said:
Says the person who flunked out of the Caribbean...

Temple POD class of 2016 had an average MCAT of 23.16 (around 37%, 496-497 current) and an average science GPA of 3.15.

To graduate from MD/DO school, you first have to gain acceptance to MD/DO school. With the numbers listed above, the acceptance rate is less than 10% into an US MD school, and that rate probably plummets when you factor in other variables. And those who do gain admissions with those numbers probably have a very rough time making it to M4.
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How do you know that?
 
No, they're podiatrists. If they were physicians they'd be governed by the medical board not the podiatrist board.

If they we're medical students they'd become physicians when they graduated.

This is not the demean them. Most DPMs that I've met are very good at what they do. But they aren't physicians, at least in my state.
 
Don't feed the troll.

Unless he's not trolling, in that case, I have one question for you OP, why so buthurt?
 
TimeTraveller said:
6 people answered "yes" on the poll so I believe they would appreciate if Podiatry students were considered medical students. They study medicine for God's sake. 4 years med school plus 3 years surgery residency. That to me qualifies them.
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I misread the question. I thought you were asking if podiatrists should have to be medical students. I feel that you should have to be a real medical student before practicing podiatry. Prior to stroking your own ego, please subtract my “Yes” and add a “No” to the results.

I apologize for the inconvenience. My brain is totally fried from studying medicine all day. I’d explain what that’s like, but its something you’ll never understand.

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