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I am sending in my paperwork for IL license. My undergrad transcript has 2 F (fail) grade on them. Do you guys thing its going to be an issue for license?
 
undergrad as in college.
the state of IL wants undergrad(college) and graduate (med school) transcripts
 
Undergrad and Med School transcripts are just to check if you actually were conferred a degree in both before you can be granted your training license.

The background/fingerprinting process makes sure you're not a wanted criminal that has felonies or warrants on their record.

The check box questions will ask you about DUIs, misdemeanors involving drugs or alcohol and if you have any cases of malpractice that occured in the past or are currently pending.

It's basically like escrow for a house. The escrow company does it's due diligence to make sure that all of the elements that make up a home purchase are present and no red flags are left unaddressed.

Relax, focus on the semester in front of you and rock it!
 
JGimpel said:
Undergrad and Med School transcripts are just to check if you actually were conferred a degree in both before you can be granted your training license.

The background/fingerprinting process makes sure you're not a wanted criminal that has felonies or warrants on their record.

The check box questions will ask you about DUIs, misdemeanors involving drugs or alcohol and if you have any cases of malpractice that occured in the past or are currently pending.

It's basically like escrow for a house. The escrow company does it's due diligence to make sure that all of the elements that make up a home purchase are present and no red flags are left unaddressed.

Relax, focus on the semester in front of you and rock it!
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what are things that could make one not eligible for a license, other than crimes/jail time/DUI/academic dishonesty/lawsuits? I kinda agree with the OP that it's a bit unnerving to have one's entire academic history continuously looked at every time that we apply for something -it's like applying for residency all over again almost. I have to provide a letter from my previous PD, transcripts, school evaluation, copies of my USMLE scores, etc. etc. Why is there a need to have this reviewed-again!

Anyways, can anyone elaborate on what reasons are for not being given a license?
 
michaelrack said:
to provide jobs for hospital administrators and government bureaucrats
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I'm serious though. By the time we are entering a PGY-2 residency, we have graduated med school, which means we went through the grueling process of getting into med school, finished med school and clearly were sufficiently fine to complete the degree, went through the nightmare of the match, had our credentials thoroughly evaluated then by the program that is going to allow us to train with them, we also got a license by a state where we did internship, which reviewed our credentials at that time, and now yet again we are having our credentials reviewed. This is just madness. When does this stop? It's no wonder that people are more and more choosing not to go to med school.
 
IamnotFreud said:
I'm serious though. By the time we are entering a PGY-2 residency, we have graduated med school, which means we went through the grueling process of getting into med school, finished med school and clearly were sufficiently fine to complete the degree, went through the nightmare of the match, had our credentials thoroughly evaluated then by the program that is going to allow us to train with them, we also got a license by a state where we did internship, which reviewed our credentials at that time, and now yet again we are having our credentials reviewed. This is just madness. When does this stop? It's no wonder that people are more and more choosing not to go to med school.
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Wait until you get to the credentialing/privileging step. That's some good times right there.
 
How about academic probation during med school? I've graduated and matched (thankfully!) this year but did have some academic difficulties in previous years in med school and was instructed by the GME office to include brief explanation of any probation during med school to the state board as part of the licensure application.

Hopefully that shouldn't be too big of a roadblock towards getting a license, right?
 
gutonc said:
Wait until you get to the credentialing/privileging step. That's some good times right there.
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I cannot wait for those good times. Seriously someone please share what some of the reasons for denial of licensing is.
 
IamnotFreud said:
Seriously someone please share what some of the reasons for denial of licensing is.
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I think you're getting worked up over nothing here. The biggest reasons that license apps get denied are mostly related to non-disclosure of basically any legal or academic issue, even if it's not that big of a deal. That is why we generally recommend disclosing any charge or conviction (civil, criminal, misdemeanor or worse) more dramatic than a speeding ticket. The other big reason that license apps get denied is prior revocation/denial of a license in another state or revocation of hospital privileges due to gross negligence.

Failing a class or 3 in undergrad or med school? No (assuming you graduate).
Losing or having a judgement in a malpractice suit? No (assuming it's not part of a pattern).
An MIP or Drunk and disorderly conviction during college? No (assuming you cop to it on your application).
DUI? Usually no, as long as you jump through their Impaired Physician hoops (again, assuming it's an isolated incident and not part of a pattern).
Academic dishonesty? If you got kicked out of a school for it, probably. Otherwise, probably not.
Academic probation? If they graduated you, no.
Misdemeanor drug bust? No (see MIP above).
Prison time? Sure. Jail time? Not necessarily.

