Looking back, What would you have done differently?

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So given that you have gotten this far into the admissions process, you are probably panicking and itching to get your admissions report back right?

For advise for freshman, sophmores, and juniors (i'm a freshman), What are some of the things you thought you did wrong or something you should have worked harder at that would have made a difference in your medical admissions process that you wish you could have done before?

This could range from working harder to improve GPA, securing better internships, securing better friendships with professors, starting applications earlier....etc...

I'm just interested because I'm a frshmen premed looking around for any advise upperclassmen can give to me/us. lol👍
 
So given that you have gotten this far into the admissions process, you are probably panicking and itching to get your admissions report back right?

For advise for freshman, sophmores, and juniors (i'm a freshman), What are some of the things you thought you did wrong or something you should have worked harder at that would have made a difference in your medical admissions process that you wish you could have done before?

This could range from working harder to improve GPA, securing better internships, securing better friendships with professors, starting applications earlier....etc...

I'm just interested because I'm a frshmen premed looking around for any advise upperclassmen can give to me/us. lol👍

I wish I would have:

A. tried harder my freshman and sophmore year.
B. Waited to do the MCAT till I knew I would do ok
C. Applied last year
D. Written a better primary essay
E. Taken biochemistry and the second half of Anatomy/Physiology
F. Worked hard and publish at least one research paper
 
Apply early. I applied as early as I could, but a month or two earlier would have saved me a ton of anxiety, and from talking to adcom members, gotten me into a couple more schools.
 
Apply early. I applied as early as I could, but a month or two earlier would have saved me a ton of anxiety, and from talking to adcom members, gotten me into a couple more schools.


when did you apply?
 
when did you apply?

I took the August MCAT, had everything ready and submitted it the day my score was in. I couldn't tell you when that was anymore (repressed memories much?) but then I was delayed by a few more weeks at some schools by a lor problem. I specifically had one dean of admission tell me flat out that I would have been admitted if I applied earlier. It all worked out for the best, but definitely added some extra stress to the process.

I would imagine that with all the different mcat dates now this has changed substantially.
 
i don't believe in fate, but everything has worked out eerily well for me. if i hadn't taken time off after college, i probably would have burned out in medical school and i certainly would not have enjoyed the financial success that i did as a result of selling my company. i probably would have ended up marrying my ex because i figured that was as happy as i could be. i wouldn't have met my new girlfriend who is... incredible. my application was a little late but i still got in to a great school that i'm very excited to attend.

my new year's resolution this year was "No Regrets." so far, it's working out pretty well. i really think things have a way of working out for the best.
 
So given that you have gotten this far into the admissions process, you are probably panicking and itching to get your admissions report back right?

For advise for freshman, sophmores, and juniors (i'm a freshman), What are some of the things you thought you did wrong or something you should have worked harder at that would have made a difference in your medical admissions process that you wish you could have done before?

This could range from working harder to improve GPA, securing better internships, securing better friendships with professors, starting applications earlier....etc...

I'm just interested because I'm a frshmen premed looking around for any advise upperclassmen can give to me/us. lol👍
take the easiest classes/professors you can. You obviously want to learn the material for MCAT, but other than that, you want to get as many As as you can. For instance, don't take anything honors (because you want to "challenge" yourself and all that crap, like I did), nobody's going to care, there is just way too many applicants and way too little time. Better spend that extra time you'll have on something you are trully passionate about, like reasearch, volunteering, plaing sports, music, whatever. You want to take an easy class and get an easy A.

And apply as early as it is possible. That means planning ahead: your personal statement, your LORs, etc.

Med School admissions is a game, and you gotta be good at the game to do well
 
So given that you have gotten this far into the admissions process, you are probably panicking and itching to get your admissions report back right?

For advise for freshman, sophmores, and juniors (i'm a freshman), What are some of the things you thought you did wrong or something you should have worked harder at that would have made a difference in your medical admissions process that you wish you could have done before?

This could range from working harder to improve GPA, securing better internships, securing better friendships with professors, starting applications earlier....etc...

I'm just interested because I'm a frshmen premed looking around for any advise upperclassmen can give to me/us. lol👍

my specific advice is to take some time off after college before starting med school (at least 2 years; if you only take 1 then you're applying at the end of your senior year and you become so wrapped up in the application process that it's like no time off at all. i ended up taking 4). there's a good chance it could make you a better medical student, and it will probably make you a more interesting person, too.

