Liars on SDN?

[ishabooboo]

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I just wanted to know if anyone else out there was skeptical about the true-hearted helpfulness of a lot of people on SDN? I know for a fact that pre-meds were ruthless at my college (personal experience: got accused of cheating cause someone found out I was doing well and the class was curved). How much trust is there here? And any of you fakers, come on out and confess, cause it's just not nice. There's enough stress without you crazies messing with us. 🙁

 

[QuantumMechanic]

I just wanted to know if anyone else out there was skeptical about the true-hearted helpfulness of a lot of people on SDN? I know for a fact that pre-meds were ruthless at my college (personal experience: got accused of cheating cause someone found out I was doing well and the class was curved). How much trust is there here? And any of you fakers, come on out and confess, cause it's just not nice. There's enough stress without you crazies messing with us. 🙁

you sound bitter

 

[neutropenic]

I just wanted to know if anyone else out there was skeptical about the true-hearted helpfulness of a lot of people on SDN? I know for a fact that pre-meds were ruthless at my college (personal experience: got accused of cheating cause someone found out I was doing well and the class was curved). How much trust is there here? And any of you fakers, come on out and confess, cause it's just not nice. There's enough stress without you crazies messing with us. 🙁

OK I'll be the first to confess. I didn't really get into medical school with these stats:

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BCPM 1.1
AO 1.2

Cheer yell leader
Member of densa society

 

[red dot]

And any of you fakers, come on out and confess, cause it's just not nice.

liars don't tell people they're liars.

 

[jojocola]

liars don't tell people they're liars.

unless they can lie about how they used to lie. i can see it done.

 

[kevster2001]

Unless theres a giant conspiracy, anyone thats feeding false information would get called out pretty quickly. People who lie about their scores.. well that doesn't really affet anything or anyone but themselves.

 

[Dr.Phil]

Sady there will be liars everywhere you go, and that includes SDN. Thats why you should always take what advice people give you with a grain of salt. I have dealt with many of the premed competitive fools. Believe it or not these competitive idiots are the same ones that are causing the increase in lawsuits against the medical profession. IF only doctors treated their patiens like real human beings no one would sue them. you can try to agrue this point and say that its too simplistic but that is what it boils down to...

 

[Rafa]

I help out here because I don't talk premed with other folk at school. I've learned a ton from reading everything, and it's chill to share the knowledge, while learning more at the same time. Plus, it makes me feel like I'm doing something to get into med school...instead of like, studying and stuff.

 

[MossPoh]

It's the internet people lie everywhere. I know we'd all like to truly think that the person named "sxychic69" or something is really an 18 yearold blonde supermodel...but most likley it is a fat guy with dorito stains on his Battlestar Galactica Tshirt that spreads peanut butter on his privates while having his dog lick it off while reading kiddiemags....for the girls that talk to the "sxyguy18" ...same thing. Everything you read on here, unless backed up with hard proof has to be taked with a grain of salt. I've been known to exaggerate a little bit for dramatic effect and am not considered a liar (the guy doesn't do the peanut butter thing probably) but there are people that habitually lie..especially on the internet where there aren't any major consequences for it...

 

[Centinel]

It's the internet people lie everywhere. I know we'd all like to truly think that the person named "sxychic69" or something is really an 18 yearold blonde supermodel...but most likley it is a fat guy with dorito stains on his Battlestar Galactica Tshirt that spreads peanut butter on his privates while having his dog lick it off while reading kiddiemags....

Chafed one too many times by the cyber-sex, ehh?

 

[chilon85]

liars don't tell people they're liars.

LOL, that is true. I have to say though that I volunteered to edit personal statements on one of the other threads and have been getting a lot of messages as a result and I actually do go through and read and comment on each person's essay. It is really not a big deal and if I am helping someone out then that's great. Also, it is really interesting to read about different people's life experiences.

 

[plainolerichie]

I'm not sure if this is what you're asking, but I don't think there are liars on SDN. I do think the people who use SDN and MD-Applicants are typically people who have nearly perfect stats and stuff though. Like, the averages for MDApps is always higher than the average in MSAR.