Note that this doesn't necessarily mean that you won't have to appear in front of the board or at least offer written explanations for the issues. It will also likely delay your application but probably won't cause it to be rejected.

Finally, be aware that none of this applies in Texas. They'll reject your license application for being written with your left hand. but Texas sucks so who cares.
 
gutonc said:
I think you're getting worked up over nothing here. The biggest reasons that license apps get denied are mostly related to non-disclosure of basically any legal or academic issue, even if it's not that big of a deal. That is why we generally recommend disclosing any charge or conviction (civil, criminal, misdemeanor or worse) more dramatic than a speeding ticket. The other big reason that license apps get denied is prior revocation/denial of a license in another state or revocation of hospital privileges due to gross negligence.

Failing a class or 3 in undergrad or med school? No (assuming you graduate).
Losing or having a judgement in a malpractice suit? No (assuming it's not part of a pattern).
An MIP or Drunk and disorderly conviction during college? No (assuming you cop to it on your application).
DUI? Usually no, as long as you jump through their Impaired Physician hoops (again, assuming it's an isolated incident and not part of a pattern).
Academic dishonesty? If you got kicked out of a school for it, probably. Otherwise, probably not.
Academic probation? If they graduated you, no.
Misdemeanor drug bust? No (see MIP above).
Prison time? Sure. Jail time? Not necessarily.

Note that this doesn't necessarily mean that you won't have to appear in front of the board or at least offer written explanations for the issues. It will also likely delay your application but probably won't cause it to be rejected.

Finally, be aware that none of this applies in Texas. They'll reject your license application for being written with your left hand. but Texas sucks so who cares.
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I have heard that Tx is a difficult to get license, which is a shame because I was seriously considering practicing in Tx in the future. What specifically makes it so hard to get though? I thought that they have a pretty big need for docs in my understanding.

But regardless of that, I don't have any criminal record whatsoever, only parking tickets in the past which I figure I don't have to report. I also don't have any academic issues per se either, but do have some funky dates and stuff regarding degree completion/graduation, etc and I'm applying for a MA limited license, which I have heard is a tough state. Maybe I am just being overly neurotic, but I am concerned.
 
IamnotFreud said:
I cannot wait for those good times. Seriously someone please share what some of the reasons for denial of licensing is.
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It will vary by board and state but in general:

Fraud/Misrepresentation on Application
Current drug/ETOH abuse or other impairments
Unprofessional conduct (may include prison stints)
Revoking of license in another state
etc.

The state medical board to which you are applying will undoubtedly have a lengthy document which will specify their rules in detail.
 
IamnotFreud said:
I have heard that Tx is a difficult to get license, which is a shame because I was seriously considering practicing in Tx in the future. What specifically makes it so hard to get though? I thought that they have a pretty big need for docs in my understanding.
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Because TX has the most conservative malpractice climate in the country. You basically need to actively kill a patient (like shoot them in the head in the middle of your H&P) to get a judgement against you in TX. So every physician with no interest in living somewhere that doesn't suck wants to work there. I'd personally take a lawsuit a week in PA over living in TX for a month, but I have standards.

But regardless of that, I don't have any criminal record whatsoever, only parking tickets in the past which I figure I don't have to report. I also don't have any academic issues per se either, but do have some funky dates and stuff regarding degree completion/graduation, etc and I'm applying for a MA limited license, which I have heard is a tough state. Maybe I am just being overly neurotic, but I am concerned.
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You are. Now will you please stop?
 
gutonc said:
Because TX has the most conservative malpractice climate in the country. You basically need to actively kill a patient (like shoot them in the head in the middle of your H&P) to get a judgement against you in TX. So every physician with no interest in living somewhere that doesn't suck wants to work there. I'd personally take a lawsuit a week in PA over living in TX for a month, but I have standards.

Lol, I do enjoy your posts sometimes.


You are. Now will you please stop?
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Sorry, not trying to be annoying or anything.
 
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Big thanks to the attendings who responded so far. Looks like the board just wants to know everything possible about a potential doc, which makes sense. As long as there is no serious question of moral character, looks like it's all good. As I've heard from others before, if you omit something, even if it's small, and they find it...it will be big trouble. So omitting something is usually worse than reporting and explaining it.

GF and I watched a show that talked about a former pharmacist who impersonated a MD 3 times! And with fatal consequences as well. I can see why they are so strict about verifying you are who you say you are.
 