$0.02
 
a) not got involved with the pre-med club on my campus my freshman year. trust me, they will only stress you out.
b)only apply to schools that you really would go to. applying is so freakin' expensive.
c) traveled more!
d) don't listen to other pre-med sophomores/freshman about what major is best/what classes are best/what professors to take/what you need to do.. blah blah blah. they really don't know what they are talking about. do what is best for you.
e)don't take 21 credit hours of science classes in one semester like i have done in the past. i would have like 3 tests a week nonstop for 3 months. it sucked!
 
take the easiest classes/professors you can. You obviously want to learn the material for MCAT, but other than that, you want to get as many As as you can. For instance, don't take anything honors (because you want to "challenge" yourself and all that crap, like I did), nobody's going to care. Better spend that extra time you'll have on something you are trully passionate about, like reasearch, volunteering, plaing sports, music, whatever. You want to take an easy class and get an easy A.

Med School admissions is a game, and you gotta be good at the game to do well

this is pretty sh*tty advice. what if the OP finds something about which he/she is passionate in the academic world? what if he/she enjoys an intellectual challenge? oh no, better not take any interesting upper level courses, it might hurt my med school app! once you do get to med school, you'll be glad you had some challenging courses to help hone your study skills, because there are many fewer "easy classes" and "easy profs" there.

once people learn to stop thinking like this (i.e. "med school admissions is a game lol") they break free from the trajectory of a zillion other average applicants and do interesting things that make them interesting applicants and well-rounded people.
 
I would have left SDN alone till I was almost ready to apply - damn place is addictive!
 
this is pretty sh*tty advice. what if the OP finds something about which he/she is passionate in the academic world? what if he/she enjoys an intellectual challenge? oh no, better not take any interesting upper level courses, it might hurt my med school app! once you do get to med school, you'll be glad you had some challenging courses to help hone your study skills, because there are many fewer "easy classes" and "easy profs" there.

once people learn to stop thinking like this (i.e. "med school admissions is a game lol") they break free from the trajectory of a zillion other average applicants and do interesting things that make them interesting applicants and well-rounded people.


Agreed! I loved my honors classes and my upper level classes! My gpa in my honors classes was significantly better than the rest of my gpa and it made going to class worthwhile. I actually did worst in the BS classes people told me to take because they were easy. No, listening to 18 lectures on Hans Christian Andersen in one day will not be like story time :laugh:
 
Do everything exactly the opposite of whatever the stereotype is for your gender/race/economic status/major/hair color/body type/area of country/etc...

In other words, above all, try to be unlike anyone else in as many areas as possible.
 
Do everything exactly the opposite of whatever the stereotype is for your gender/race/economic status/major/hair color/body type/area of country/etc...

In other words, above all, try to be unlike anyone else in as many areas as possible.


I'm not sure you have to try to be different in every way, but find a way to make yourself stand out. Seeming interesting and well rounded at an interview is a lot easier when your talking about random interests like water skiing and living in africa than if you have nothing to talk about but your involvement with the pre-med society.
 
1. Found out about SDN waaaay earlier.
2. Gone to an easier school (There's a motto where I live: U of T is where you go to have your dreams die. Mine are barely breathing).
 
I took the August MCAT, had everything ready and submitted it the day my score was in. I couldn't tell you when that was anymore (repressed memories much?) but then I was delayed by a few more weeks at some schools by a lor problem. I specifically had one dean of admission tell me flat out that I would have been admitted if I applied earlier. It all worked out for the best, but definitely added some extra stress to the process.

I would imagine that with all the different mcat dates now this has changed substantially.

well I'm glad it worked out 👍 but I'll keep this in mind when my turn comes around 😉 the less stress the better
 
1. Found out about SDN waaaay earlier.
2. Gone to an easier school.

I thought about transfering to an "easier" school my freshman year because it seemed like I could get better grades and have an easier time getting into med school. I decided that I was too happy to leave, and when I got to my interviews and realized that there were very few students who went to the "easy" schools, I was glad I didn't.

Also, while taking part of an organic chemistry exam in crayon may seem funny to your over-tired, over-caffienated brain, it's a bad plan. 😳
 
I wish that I had focused more on what's actually required for med school rather than what the average premed thinks is required. No, you don't have to take every bio, chem, biochem, math and phys class to get to med school. That way I would have spread out my prereq coursework more effectively without wondering if I was going to have them completed in time-- I would have been much more relaxed when it came to the academics.
 
I thought about transfering to an "easier" school my freshman year because it seemed like I could get better grades and have an easier time getting into med school. I decided that I was too happy to leave, and when I got to my interviews and realized that there were very few students who went to the "easy" schools, I was glad I didn't.

