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Is there a list somewhere of which schools silent reject and which reject immediately after application review?


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I think it's a bit more nuanced than that. A lot of schools either send out rejections in waves or will reject anyone who didn't get an interview sometime in the spring. By silent reject do you mean schools that won't send you a notification at all? Or do you mean schools that won't until the end of the cycle.
 
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Harvard, Columbia, Yale, Duke all wait until the end of their app cycle to reject

Stanford, Hopkins, Cornell, Penn, UCSF, Vanderbilt, and Pitt reject in waves

This is not a comprehensive list, just what I could think of off the top of my head.
 

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Harvard, Columbia, Yale, Duke all wait until the end of their app cycle to reject

Stanford, Hopkins, Cornell, Penn, UCSF, Vanderbilt, and Pitt reject in waves

This is not a comprehensive list, just what I could think of off the top of my head.
Georgetown also rejects in waves. Personal experience unfortunately.
 

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I think it's a bit more nuanced than that. A lot of schools either send out rejections in waves or will reject anyone who didn't get an interview sometime in the spring. By silent reject do you mean schools that won't send you a notification at all? Or do you mean schools that won't until the end of the cycle.
What is the definition of silent rejection? I initially thought silent rejection = no news after last interviews given out.
 
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What is the definition of silent rejection? I initially thought silent rejection = no news after last interviews given out.
I personally took it to mean the schools who give you no information one way or the other after your secondary is complete and just kind of fade away without telling you that you're rejected.
 

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I personally took it to mean the schools who give you no information one way or the other after your secondary is complete and just kind of fade away without telling you that you're rejected.
So does it mean that silent, post-interview rejections don't exist?
 
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Well I didn't consider that since I didn't get an interview last year :laugh:
Sorry to hear that. Hopefully, this cycle goes much more successfully! :luck::luck:

Just trying to understand what silent rejections mean, since apparently, the conventional wisdom here is that immediate, fast rejections >>>> silent rejections any day. Being shot down stings but it's better than being strung along and left hanging. But it depends on what silent means and whether there is a way to predict them

If medical schools are willing to interview you, it stands to reason that they wouldn't leave you in the dark. But this could be wrong since there's the case of waitlists.
 

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I got the dreaded "screener's alternate" email from SIU Med School today. No one in the past couple cycles has ever gotten a secondary after that email. So basically its a rejection that gives the uninformed false hope. So disappointed right now. SIU was my first choice. Guess it wasn't meant to be....
 
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Harvard, Columbia, Yale, Duke all wait until the end of their app cycle to reject

Stanford, Hopkins, Cornell, Penn, UCSF, Vanderbilt, and Pitt reject in waves

This is not a comprehensive list, just what I could think of off the top of my head.
Some of these schools don't send rejection letters at all to some people, which is what a silent rejection has historically been considered. So some of these that WedgeDawg listed are silent, at least some of the time. Stanford definitely doesn't always reject via letter or email.
 
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Some of these schools don't send rejection letters at all to some people, which is what a silent rejection has historically been considered. So some of these that WedgeDawg listed are silent, at least some of the time. Stanford definitely doesn't always reject via letter or email.
I actually might have ended up silent rejected from Stanford if I hadn't withdrawn, but I know people who got rejected earlier, so I assumed it was in waves - could definitely be wrong though!
 

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I actually might have ended up silent rejected from Stanford if I hadn't withdrawn, but I know people who got rejected earlier, so I assumed it was in waves - could definitely be wrong though!
Yeah I think it just isn't cut and dry. It can be both. Because I remember people getting rejections from Stanford and thinking I had stayed alive but then never heard anything at all.
 

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I applied last year and got no II and no response at all from most schools. Very disappointed and very disrespectful from schools in my opinion. You shouldn't be allowed to charge us for a primary and secondary and not send us a lousy email saying sorry your not in.
 
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^ I am finding it out the hard way that II is a huge privilege to have (like I didn't underestimate it and held real expectations but man the wait is pretty long). It is also about where you apply to schools in terms of your stats. Which schools did not respond to you btw?
 

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I specifically rembering NYIT. Touro told me in May. Cooper Rowan never got back to me. I don't remember the rest tbh. Maybe I was a bad applicant. :bang:
 
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I specifically rembering NYIT. Touro told me in May. Cooper Rowan never got back to me. I don't remember the rest tbh. Maybe I was a bad applicant. :bang:
I don't know how aacomas schools do it but so far the amcas ones have been straightforward about their timeline. I turned in my aacomas a little bit later than amcas but around the same timeline, I'm expecting their communication to be delayed since their cycle is wider. The communication is getting very lengthy due to it becoming a busy period of time but overall, schools that are burdened have been sending emails regarding how long it'll take them to reach a decision. It's weird how I have to assess silence currently cause there are people getting tons of IIs and then there are those with none (so like what's going on lol).
 

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So would you get at least a "rejected" message at the portal at the end of the cycle? Because it can get confusing if at the end of the cycle and you still don't know if you should keep the hope of getting II...
 