Thanks to the attendings who replied. Very useful information!
 
IamnotFreud said:
Sorry, not trying to be annoying or anything, I have just worked very hard through a great deal of adversity and would hate to think that I can possibly come such a long way to potentially not get a license over timing mistakes/some poor planning on my end. Hopefully you and aPD are both right and this is all typical pre-licensing neurosis with not much to worry about.
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You are being neurotic.

Look at yourself in the mirror, take a shot of Jim Beam and slap yourself. Then get back to normal 4th year stuff like slacking off in class, planning a vacation to somewhere warm and skulking around Ikea thinking about all the things you'll buy with your first paycheck.
 
Winged Scapula said:
You are being neurotic.

Look at yourself in the mirror, take a shot of Jim Beam and slap yourself. Then get back to normal 4th year stuff like slacking off in class, planning a vacation to somewhere warm and skulking around Ikea thinking about all the things you'll buy with your first paycheck.
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🙂 I've already graduated and finished internship, going into advanced/PGY-2 which is in a different state than my internship. That's part of the problem among other things, that I have a gap between the end of internship and start of PGY-2. I hope you are right about being neurotic. Thanks to everyone who replied, it mildly eases my neurosis.

And btw WS-you should not leave the forum, I think you are a valuable contributor and you'll be missed if you do leave.
 
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IamnotFreud said:
Sorry, not trying to be annoying or anything, I have just worked very hard through a great deal of adversity and would hate to think that I can possibly come such a long way to potentially not get a license over timing mistakes/some poor planning on my end. Hopefully you and aPD are both right and this is all typical pre-licensing neurosis with not much to worry about.
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IamnotFreud said:
🙂 I've already graduated and finished internship, going into advanced/PGY-2 which is in a different state than my internship. That's part of the problem among other things, that I have a gap between the end of internship and start of PGY-2. I hope you are right about being neurotic. Thanks to everyone who replied, it mildly eases my neurosis.
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I'm right.

And btw WS-you should not leave the forum, I think you are a valuable contributor and you'll be missed if you do leave.
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IamnotFreud said:
Why is there a need to have this reviewed-again!
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Ok, this isn't typical, but here's a good example where people running things just trusted that someone else did their due diligence on a doc and on it went down the line http://www.theheart.org/article/1162023.do

That's why no one wants to trust that the other board, program, or hospital checked someone out thoroughly. If something gets missed, a hospital will be liable and isn't going to be able to claim well Big Fancy Hospital down the road let him practice there so we figured he was good, too.

Now as I said that's obviously not typical, but all you have to do is google "practicing medicine without a license" to see that there are quite a few cases out there.

Here's a real example I learned about in one of my classes. Just sit there shocked at how many places this guy practiced at before someone tried to shut him down. https://www.hlb.state.mn.us/bmp/disc/MOLSTAD, Brian R (PY20366)/MOLSTAD, Brian R 3-13-93.pdf (note: this is public info released by the board, but if there's a problem posting it here I can take it down or mods can)

That why you keep having to jump through those hoops. People get nailed in one state then moved to another. If you're a normal, reasonable doc, I'm sure you're fine.
 
wholeheartedly said:
Ok, this isn't typical, but here's a good example where people running things just trusted that someone else did their due diligence on a doc and on it went down the line http://www.theheart.org/article/1162023.do

That's why no one wants to trust that the other board, program, or hospital checked someone out thoroughly. If something gets missed, a hospital will be liable and isn't going to be able to claim well Big Fancy Hospital down the road let him practice there so we figured he was good, too.

Now as I said that's obviously not typical, but all you have to do is google "practicing medicine without a license" to see that there are quite a few cases out there.

Here's a real example I learned about in one of my classes. Just sit there shocked at how many places this guy practiced at before someone tried to shut him down. https://www.hlb.state.mn.us/bmp/disc/MOLSTAD, Brian R (PY20366)/MOLSTAD, Brian R 3-13-93.pdf (note: this is public info released by the board, but if there's a problem posting it here I can take it down or mods can)

That why you keep having to jump through those hoops. People get nailed in one state then moved to another. If you're a normal, reasonable doc, I'm sure you're fine.
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Of course, but even like you say, that' atypical. I don't have any problems with the board or the hospital even running a background check, etc. I have nothing to hide so in that regards I have nothing to worry about. But they want transcripts, and letters, and evaluations, etc. etc. I mean why do we have to prove our academics yet again-that's mostly my issue. If they want to drug test me, fingerprint me, etc to make sure I have a legit background-more power to them. But I have a problem with having to prove my academics over and over and over again.