Also, while taking part of an organic chemistry exam in crayon may seem funny to your over-tired, over-caffienated brain, it's a bad plan. 😳

Canadian system is very different from U.S system. I have a friend who transferred out of his second year here at U of T to Ohio State (he's an American citizen), and guess what, his gpa improved from 2.8 to 3.9 (there are lots of stories like this all over campus)! Even all my Princeton Review teachers told us that they felt sorry for us for staying at U of T. Even going to some other Canadian school might have saved our gpas. Oh well, too late now.

Also, I don't understand the part of your statement that I put into bold.
 
Canadian system is very different from U.S system. I have a friend who transferred out of his second year here at U of T to Ohio State (he's an American citizen), and guess what, his gpa improved from 2.8 to 3.9 (there are lots of stories like this all over campus)! Even all my Princeton Review teachers told us that they felt sorry for us for staying at U of T. Even going to some other Canadian school might have saved our gpas. Oh well, too late now.

Also, I don't understand the part of your statement that I put into bold.


freshman year, I went to the library to study for orgo with my education major roommate. She was working on a project with crayons, and practicing my structures, etc. in crayon was a bit of a stress reliever. We were joking about situational memory, and how I would do better on the test if I wrote in blue crayon, she dared me to do it. Unfortunately the TA didn't find it as funny as I did...
 
freshman year, I went to the library to study for orgo with my education major roommate. She was working on a project with crayons, and practicing my structures, etc. in crayon was a bit of a stress reliever. We were joking about situational memory, and how I would do better on the test if I wrote in blue crayon, she dared me to do it. Unfortunately the TA didn't find it as funny as I did...

:laugh:
 
I would have taken an additional year, so that I could take the MCAT before my cycle and turn in my applications the first day possible for submission. Also, my EC's would have developed more. I also would have done SMDEP. Finally, I would have never turned in my AP scores. If I had known I would have to take extra english and math courses, I would have never done it.
 
The only thing on my application I would change.....my undergrad GPA.

Unfortunately that was set in stone when I graduated eight years ago (c/o 2000). But some things work out for the best. I was pre-vet back in undergrad but never applied because I didn't have the GPA. So if I had a 4.0 I would have gone to vet school and then realized I was miserable (and I never would have met my husband!!!). I am SO GLAD I didn't go to vet school, spay-neuter-declaw-spay-neuter-declaw is not for ME. So things have a way of turning out. I may not get into my very top choice med school, but I'm still going to starting medical school this fall!
 
I would have become a CNA so I could simultaneously get clinical experience and make money. Also, I would have studied for the MCAT for more than two months while having two jobs and doing research. I realized that the MCAT score can really open doors that a good GPA cannot. So study for the test... it will pay off. In addition, shadow a lot, travel to a place that will help you understand more about the world, and don't listen to other people when they say things are difficult. Some of these things I have employed in my life and I got two acceptances! Good luck! Just make sure you are passionate about this😍
 
I would pick an easy major (instead of math) to get a 4.0 GPA. Apply early and APPLY EARLY!!!
 
Pick an easy major, take my MCAT after sophomore year so the info is fresh, taken an MCAT prep course, not applied to certain schools (**cough**...Drexel...BU...) thus saving hundred of $, applied on the earliest day. But really, things still turned out okay.👍
 
studied like a bitch. gpa is the only thing that you can't change easily after you graduate.
 
i don't believe in fate, but everything has worked out eerily well for me. if i hadn't taken time off after college, i probably would have burned out in medical school and i certainly would not have enjoyed the financial success that i did as a result of selling my company. i probably would have ended up marrying my ex because i figured that was as happy as i could be. i wouldn't have met my new girlfriend who is... incredible. my application was a little late but i still got in to a great school that i'm very excited to attend.

my new year's resolution this year was "No Regrets." so far, it's working out pretty well. i really think things have a way of working out for the best.

That's good to hear. 😀 What did you do during your time off after college? 🙂 Is it harder to apply during the final year, or after college?
 
I wish that I had focused more on what's actually required for med school rather than what the average premed thinks is required. No, you don't have to take every bio, chem, biochem, math and phys class to get to med school. That way I would have spread out my prereq coursework more effectively without wondering if I was going to have them completed in time-- I would have been much more relaxed when it came to the academics.

