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Great information, thanks

 

[Lost in Translation]

From what I've seen, many schools interview 600-800 people, regardless of what tier they are. Class sizes range from 110-150ish, I wouldn't know how many acceptances they hand out per seat, it can't be more than 3 though, even for safety schools.

 

[gonnif]

Obviously this question varies greatly by school with some giving out under 2 acceptances per spot and others giving out 4+.

What trends do you see based on the quality of applicants? Do the top schools, Harvard, Wash, Hopkins etc. give out lots of acceptances since they are all competing for the top X% of applicants? What about schools with average MCATs 30 or less (Do these schools also need to hand out a lot of acceptances since they tend to be viewed as safety schools)? How about the mid tiers 31-33, or the schools taking 33-35 MCAT scorers?

It's interesting to see the variation as some schools interview about 2 applicants per 1 spot and other schools interview closer to 7-10. Any insights from Adcoms would be great!

I have a great deal of data on this and will pass on the on the most important piece. It doesnt matter, end of statement. Once your app is there, and the processing, interviewing, etc is done, the acceptance per seat and the WL per seat vary widely by school and by cycle. Knowing them, trying to somehow read the tea leaves are completely speculative and do nothing but add to anxiety and OCD behavior that is yet another stage of Psychotic Reactionary Event Manifestation Exclusionary Disorder (PREMED), a proposed addition to the DSM-IV. It is a disorder that is a psychotic reaction the events around applying to medical schools that manifests itself in the exclusion of rational thought. Seemingly highly intelligent, high achieving students are most susceptible to this disorder. Loss of major rational thought and reactions to unsubstantiated beliefs, rumors, innuendos, and other irrational and illogical cognitive processes. A form of collective behavior.

 

[terra330]

My understanding is that it's 2.5-3 offers per seat at most schools. Caveat being that many of those additional offers will be pulled off the wait list, not necessarily within the usual 1-2 months after interview.

 

[w0rldw3y3d]

My understanding is that it's 2.5-3 offers per seat at most schools. Caveat being that many of those additional offers will be pulled off the wait list, not necessarily within the usual 1-2 months after interview.

This is what I have been told. It varies, but at most 3X, at least 2X the number of seats.

 

[medicalCPA]

While I agree that it really doesn't matter, especially at this point, I still would like to know. Mostly to soothe my PREMED, but I think it's also something I'm genuinely curious about. It's been really interesting learning how admissions works as I've gone through the cycle and would like to understand more.

If you want the data, get yourself a subscription to US News Compass. It will tell you the number of people a medical school has to admit in order to fill up its class.

I think it's interesting to find out that not all people accepted to Harvard end up going there, although it has the highest yield of all schools I've looked at, ~70%. Penn's yield is ~65%, Stanford's is ~54%, and Hopkins' is ~50%. Yale's is ~35%, and NYU's is 28%.

The inverse of each fraction will tell you how many students the school accepts per seat in its class.

 

[w0rldw3y3d]

If you want the data, get yourself a subscription to US News Compass. It will tell you the number of people a medical school has to admit in order to fill up its class.

I think it's interesting to find out that not all people accepted to Harvard end up going there, although it has the highest yield of all schools I've looked at, ~70%. Penn's yield is ~65%, Stanford's is ~54%, and Hopkins' is ~50%. Yale's is ~35%, and NYU's is 28%.

The inverse of each fraction will tell you how many students the school accepts per seat in its class.

That is a brilliant post! Would you mind sharing the percentages for UT Southwestern and Baylor? I'm dying of curiosity, and frankly can't afford the $30 just for those two percentage values haha.

 

[Krupke]

It is really school specific and doesn't really follow a trend. Like Tulane only interviews 500 for a class of 190 and students there say that they accept about 250-300 students. They screen heavily for fit before giving interviews, so they have a high yield.

NYMC has a 40% yield, which is better than NYU's yield. NYU is focused on ranking so they cast a wide net to catch the top-school level students who don't make it into a top 10 schools, whereas NYMC is probably better at targeting the students who would actually matriculate there.

 

[medicalCPA]

That is a brilliant post! Would you mind sharing the percentages for UT Southwestern and Baylor? I'm dying of curiosity, and frankly can't afford the $30 just for those two percentage values haha.

Baylor's yield is ~60%, and UTSW's is 51%.

Yield data is not the only thing your subscription will get you. Acceptance data is broken down for women, minorities, and international students, you get Step 1 score information, and the most common specialties a school's graduates match into.

I got it mainly to see what my chances were as an international student at the schools that had offered me interviews.

 

[Goro]

This is what it is at my school, and LizzyM and gyngyn have voiced similar comments.

People get pulled from wait lists starting in May and later. It might happen literally the day before orientation.

Here's how it shakes out at my school:

> 6000 apps (might hit 6500 this cycle)
~500 IIs
accept ~250
seat ~100

My understanding is that it's 2.5-3 offers per seat at most schools. Caveat being that many of those additional offers will be pulled off the wait list, not necessarily within the usual 1-2 months after interview.

 

[medicalCPA]

Thank you so much for your posts; they were seriously incredibly helpful. I had no idea that all that information was available on US News! I should have bought that over MSAR :/

In case anyone reads this and is influenced by this line of reasoning, MSAR is by far the more useful of the two, and if you can only get one of them, get the MSAR. US News does not have data on unranked schools, and if you're interested in a school that happens to be unranked (e.g. Tulane, which was mentioned above), you're SOL.

Edited to add: Ideally, you should get both MSAR and US News Compass. Each has strengths that complement the other, and each has data that the other does not. Only go with MSAR if you cannot afford to get the two, and you have to settle on which one to buy.

 

[Flashfan]

In case anyone reads this and is influenced by this line of reasoning, MSAR is by far the more useful of the two, and if you can only get one of them, get the MSAR.

US News was invaluable to me. I was able to apply to OOS publics by determining the applicant to interview ratio. If I had just used the MSAR, I would have ignored two of the schools that gave m interviews. Also, it has the Step scores. Applying to med school is expensive, but it was worth it to have both.

 

[medicalCPA]

US News was invaluable to me. I was able to apply to OOS publics by determining the applicant to interview ratio. If I had just used the MSAR, I would have ignored two of the schools that gave m interviews. Also, it has the Step scores. Applying to med school is expensive, but it was worth it to have both.

Ideally you'd get both. The strength of each complements the other. If you cannot get the two of them and need to pick just one, I would recommend MSAR. But my post does not make that clear, so I edited it.

 

[piii]

While I agree that it really doesn't matter, especially at this point, I still would like to know. Mostly to soothe my PREMED, but I think it's also something I'm genuinely curious about. It's been really interesting learning how admissions works as I've gone through the cycle and would like to understand more.

Well because it is speculation and the speculative answers never change, you should have really done a proper search on SDN because this has been answered 1000 times.