Well I'm sending my application in soon so hopefully like most people say I'll be good. Thanks everyone.
 
Winged Scapula said:
You are being neurotic.

Look at yourself in the mirror, take a shot of Jim Beam and slap yourself. Then get back to normal 4th year stuff like slacking off in class, planning a vacation to somewhere warm and skulking around Ikea thinking about all the things you'll buy with your first paycheck.
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I love this advice and find it entirely transferable to my situation. :laugh:
 
Winged Scapula said:
👍

Its pretty much what I did. Some things never change (except my mother made me go to Ethan Allen and look at furniture).
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Ethan Allen, then Sherman Williams coordinating colors for the upgrades to your place that you never had time for as a resident, then using Google to find out what sconces and valences are. I might have been there too.

You'll get an innocuous looking sheet of privileges at your hospital when you're getting credentialed post-GME and the fun begins there as you have to prove yourself for the right to perform even the most mundane tasks. And people worry why their cases are turfed to specialists a lot of the time.

I just had a shot and slapped myself; I think I need to back to my therapist.
 
gutonc said:
I think you're getting worked up over nothing here. The biggest reasons that license apps get denied are mostly related to non-disclosure of basically any legal or academic issue, even if it's not that big of a deal. That is why we generally recommend disclosing any charge or conviction (civil, criminal, misdemeanor or worse) more dramatic than a speeding ticket. The other big reason that license apps get denied is prior revocation/denial of a license in another state or revocation of hospital privileges due to gross negligence.

Failing a class or 3 in undergrad or med school? No (assuming you graduate).
Losing or having a judgement in a malpractice suit? No (assuming it's not part of a pattern).
An MIP or Drunk and disorderly conviction during college? No (assuming you cop to it on your application).
DUI? Usually no, as long as you jump through their Impaired Physician hoops (again, assuming it's an isolated incident and not part of a pattern).
Academic dishonesty? If you got kicked out of a school for it, probably. Otherwise, probably not.
Academic probation? If they graduated you, no.
Misdemeanor drug bust? No (see MIP above).
Prison time? Sure. Jail time? Not necessarily.

Note that this doesn't necessarily mean that you won't have to appear in front of the board or at least offer written explanations for the issues. It will also likely delay your application but probably won't cause it to be rejected.

Finally, be aware that none of this applies in Texas. They'll reject your license application for being written with your left hand. but Texas sucks so who cares.
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So I'm in NY, filling out my pre-employment forms. The form clearly states report all convictions (including all traffic violations). I got a speeding ticket 1 year ago. I'm still fighting the ticket in court right now... so not convicted or dismissed.

What's the right thing to do? If I were to interpret what they wrote, it doesn't seem like I need to since I have not been convicted. I can also play it safe and disclose it as pending. Suggestions?
 
emboli said:
So I'm in NY, filling out my pre-employment forms. The form clearly states report all convictions (including all traffic violations). I got a speeding ticket 1 year ago. I'm still fighting the ticket in court right now... so not convicted or dismissed.

What's the right thing to do? If I were to interpret what they wrote, it doesn't seem like I need to since I have not been convicted. I can also play it safe and disclose it as pending. Suggestions?
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Just disclose it. Nobody will care.

You could argue that you don't need to disclose it (and I wouldn't personally argue that point with you), but you'll likely be arguing that from behind the counter at Starbuck's next October after your license was rejected for non-disclosure and you lost your residency spot.
 
gutonc said:
Just disclose it. Nobody will care.

You could argue that you don't need to disclose it (and I wouldn't personally argue that point with you), but you'll likely be arguing that from behind the counter at Starbuck's next October after your license was rejected for non-disclosure and you lost your residency spot.
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And you told me not to worry about anything!! Ahh!! Now I'm freaking out again. Sometimes despite our best efforts, we forget info or accidentally omit stuff. Now they can deny us a license over that? 🙁
 
IamnotFreud said:
I have heard that Tx is a difficult to get license, which is a shame because I was seriously considering practicing in Tx in the future. What specifically makes it so hard to get though? I thought that they have a pretty big need for docs in my understanding.