What exactly do you mean by the line in bold? I'm trying to take the so-called pre-requisites for med school (gen. chem 1 and 2, organic chem, biochem, phys, etc...). Well...most of these subjects are part of my degree program anyway (BS in Public Health). But I'm planning to take the other required subjects after my degree program before getting into med school. Hmmm...I don't have to do that anymore? 🙂
 
That's good to hear. 😀 What did you do during your time off after college? 🙂 Is it harder to apply during the final year, or after college?

i ran a small business that i had started as an undergrad for 3 years after graduation. i did this mostly because i didn't get any job offers that interested me and i was a little lost re: what to do with my life. regarding applying, i definitely found that it took a significant amount of time, and i got my application stuff in a little later than i had planned (totally finalized at most schools by mid-october). i'd think it would be easier after college, but i can't say for certain since i didn't apply as an undergrad.

when i decided that i wanted to give medicine a shot, i was missing ALL my pre-reqs so i did a post-bacc at my undergrad institution. my grades were a little better, but not stellar since i was TRYING to keep running the business (i hired a manager to take my place, but he was constantly calling me, and you can't really ignore that type of thing), and a serious health problem came up.

anyway, i ended up selling the business, taking care of my health problems, finishing the program, doing well on the MCAT, meeting the girl of my dreams, and getting into a great school. i've been very, very lucky. i wish you the best of luck, too!
 
i ran a small business that i had started as an undergrad for 3 years after graduation. i did this mostly because i didn't get any job offers that interested me and i was a little lost re: what to do with my life. regarding applying, i definitely found that it took a significant amount of time, and i got my application stuff in a little later than i had planned (totally finalized at most schools by mid-october). i'd think it would be easier after college, but i can't say for certain since i didn't apply as an undergrad.

when i decided that i wanted to give medicine a shot, i was missing ALL my pre-reqs so i did a post-bacc at my undergrad institution. my grades were a little better, but not stellar since i was TRYING to keep running the business (i hired a manager to take my place, but he was constantly calling me, and you can't really ignore that type of thing), and a serious health problem came up.

anyway, i ended up selling the business, taking care of my health problems, finishing the program, doing well on the MCAT, meeting the girl of my dreams, and getting into a great school. i've been very, very lucky. i wish you the best of luck, too!

Thanks a lot! I'll remember that. I'm really happy for you! 👍 🙂
 
this is pretty sh*tty advice. what if the OP finds something about which he/she is passionate in the academic world? what if he/she enjoys an intellectual challenge? oh no, better not take any interesting upper level courses, it might hurt my med school app! once you do get to med school, you'll be glad you had some challenging courses to help hone your study skills, because there are many fewer "easy classes" and "easy profs" there.

once people learn to stop thinking like this (i.e. "med school admissions is a game lol") they break free from the trajectory of a zillion other average applicants and do interesting things that make them interesting applicants and well-rounded people.
look dude, it's a balance. yes, you should pursue your interests and all in college, but taking a really challenging class and getting a B or worse is not going to help your medical school application. Admissions committee people simply are not going to appreciate how much you might have learned, and how much you challenged yourself by taking that nuclear physics class or whatever.

All I am saying is that you should have the best grades you can get. And whatever free time you have, you should dedicate to something you really like, like research, volunteering, feeding the bumps, etc
 
look dude, it's a balance. yes, you should pursue your interests and all in college, but taking a really challenging class and getting a B or worse is not going to help your medical school application. Admissions committee people simply are not going to appreciate how much you might have learned, and how much you challenged yourself by taking that nuclear physics class or whatever.

All I am saying is that you should have the best grades you can get. And whatever free time you have, you should dedicate to something you really like, like research, volunteering, feeding the bumps, etc

i agree, i just thought your first post sounded more like "get straight A's at the cost of any intellectual rigor."

no hard feelings, eh?
 
Avoided leaving major classes like Molecular Biology in my last semester when I have no will to complete them.
 
Molecular Biology at UT is the most boring class ever. All you do is memorize transcription factors, protein subunits, various domains of ****, and all kinds of similar ridiculousness.

At least thats how it was with me. I had Herren.

Incidentally, I got an A.

As for what I would have done differently... I probably wouldn't have been a ****** for my first time through college, where I graduated with a 2.2. I am happy with my school, but it would have been nice to stay in TX, and I'm probably headed to Southwestern if I had done things right from the beginning.

It was a hell of a hole to dig myself out of. Then again, I had a ton of fun while I was screwing around in school, but I'm sure I would have found a way to do that while still taking care of business. I'm not sure I was ready to get serious until I actually did.
 
What would I have done differently...