 

[riff raff]

[...] IF only doctors treated their patiens like real human beings no one would sue them. you can try to agrue this point and say that its too simplistic but that is what it boils down to...

IMO, while that may be correct for some, you'll always have those "McDonald's coffee was hot and burned my hand" or "Oreo cookies made me fat" lawsuits from people who see another way to make a quick buck.

 

[Law2Doc]

Believe it or not these competitive idiots are the same ones that are causing the increase in lawsuits against the medical profession. IF only doctors treated their patiens like real human beings no one would sue them. you can try to agrue this point and say that its too simplistic but that is what it boils down to...

Not quite. Certainly there might be FEWER lawsuits if doctors treat their patients better. But doctors will still get sued, because no normal person is going to just shrug off a possible mistake that killed a loved one, just because the doctor seemed nice.

 

[MossPoh]

Chafed one too many times by the cyber-sex, ehh?

busted! That cyber sex.......note to self..bye a keyboard protector. My keys keep sticking from.............spilled coke..that's it..spilled cooooooooke.

 

[45408]

Sady there will be liars everywhere you go, and that includes SDN. Thats why you should always take what advice people give you with a grain of salt. I have dealt with many of the premed competitive fools. Believe it or not these competitive idiots are the same ones that are causing the increase in lawsuits against the medical profession. IF only doctors treated their patiens like real human beings no one would sue them. you can try to agrue this point and say that its too simplistic but that is what it boils down to...

People will sue for any reason at all, including not having a reason.

 

[jbone]

busted! That cyber sex.......note to self..bye a keyboard protector. My keys keep sticking from.............spilled coke..that's it..spilled cooooooooke.

Nasty mofo.

BUSTED!!

 

[ND2005]

Unless theres a giant conspiracy, anyone thats feeding false information would get called out pretty quickly. People who lie about their scores.. well that doesn't really affet anything or anyone but themselves.

Exactly. It's strength in numbers. If someone is lying or giving out bad information, they'll get called on it and, if they're deliberately feeding bad info, banned.

The big thing is to look at the screen names of people posting. This isn't to say that newbies are incapable of giving good information, but I'm going to read a post by, for example, LizzyM or REL about admissions more closely than I'd read someone else's post about the same subject.

 

[BooMed]

IMO, while that may be correct for some, you'll always have those "McDonald's coffee was hot and burned my hand" or "Oreo cookies made me fat" lawsuits from people who see another way to make a quick buck.

You should actually do some research on the McDonald's coffee case because it's pretty interesting and McDonald's really was in the wrong.

Spilled Coffee Case Facts

 

[ND2005]

You should actually do some research on the McDonald's coffee case because it's pretty interesting and McDonald's really was in the wrong.

Spilled Coffee Case Facts

Yeah. McDonalds' was pretty clearly in the wrong.

And without getting vulgar, the burns were not to the hands or legs. They were to an area that no one would ever ever ever want to suffer 3rd degree burns on.

 

[NotAnMD]

Concerning the OP, what the hell is this person talking about?! "Come on out and confess"? . . . for his/her sake, I really hope there's a back story to this.

SDN is an internet forum, not an actual community.

I might expect these kinds of sentiments from Kip Dynamite, but only if someone was trying to have cyber-sex with LaFonda.

 

[OwnageMobile]

You should actually do some research on the McDonald's coffee case because it's pretty interesting and McDonald's really was in the wrong.

Spilled Coffee Case Facts

Interesting read.

You must learn how to not step in the bullsht whilst on SDN.

 

[BuckerPark]

While I agree that it's unlikely a blatant mistake will be overlooked by an overly forgiving family member, I was surprised to read a study on the topic included in Malcolm Gladwell's blook, "Blink."

Gladwell cited a study where a researcher, after recording 200+ 15-minute clips of conversations between doctors and patients, was able to accurately predict, with 95% accuracy, which doctors had been sued and which doctors hadn't.

It boils down to a concept Gladwell refers to as 'thin slicing' (namely, the ability for a person's GUT to judge a person before their conscious mind has had a chance to do so). It may or may not seem obvious, but patients did not choose to sue doctors based on mistakes made (or avoided) but on whether or not interactions with the doctor had been 'nice' instead of 'rushed' or 'indifferent'. The mistake only served as a catalyst.