But regardless of that, I don't have any criminal record whatsoever, only parking tickets in the past which I figure I don't have to report. I also don't have any academic issues per se either, but do have some funky dates and stuff regarding degree completion/graduation, etc and I'm applying for a MA limited license, which I have heard is a tough state. Maybe I am just being overly neurotic, but I am concerned.
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Yes, it's difficult to get a Texas license, more so in that IT IS VERY SLOW. It took me 10 months to get mine and they ask for a ton of paperwork. Texas you have to take a Jurisprudence exam and pass, you have to get a separate DPS license before you can apply for a DEA license.

You have to understand that in places like Texas and Alaska the land is so vast that criminals go there to HIDE because they will never be found. So the rules are quite strict.


Oregon is equally difficult. Had to get my fingerprints done 3 times since they rejected the first 2 sets. Oregon is where they had a doctor who travelled and killed people in their rural hospitals. He was finally found in Australia and extradited back to Oregon. Oregon is very vast too so they are extremely careful who they give a license to.

Failed undergrad classes are nothing. As long as you have a clean background FBI check and no convictions you will be fine.
 
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cabinbuilder said:
Yes, it's difficult to get a Texas license, more so in that IT IS VERY SLOW. It took me 10 months to get mine and they ask for a ton of paperwork. Texas you have to take a Jurisprudence exam and pass, you have to get a separate DPS license before you can apply for a DEA license.

You have to understand that in places like Texas and Alaska the land is so vast that criminals go there to HIDE because they will never be found. So the rules are quite strict.


Oregon is equally difficult. Had to get my fingerprints done 3 times since they rejected the first 2 sets. Oregon is where they had a doctor who travelled and killed people in their rural hospitals. He was finally found in Australia and extridicted back to Oregon. Oregon is very vast too so they are extremely careful who they give a license to.

Failed undergrad classes are nothing. As long as you have a clean background FBI check and no convictions you will be fine.
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I remember you mentioning the Oregon thing. Kinda crazy! I don't personally have any failures or convictions of any kind, but do have some weird dates and hopefully they won't be an issue. I'm also foreign born although I've done all my schooling in the US - I hope that's not an issue!
 
IamnotFreud said:
I remember you mentioning the Oregon thing. Kinda crazy! I don't personally have any failures or convictions of any kind, but do have some weird dates and hopefully they won't be an issue. I'm also foreign born although I've done all my schooling in the US - I hope that's not an issue!
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Dude! C'mon...stop it. For realsies. You already got a license once right? Were you this worked up about it last year?
 
gutonc said:
Dude! C'mon...stop it. For realsies. You already got a license once right? Were you this worked up about it last year?
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I have a temporary license where I did internship, not a permanent one.
 
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IamnotFreud said:
I have a temporary license where I did internship, not a permanent one. I have a gap year, so last year I was not in a program. I was not worked up given that my internship license was processed in a matter of weeks - literally. I could not even begin to worry given that it was done so quickly before I could even think about it.
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gutonc is right: you're being extremely neurotic about this. The board doesn't care if you took a year off (as long as you werent in prison or drug rehab). They don't care if you weren't born in United States.

Most of the reason states take a long time to process these applications are simply for administrative reasons not because they're doing any CSI type of investigation into what exactly you were doing with your time off. Be honest and don't worry about it.
 
Winged Scapula said:
gutonc is right: you're being extremely neurotic about this. The board doesn't care if you took a year off (as long as you werent in prison or drug rehab). They don't care if you weren't born in United States.

Most of the reason states take a long time to process these applications are simply for administrative reasons not because they're doing any CSI type of investigation into what exactly you were doing with your time off. Be honest and don't worry about it.
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It's off! All the paperwork is sent, I did my best to convey stuff as accurately and honestly as possible, so hopefully it's all going to work out well. It's funny that you say it doesn't matter if someone was born in the US, but while I would hope that the avg administrative person would know that, when I did a rotation at one of the local VAs when I was a student, they asked for place of birth and stuff on their application. I wrote down where I was born but still showed them my US passport-the woman kept telling me I was a foreign/international student. It was maddening - I kept explaining to her that I was an American citizen, had been in the country for a longgggggg time, and had done all my schooling here in the US, I was simply born abroad. It took me numerous explanations telling her the same thing over and over and I still don't think she got it. I hope however that the people processing licenses are more with it.
 
Hi everyone -

I was hoping someone could help me out with a question I had regarding the DEA process in Texas. I currently reside in Texas and have already received my Texas medical license and Texas DPS number and am now getting ready to apply for the DEA. My problem is which address to use on the DEA site. I don't currently work (so no work address to give) and am in the process of searching for a job/interviewing, etc. Additionally, I will be moving from the current apt I live in to another apt, since my lease terminates in early July (but still apartment hunting, so don't have an actual address as far as where I will be moving to). I was wondering if I could provide my family's address in New York (I also have a New York state medical license). Will giving a New york address be a problem since I will be practicing in Texas? Is Texas a state that needs a Texas address for the DEA application or else the entire 700 + dollars will be forfeited? Thanks for the help!
 