1. Applied earlier. Really, I can't say this enough. My first interview (finally!) is next week, and I have only myself to blame for all the crazy nail-biting stress these last months.

2. Avoid the "easy" classes. Honestly, with more difficult classes in my schedule, the easy ones were ignored and my worst grades are in some of my easiest classes.

3. Not taken the "more impressive" Physics with Calculus. They won't know/care that you took the general physics. Unless you really enjoy calculus and physics, the headache is really not worth it.

4. Avoid my community college... maybe. I keep going back and forth on this one. Yes, it isn't as prestigious to take your general science classes at a community college. BUT mine was such a good school, my classes were small, my professors were amazing, and I feel I learned a lot more in some of my classes than I would have otherwise. -shrug-


That's it, I think! Good luck, and try not to be too stressed out about this whole process. 🙂
 
1. gotten earlier/more clinical exposure
2. applied earlier
3. done more research into the schools I applied to. . . beyond the MSAR/US News book and a cursory glance at their website. I should have gotten a feel for which schools have strengths in areas I'm interested in, which is admittedly a bit of work to do (and then taken secondaries and interviews more seriously/had better "why here" answers).
but I don't have a lot to complain about, it ended up fine. so,
4. not worried as much
 
Things I'm VERY happy with:

1. did well 1st year and continued to do better 2nd and 3rd year (did slack off a bit 4th year, but that barely hurt my over gpa) => competitive gpa overall

2. did research, best experience as an undergrad, awesome lab

3. apply 4th year to get a year off, I almost apply during my 3rd year, but decided that I wasn't ready, I'm extremely grateful that I did because I see now that I REALLY needed the break

4. apply & complete early - very happy with this because received 2 acceptances on 10/15 (1st day to know), lol now is just waitlist after waitlist hahaha

Things I SHOULD HAVE DONE:

1. Take the mcat when I'm READY

2. Don't be a wimp, and retake the mcat ... 2-3 more points could have made a HUGE difference

that's my 2 cents







PS: Oh yea, if you;re wondeirng about those HONOR PROGRAMS/CLASSES, pfffft! don't bother, it's a hell of a lot of work, and seriously didn't do any difference except hurting your gpa shamelessly if you can't get the A's

PPS: My god, those horrendous AP credits, listen, forget AP, and just take the damn class, I had to go back to JC to complete a few, NOT FUN
 
I would have not joined SDN so I would have been blissfully ignorant throughout this process. 🙂

As for what I would have done differently... I probably wouldn't have been a ****** for my first time through college, where I graduated with a 2.2. I am happy with my school, but it would have been nice to stay in TX, and I'm probably headed to Southwestern if I had done things right from the beginning.

It was a hell of a hole to dig myself out of. Then again, I had a ton of fun while I was screwing around in school, but I'm sure I would have found a way to do that while still taking care of business. I'm not sure I was ready to get serious until I actually did.

Actually - that sums it up pretty well for me too. (Except for UT-SW, not a TX resident 🙁 )
 
take the easiest classes/professors you can. You obviously want to learn the material for MCAT, but other than that, you want to get as many As as you can. For instance, don't take anything honors (because you want to "challenge" yourself and all that crap, like I did), nobody's going to care, there is just way too many applicants and way too little time. Better spend that extra time you'll have on something you are trully passionate about, like reasearch, volunteering, plaing sports, music, whatever. You want to take an easy class and get an easy A.

And apply as early as it is possible. That means planning ahead: your personal statement, your LORs, etc.

Med School admissions is a game, and you gotta be good at the game to do well

this is pretty sh*tty advice. what if the OP finds something about which he/she is passionate in the academic world? what if he/she enjoys an intellectual challenge? oh no, better not take any interesting upper level courses, it might hurt my med school app! once you do get to med school, you'll be glad you had some challenging courses to help hone your study skills, because there are many fewer "easy classes" and "easy profs" there.

once people learn to stop thinking like this (i.e. "med school admissions is a game lol") they break free from the trajectory of a zillion other average applicants and do interesting things that make them interesting applicants and well-rounded people.

I really hate to be mean here, but Doublecortin is right. I am really passionate about History and decided to minor in that when I started university. Bad move. I was at the top of my classes and I was getting B+ in each one. Because of that, my first year GPA was 3.3. I realized what a mistake I had made early in my second year and got a 3.76 GPA. Last semester I got a 4.0. This however only brings me up to a 3.6, due to my first year. I don't have any acceptances thus far in the season and I got only 3 interviews. This is not due to the rest of my application because it was good. Med school admissions is a game. You have to play by the rules, and bend them a little if you can. That means taking bird courses all the way. Its really sad that it has to be this way, but by personal experience, its better to be safe than sorry. Indeed, getting out of this mentality makes for much more interesting applicants who just get screened out before interviews. The best bet is to do the things that you love in extracurricular activities and do anything to excel in school. That is the real winning deal.
 