I'm probably not summing it up the best that I can; check it out if you are interested in seeing more.

Not quite. Certainly there might be FEWER lawsuits if doctors treat their patients better. But doctors will still get sued, because no normal person is going to just shrug off a possible mistake that killed a loved one, just because the doctor seemed nice.

 

[Depakote]

liars don't tell people they're liars.

I do. I'm lying to you right now.

<_<

>_>

 

[MrBurns10]

It boils down to a concept Gladwell refers to as 'thin slicing' (namely, the ability for a person's GUT to judge a person before their conscious mind has had a chance to do so). It may or may not seem obvious, but patients did not choose to sue doctors based on mistakes made (or avoided) but on whether or not interactions with the doctor had been 'nice' instead of 'rushed' or 'indifferent'. The mistake only served as a catalyst.

The same thing came to my mind when I was reading the previous posts. Great book, albeit repetitive at times.

 

[pagemmapants]

Yeah. McDonalds' was pretty clearly in the wrong.

And without getting vulgar, the burns were not to the hands or legs. They were to an area that no one would ever ever ever want to suffer 3rd degree burns on.

Disregarding the debate over who was in the wrong. . .

. . . this is the reason I have to specify that my coffee shop coffees be "extra hot" to get them to a tepid 170. 😡

For an ex-Washingtonian, this is a travesty.

 

[RAD11]

Sady there will be liars everywhere you go, and that includes SDN. Thats why you should always take what advice people give you with a grain of salt.

👍

 

[Shredder]

I just wanted to know if anyone else out there was skeptical about the true-hearted helpfulness of a lot of people on SDN? I know for a fact that pre-meds were ruthless at my college (personal experience: got accused of cheating cause someone found out I was doing well and the class was curved). How much trust is there here? And any of you fakers, come on out and confess, cause it's just not nice. There's enough stress without you crazies messing with us. 🙁

I confess.

Actually I've found that most ppl who stick around to 1K posts tend to be legit. Donors as well. Small post counts are dubious.

 

[Tiger26]

I just wanted to know if anyone else out there was skeptical about the true-hearted helpfulness of a lot of people on SDN? I know for a fact that pre-meds were ruthless at my college (personal experience: got accused of cheating cause someone found out I was doing well and the class was curved). How much trust is there here? And any of you fakers, come on out and confess, cause it's just not nice. There's enough stress without you crazies messing with us. 🙁

I call your claims erroneous (I could be lying though)

 

[MossPoh]

Nasty mofo.

BUSTED!!

Naw he's drinking diet sprite...I am a Bawls man. Ok I've never tried it but that seems to be the drink of choice for computer geeks next to red bull or any other stimulant.

 

[Callogician]

most people are only competitive dinguses when the competition is direct.

Examples:

1) Two guys trying to pick up the same woman at a bar
2) Two gunners trying to impress the attending on a surgery rotation.
3) Two people interviewing for a single high-profile residency spot.

Here, the competition is so diffuse that intentionally misleading information is fairly rare.

 

[MossPoh]

most people are only competitive dinguses when the competition is direct.

Examples:

1) Two guys trying to pick up the same woman at a bar
2) Two gunners trying to impress the attending on a surgery rotation.
3) Two people interviewing for a single high-profile residency spot.

Here, the competition is so diffuse that intentionally misleading information is fairly rare.

Hmmm..Flashes me back to the scene in Beautiful Mind (is that the name of the movie with Russel Crowe and game theory or whatever) with the girls.

 

[jackieMD2007]

A lot of us out of college a year or two use SDN as a pre-med group b/c well...I don't have a pre-med group anymore.

Mainly this place is for support and information that like anything else, comes with a grain of salt.

You can tell the older SDN'ers--PM them and ask for help--especially the donors, etc...they are really great about offering specific assistance. Pay it forward when you've been here for awhile or after you get accepted somewhere.

It doesn't hurt ones' case to help somebody, especially if they are not in your application cycle, or if you are already in medschool.

