LizzyM Calculator

[sophop]

I know that it must be a ton of work to do it, but is the LizzyM Calculator going to be updated for this cycle? I am helping a couple of friends with their lists and have showed them WARS, but the calculator was also helpful for me.

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[chaim123]

I know that it must be a ton of work to do it, but is the LizzyM Calculator going to be updated for this cycle? I am helping a couple of friends with their lists and have showed them WARS, but the calculator was also helpful for me.

I don't know the answer to this, but if your friends don't have the MSAR, that is going to be much more helpful to determining fit with a school than trying to create one number out of your application.

 

[sophop]

I agree that the MSAR is golden for granular analysis, but I guess I just enjoy the mechanics of the calculator.

 

[altblue]

I agree that the MSAR is golden for granular analysis, but I guess I just enjoy the mechanics of the calculator.

The calculator has had conversions for a while now lol. You can use it.

 

[Goro]

I know that it must be a ton of work to do it, but is the LizzyM Calculator going to be updated for this cycle? I am helping a couple of friends with their lists and have showed them WARS, but the calculator was also helpful for me.

Here's my rough version of an update:
GPA x the last two numbers of the new exam's score.

So the median for all acceptees (3.7, 511) = 3.7 x 11 = 40.7

Harvard 3.9, 519 = 3.9 x 19 =74.1

Your cGPA must be > 3.4.
IF you have a steep rising GPA trend, use the GPA from the last two years only.

 

[bbdylan87]

I have a quick question regarding the LizzyM calculator. Say I got a 513 MCAT score and a 4.0 GPA. According to AAMC, a 513 means I scored above 89% of all students, and a 4.0 is clearly above the national average as well. That being said, why is the LizzyM calculator telling me I have stats that are better than 87% of the total applicants? The MCAT alone should allow me to have better stats than 89% of the population without even taking the GPA into account. Am I misinterpreting the results here? It seems that this deflation only applies to the higher scores with the cutoff being a 513.

 

[Lucca]

I have a quick question regarding the LizzyM calculator. Say I got a 513 MCAT score and a 4.0 GPA. According to AAMC, a 513 means I scored above 89% of all students, and a 4.0 is clearly above the national average as well. That being said, why is the LizzyM calculator telling me I have stats that are better than 87% of the total applicants? The MCAT alone should allow me to have better stats than 89% of the population without even taking the GPA into account. Am I misinterpreting the results here? It seems that this deflation only applies to the higher scores with the cutoff being a 513.

89th %ile MCAt means that your MCAT is better than 89% of MCAT test takers. The LizzyM calculator tells you where you stand relative to all APPLICANTS. Average applicant MCAT is about 505 and average applicant GPA is about 3.56.

 

[bbdylan87]

89th %ile MCAt means that your MCAT is better than 89% of MCAT test takers. The LizzyM calculator tells you where you stand relative to all APPLICANTS. Average applicant MCAT is about 505 and average applicant GPA is about 3.56.

I see, so the MCAT distribution takes into account EVERYONE who took the test (even those who will not apply due to a poor test score, thus pulling the AAMC average down to 500), whereas LizzyM calculator uses information for those who applied (those with low MCAT scores who were counted in the AAMC poll will thus not be included in this calculation). Is that correct?

 

[Lucca]

I see, so the MCAT distribution takes into account EVERYONE who took the test (even those who will not apply due to a poor test score, thus pulling the AAMC average down to 500), whereas LizzyM calculator uses information for those who applied (those with low MCAT scores who were counted in the AAMC poll will thus not be included in this calculation). Is that correct?

Yes, they are two totally different populations. A >3.8 GPA is really good, all things considered. However, about 25% of applicants have a GPA >=3.8.

The reason you see deviation from the national pool starting at a 513 MCAT is because the mean and SD for applicants is 505 +- 9.4. So a 513 is around the line where you move into 2 SDs from the mean.

 

[theKingLT]

I have a quick question regarding the LizzyM calculator. Say I got a 513 MCAT score and a 4.0 GPA. According to AAMC, a 513 means I scored above 89% of all students, and a 4.0 is clearly above the national average as well. That being said, why is the LizzyM calculator telling me I have stats that are better than 87% of the total applicants? The MCAT alone should allow me to have better stats than 89% of the population without even taking the GPA into account. Am I misinterpreting the results here? It seems that this deflation only applies to the higher scores with the cutoff being a 513.

I think its because LizzyM shows applicant data while the mcat percentiles are based on their standardization against everyone taking the test. Many of the sub-500 scores (which are half the scores) won't end up applying with that score so when it comes to actual applicants, a 513 is probably quite a bit lower than 89th percentile