Letters of Intent

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For those applying to psychiatry residency programs during the current cycle, do any of you plan to send letters of intent to your top program(s)?

If so, when do you think it would be best to send these letters?

Advice from current residents on this topic is also welcome 🙂
 
I am a current applicant this cycle and I would say that just under half of my interview invitations came immediately after calling/emailing the coordinators and PD's, from a few days to even minutes after reaching out! I generally started after October 15 and kept in contact to follow-up on programs that I had heard nothing from or had been wait listed.

Edit: whoops. Read this as letter of interest rather than letters of intent
 
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I'm definitely planning to send a letter at least to my #1 program, but I'm not really clear on when people usually send them either. End of January?
 
It doesn't matter and we really don't care...
I think folks underestimate the number of "Oh my God, you're my #1" emails that programs get and how often those folks end up matching somewhere else no matter how high you rank them.

If the PD and admissions committee has any experience, they will receive Letters of Interest/Intent as "oh, that's nice" at most.
 
OK, so you put in an application for 3 or 4 “reach” programs and you are lucky enough to get an interview at one of them. Now everyone else does the same thing. Now, the programs invite a range of applicants and list them by what they perceive as talent. So now we have a situation where the applicants who are most likely to send “you’re my #1 program” are most likely to be the applicants who are lowest on the list. The applicants on the top have multiple top notch places to consider. I hate to rain on anyone’s parade, but statistically, it is rare to see an e-mail that surprises us with “Wow, he/she really likes us”, and more likely we may have an honest gut reaction of “of course we are your #1.” Just as ironic is the statistical irritation that the applicants on the top like to tell us we are ranked “very highly”. Who are we, Avis? We are number 2 and that is why we try harder!
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OK, so you put in an application for 3 or 4 “reach” programs and you are lucky enough to get an interview at one of them. Now everyone else does the same thing. Now, the programs invite a range of applicants and list them by what they perceive as talent. So now we have a situation where the applicants who are most likely to send “you’re my #1 program” are most likely to be the applicants who are lowest on the list. The applicants on the top have multiple top notch places to consider. I hate to rain on anyone’s parade, but statistically, it is rare to see an e-mail that surprises us with “Wow, he/she really likes us”, and more likely we may have an honest gut reaction of “of course we are your #1.” Just as ironic is the statistical irritation that the applicants on the top like to tell us we are ranked “very highly”. Who are we, Avis? We are number 2 and that is why we try harder!
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This is a helpful clarification about the problems with letters of intent. It's definitely unfortunate that for many, the dream program might be the one where that letter might mean the least, and then you are stuck telling a bunch of other programs "you aren't my number 1." It also makes sense that as applicants we aren't as clear about where our application fits in the pile, but when you are reading a ton and meeting lots of people you have a general idea of what type of applicant you are looking at. Aside from looking at the general level of most of the programs we have received interviews from is there any way to know? Several of the "mid tier" Programs I have interviewed asked me skeptically why I was interested in their program, but the "top tier programs" it's felt a little more like a game of darts- some first round interviews, some wait list interviews after I sent them my CK score, and some radio silence/rejections. When the "reach programs" end up being more like 4/6 is it realistic to dream big if they feel like a good fit?
 
Very few applicants stand out as fantastic, and very few leave us wondering "what's wrong with that guy?" Everyone else falls into a large middle zone. Once you have been granted an interview, you are definitely in the running and for the most part you are back on an even plane. There will always be some exceptions like MD, PhDs or lots of related research, but don't get too obsessed about being wait listed at first. I would guess that most selection committees don't mention how the applicants were invited.
 
This whole game is... ugh. I get why we have a match, but I really wish it were a more honest and transparent process. Some PDs send interview feedback quickly. Some hardly respond to e-mails. Sometimes a great program will write an e-mail making you think you're the best thing to come along since haldol and some will write something like we appreciate that you like us. Very similar to clinical comments. "DWD has very good clinical skills for their level of training." If someone said this about me in standard american english, I'd be thrilled! In med school english, it means that I'm pretty far below average bordering on bad. The problem is, we never really know which language any particular person is speaking (except for deans and course directors), and we rarely have the official decoder.

On this end, how many candidates do programs actively try to woo and spend extra time, effort and money on, or at least e-mails that say something like you would be a really great fit for our program or everyone who interviewed you said wonderful things. Does this mean that I have a spot for sure, almost certainly, I'll probably match here or I have a fighting chance? Are blandly positive e-mails like saying my clinical skills are good (aka you probably won't match here)? What about hearing nothing (unless a program explicitly states that they won't communicate post interview)?

The experience that this whole process most resembles in my mind is online dating in a major metropolitan area... we swipe right, you swipe right, sometime we have to message you, we drive long distances to see you, some of you might takes us out to dinner, if we're really lucky we get a hotel, sometimes you write us back the next week and ask if we want to watch netflix and chill... but all the while we're flirting with many others and so are you, and rarely does either side actually end up with their true #1, but often in the end it works out for the most part.

I've sent many letters than said, "I really really really really really like you, and I want you, do you want me too?" and it's pretty true, I'd be very happy there. The responses have ranged from "OMG <3" to "I think that you're really nice, but..." I also sent one where the like almost sounded like love, and will probably be ranking them #1. I just couldn't help myself: they said that they also like cooking with kale, hiking, were obsessed with Serial and had a really cute bathing suit pic in their profile *wink*!

Just as many of the love letters from applicants probably go out to the reach program that interviewed them, I think that the opposite is probably true as well. Those who stand out and a top middle place interviews them probably get love letters from slots 4-10 on their list... I just really wish that I could have a better decoder right now (feedback has been all over the place), because I'm spending a lot of time and effort flirting and being flirted with, when all I really want is to get some commitment... someone's gotta just put a ring on it.

So to answer you: No, I'm not planning to send a real "you're my #1," although I'd love to receive one. Programs generally have less to lose, and I want to reserve the right to be hit on until I get a ring from my #1. More information from programs to me can't hurt. With that said... much has been written about noise in applicants on this board. The great many applicants who, for better or worse, can't really be distinguished because they have OK boards, OK clinical grades and come from OK schools. They are average for the place that they match into, and they interview just fine. Perhaps it does make sense that a "you're my real #1 because of X, Y and Z" would help? PDs want happy residents and if they really can't think of a good reason why person B should be ranked over you, this could help... beating the coin flip? Not hearing from programs does kind of make me like them a little less... but only a little.
 
When a program sends me a nice "love letter," I get the warm and fuzzies and feel a little more favorable about them (nothing major but I guess I associate more positive feelings with their program esp if the letter is personal). If you send a genuine love letter to a program and it makes them feel a little more favorable about you, it can't hurt

When I asked my advisor about this he said if they have 2 applicants that are equal and one reaches out to express interest, he may then rank that one higher solely based upon that
 
Really, just make your rank list based on your preference and let the computer do the rest. Sure, tell your number one program that you are your number one if it makes you feel better, but as an actual PD above has said, it probably doesn't matter that much. If that is what splits you between an equally qualified person, well, then more power to you. I had one program in which I was interested (which ended up being my #2) tell me to touch base with them in January before match, but that's about it.

And stop calling a "you're my number 1" or "I will be ranking you highly"email a "letter of intent." You are not a highly recruited defensive end over whom Jim Harbaugh, Urban Meyer, and Nick Saban are salivating. Sorry, you are not entitled to pick and choose between MGH and Columbia and cry when you get neither. Tough love, but seeing medical student entitlement from the resident perspective and realizing how ridiculous it was to think so highly of myself, any amount of real talk to med students is completely warranted.
 
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