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Hi everyone -

I was hoping someone could help me out with a question I had regarding the DEA process in Texas. I currently reside in Texas and have already received my Texas medical license and Texas DPS number and am now getting ready to apply for the DEA. My problem is which address to use on the DEA site. I don't currently work (so no work address to give) and am in the process of searching for a job/interviewing, etc. Additionally, I will be moving from the current apt I live in to another apt, since my lease terminates in early July (but still apartment hunting, so don't have an actual address as far as where I will be moving to). I was wondering if I could provide my family's address in New York (I also have a New York state medical license). Will giving a New york address be a problem since I will be practicing in Texas? Is Texas a state that needs a Texas address for the DEA application or else the entire 700 + dollars will be forfeited? Thanks for the help!
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You have to have a place of business address in the same state where you will be practicing. This is a DEA requirement not a state requirement. Thus, if you move to Texas but have a NY address on your DEA, you have to apply for a modification of the license. Not a big deal and it doesn't require a new fee.

I also would not recommend using your family's address as your DEA address can be/is public record; your family probably doesn't want their home address on line.
 
capecod said:
Hi everyone -

I was hoping someone could help me out with a question I had regarding the DEA process in Texas. I currently reside in Texas and have already received my Texas medical license and Texas DPS number and am now getting ready to apply for the DEA. My problem is which address to use on the DEA site. I don't currently work (so no work address to give) and am in the process of searching for a job/interviewing, etc. Additionally, I will be moving from the current apt I live in to another apt, since my lease terminates in early July (but still apartment hunting, so don't have an actual address as far as where I will be moving to). I was wondering if I could provide my family's address in New York (I also have a New York state medical license). Will giving a New york address be a problem since I will be practicing in Texas? Is Texas a state that needs a Texas address for the DEA application or else the entire 700 + dollars will be forfeited? Thanks for the help!
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I will caution you, there is a new lady who works at the TX DPS office who is very by the book.. Your DPS and DEA when in TX have to reflect the SAME work address. You cannot use an address in a different state for either if you are going to work in Texas. You will be flagged and will need to have the correct paperwork in order to be cleared to write Rx in Texas. I had this same problem about 3 months ago as I am locums. I was using my address for the DPS in Oregon. I had to have it changed to reflect my locums company who is located in Dallas so there would be a TX address on the DPS.
 
Winged Scapula said:
You have to have a place of business address in the same state where you will be practicing. This is a DEA requirement not a state requirement. Thus, if you move to Texas but have a NY address on your DEA, you have to apply for a modification of the license. Not a big deal and it doesn't require a new fee.

I also would not recommend using your family's address as your DEA address can be/is public record; your family probably doesn't want their home address on line.
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I'm having a similar issue. So I'm a resident in NY and want to moonlight at a VA here. I have a wisconsin license, but no DEA #. If I want to moonlight at the VA, they require a DEA#, but will accept any state license. Is it possible to get a DEA# without being employed or physically living in WI? They are telling me I need to give a business address in WI...
 
biryani86 said:
I'm having a similar issue. So I'm a resident in NY and want to moonlight at a VA here. I have a wisconsin license, but no DEA #. If I want to moonlight at the VA, they require a DEA#, but will accept any state license. Is it possible to get a DEA# without being employed or physically living in WI? They are telling me I need to give a business address in WI...
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I think in your case you'll want to let the DEA know that this is for the federal government but also you get your DEA for free working for the feds.
 
Do you think the VA will pay for it, even if I'm doing MOD shifts at VA, and not full-time?
 
Trying to troubleshoot my DEA application, and can't figure out who the point of contact should be to certify that I can be exempt. Also, not sure if being a resident at the VA would suffice in exemption... Any suggestions?

(Taken from DEA application instructions http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drugreg/reg_apps/224/224_instruct.htm)
"SECTION 6. EXEMPTION FROM APPLICATION FEE
Exemption from payment of application fee is limited to federal, state or local government official or institution. The applicant's superior or agency officer must certify exempt status. The signature, authority title, and telephone number of the certifying official (other than the applicant) must be provided. The address of the fee exempt institution must appear in Section 1."
 
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