I agree with the assessment that those of us who have MD Apps profiles have to be proud about something on it, or we wouldn't put it up.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Sure, there are liars here, but your best resource to scout them out is the post search function. My civil procedure professor in law school mentioned that people are better able to gauge honesty/dishonesty by reading comments than by hearing comments. If you've got a post-history, everything you say has to be consistent with prior posts, which means you have to be pretty d@mn smart and consistent to get away with lying. If you're suspicious of a post, look at the post history. If it doesn't add up, report it to the mods.

 

[oneaat]

You should actually do some research on the McDonald's coffee case because it's pretty interesting and McDonald's really was in the wrong.

Spilled Coffee Case Facts

yeah, because nothing says unbiased source on frivilous lawsuits like the american trial lawyers association 🙂

 

[riff raff]

You should actually do some research on the McDonald's coffee case because it's pretty interesting and McDonald's really was in the wrong.

Spilled Coffee Case Facts

my point really wasn't to say who was right or wrong, sorry if it came off that way. Rather, people sue for whatever they feel like these days regardless if you are the mother teresa of medicine.

 

[medicomel]

maybe i'm the only one, but i'd prefer to be anonymous and help out anonymous folks than to interact directly with the annoying frothing premeds we've all come to detest during our academic endeavors.

that, and i think those of us who have experienced small successes along the way are more apt to share our secrets.

oh, and let's not forget that it's just good karma

👍

 

[Compozine]

Hey...what can you do? All I can say is, yes there are many dishonest people on these threads, as in life. You can't take anything people say too seriously. People love to play head games.....makes em feel important. It is fun to surf SDN, but by all means, do NOT make it you primary source of information about this process. If you do, you will be mislead in a hundred wrong directions.

 

[medicomel]

Disregarding the debate over who was in the wrong. . .

. . . this is the reason I have to specify that my coffee shop coffees be "extra hot" to get them to a tepid 170. 😡

For an ex-Washingtonian, this is a travesty.

AMEN! that's exactly what i do...
in fact i'm drinking an "extra-hot" soy latte right now. if i didn't specify extra hot, i could have thrown a few ice cubes in there and had it cold. they've gotten really lazy in the past few years, and don't even throw a thermometer in the pitcher. 😡

 

[Zargos]

This statement is a lie.

 

[mchou]

AMEN! that's exactly what i do...
in fact i'm drinking an "extra-hot" soy latte right now. if i didn't specify extra hot, i could have thrown a few ice cubes in there and had it cold. they've gotten really lazy in the past few years, and don't even throw a thermometer in the pitcher. 😡

Let's officially rename the thread "spilt coffee" or something. At least we'd have fun!

 

[Booner]

yeah, because nothing says unbiased source on frivilous lawsuits like the american trial lawyers association 🙂

What?? Do you mean they might spin things to make idiotic lawsuits seem reasonable?

 

[RxnMan]

I help out here because I don't talk premed with other folk at school. I've learned a ton from reading everything, and it's chill to share the knowledge, while learning more at the same time. Plus, it makes me feel like I'm doing something to get into med school...instead of like, studying and stuff.

I help out because I didn't have a pre-med advisor at my school, and I know how hard it is to apply. But then again, if you take my advice (or anyone's, for that matter,) as THE TRUTH, without any references, background information, or independent opinions, then you're nuts.

 

[fyi411]

It's the internet people lie everywhere. I know we'd all like to truly think that the person named "sxychic69" or something is really an 18 yearold blonde supermodel...but most likley it is a fat guy with dorito stains on his Battlestar Galactica Tshirt that spreads peanut butter on his privates while having his dog lick it off while reading kiddiemags....for the girls that talk to the "sxyguy18" ...same thing.


wow wild imagination

 

[Darkshooter326]

Of course there are liars here. premeds are inherently vengeful people and too intense anyways. One comforting point is that nobody actually knows what they are talking about. We all just pat ourselves on the back, cause we lack the self-esteem necessary to make it through the application process. If you don't want to deal with liars and cheats, don't deal with SD 😱

 

[Psycho Doctor]

Chafed one too many times by the cyber-sex, ehh?

lol