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I applied last year and got no II and no response at all from most schools. Very disappointed and very disrespectful from schools in my opinion. You shouldn't be allowed to charge us for a primary and secondary and not send us a lousy email saying sorry your not in.
+1. AAMC should make a rule to have schools to send out official decision letters to justify their application fees.
 
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Most of time one's app is ranked and if it didn't make the cut for interview right away, then it's still contending for II later in cycle depending on how competitive rest of application pool is. Med schools want to keep their options open and they don't owe us anything. Sometimes, significant updates or even a re-review without a significant update will land one an II later in cycle.

II decisions are made from July to early spring, and until one gets a rejection, it is possible to still receive an II.
 

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Miami definitely silent rejects. I didn't get their rejection letter till after I matriculated to my school in July


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Let's try to keep this on topic. I'm trying to create a list as a tool for present/future cycles.
So far:

Silent:
Emory
Harvard
Columbia
Yale
Duke
Northwestern
Miami

Waves:
Stanford
Hopkins
Cornell
Penn
UCSF
Vanderbilt
Pitt
Georgetown
 

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Sends Rejection at End of Cycle:
Loyola University
Rush University

Waves:
Rosalind Franklin
University of Illinois
Western Michigan/Stryker
Medical College of Wisconsin


But also, even at the schools that send in waves, you can be held until the end
 
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I applied last year and got no II and no response at all from most schools. Very disappointed and very disrespectful from schools in my opinion. You shouldn't be allowed to charge us for a primary and secondary and not send us a lousy email saying sorry your not in.
Medical school admissions offices don't owe you or anyone else closure. You're playing their game, not the other way around. To call it disrespect is a bit much.


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the concept of silent rejection is too absolute to how the mechanics of the admissions process works. With several thousand applications being evaluated, each applicant gets a summary/cover sheet with all the parts of their application evaluated/scored. Think of this conceptually similar to AP scores from Extremely well qualified, well qualified, qualified, below average, unqualified. At every point in the process an application will sit in one of these categories. Unqualifieds may get immediate rejection. Extremely well qualified get prioritize for first II , well qualified soon after. The rest are sitting in this qualified pile that may have had everything in by early july but may not get called for interview until feburary.

Now, of course, the above classifications are not evenly distributed and at least 80% of students at any given school will be in qualified or below, which will likely lead to ultimate rejection.

Let me also add that all metrics, academic, EC, PS, all secondaries question, etc will be used in the above general conceptual classification scheme about. So an applicant who is average or below average GPA or MCAT, may be considered extremely well qualified in other areas, thus raising the overall to well-qualified and probable interview slot.

So many schools will not assign all acceptances, WL, and rejections until late in the cycle
 

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Medical school admissions offices don't owe you or anyone else closure. You're playing their game, not the other way around. To call it disrespect is a bit much.


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For our money, time, and effort, they could assemble their lazy asses and send us a free automated email. Rejection or not. Medical school may be a privilege, but it's still a business, never forget that.
 
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This cycle, I noticed that Oakland and Albany sent out rejections in batches.
 
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GW puts you on hold indefinitely and then rejects you weeks later. Unsure if by waves or silent until interviews are over.
Howard also rejects at the end of the application cycle. I didn't get a rejection from Howard last cycle until the end of May lol.
 
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Stony Brook University sends out in waves....I don't know if you also are including DO schools, but Campbell University rejects in waves as well, but I've heard from many that LECOM does silent rejections
 
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Stony Brook University sends out in waves....I don't know if you also are including DO schools, but Campbell University rejects in waves as well, but I've heard from many that LECOM does silent rejections
I got a rejection from LECOM-B pre-interview this past week or so, so my guess is that they send them in waves.
 

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Someone posted in the LECOM thread that their application from last year has a status that shows it is still under review...so they may have just forgot about some who applied
 

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Jefferson is literally the definition of silent rejection.
 

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Silent:
Emory
Harvard
Columbia
Yale
Duke
Northwestern
Miami

Waves:
Boston
Stanford
Hopkins
Cornell
Penn
UCSF
Vanderbilt
Pitt
Georgetown
 

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Harvard
Columbia
Yale
Duke
Northwestern
Miami

Waves:
Boston
Stanford
Hopkins
Cornell
Penn
UCSF
Vanderbilt
Pitt
Georgetown
UChicago
UCI
 

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So since Hopkins does rejections in waves: does that mean because I haven't heard anything since my secondary was complete, that I'm still good?
 
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Silent:
Columbia
Duke
Emory
Harvard
Miami
Northwestern
Yale


Waves (/Babbling Brooks):
Boston
Cornell
Georgetown
Hopkins
Penn
Pitt
Stanford
Stonybrook
Tulane
Vanderbilt
UChicago
UCI
UCSF
U Wisconsin
 

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Silent/Rejects at End of Cycle:
Columbia
Duke
Emory
Harvard
Miami
Northwestern
Loyola/Stritch
Yale


Waves (/Babbling Brooks):
Boston
Carver
Cornell
Georgetown
Hopkins
Medical College of Wisconsin
Penn
Pitt
Rosalind Franklin
Southern Illinois

Stanford
Stonybrook
Stryker
Tulane
Vanderbilt
UChicago
UCI
UCSF
UIllinois
U Wisconsin
 

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