I wish I would have...
-applied earlier. This can't be stressed enough.
-taken a year or two off. I took two years "off" to pursue a master's degree in an unrelated field (music), but I think I needed a break from school period. This is useful for younger applicants who have a very hard time defending supposed "lack of life experiences" in interviews.
-found more clinical experience opportunities.
-assumed more leadership positions. I fielded questions about my leadership experience and philosophy in almost every interview.

I'm glad I...
-worked very hard in undergrad; GPA is important.
-formed close relationships with my professors, who wrote excellent recommendations.
-took the MCAT early in the year. It was hard to study while in school, but worth it.
 
I really hate to be mean here, but Doublecortin is right. I am really passionate about History and decided to minor in that when I started university. Bad move. I was at the top of my classes and I was getting B+ in each one. Because of that, my first year GPA was 3.3. I realized what a mistake I had made early in my second year and got a 3.76 GPA. Last semester I got a 4.0. This however only brings me up to a 3.6, due to my first year. I don't have any acceptances thus far in the season and I got only 3 interviews. This is not due to the rest of my application because it was good. Med school admissions is a game. You have to play by the rules, and bend them a little if you can. That means taking bird courses all the way. Its really sad that it has to be this way, but by personal experience, its better to be safe than sorry. Indeed, getting out of this mentality makes for much more interesting applicants who just get screened out before interviews. The best bet is to do the things that you love in extracurricular activities and do anything to excel in school. That is the real winning deal.

you can't blame your lack of acceptance on your 3.6. plenty of people get in with a 3.6.

i'm glad i wasn't a pre-med when i was in undergrad. i didn't play the game and i think i reaped the benefits. i did what i liked to do without having second thoughts about how i could improve my gpa, etc. you need to do well, but constantly worrying about being on top at every step in your life to me isn't worth it. i'd rather live my life and enjoy it. having a heart attack over a handful of Bs on a transcript is a bit excessive.

i'm not saying to forget everything we hear about shadowing/volunteering, ECs, doing well in classes, and killing the mcat, but rather encouraging people to do things that they like and take the time to enjoy undergrad. everyone is so concerned with being the "ideal" candidate. the problem is that there is no "ideal" candidate. find things that you like and do them. stop worrying if it will look good.
 
I would have:
-applied earlier (submitted amcas in september)
-done more research on schools before applying

I'm glad I:
-chose to go do an engineering major at the hardest university in the country
-stayed away from this site until I was interviewing (the people around here will stress you out!!!)
 
I would have:
-applied earlier (submitted amcas in september)
-done more research on schools before applying

I'm glad I:
-chose to go do an engineering major at the hardest university in the country
-stayed away from this site until I was interviewing (the people around here will stress you out!!!)


and modest, too! May I ask where you went to school?
 
I am glad that I:

- did well in UG and enjoyed my time there
- gave a lot back to my UG in terms of EC, community service....
- spent time in IB after graduation


I wish I would have:

- dumped the jerk I was with for most of UG - I could have done so much more and not wasted precious brain cells
- taken my first semester of the post-bac more seriously
- done better on the MCAT - figured out what I wasn't doing right somewhere along the two times I took it 😡
 
yeah ... most of these have been mentioned ... but here goes ...

1) take the extra time off before applying ... i took many years off b/c i'm a post-bacc non-trad ... even so, this year has been nuts ... once the application cycle kicks it takes over your life and year (granted, i'm a typical Cali resident so i applied to 25+ schools). If you have specific EC application goals (ie get you research published) MAKE SURE and have then accomplished before applying ... do NOT plan on adding to your resume during the application year.

2) RAWK the MCAT ... take it when you are fresh on the material. if need be, postpone your test date until you are ready, make sacrifices, take time off of work, do what must be done to get your score into the kill zone ... then take it once. kill it.

3) I regret not pushing harder to get my research published earlier ... the submission/revising process can drag on and it took more time/energy than i had anticipated. According to various adcom members i spoke to, "working on submitting a paper" is VERY different from "successfully published a first-authored manuscript in XYZ medical journal." In my case, the latter might have gotten me accepted at schools where i was waitlisted/rejected.

4) get a paid clinical job instead of volunteering ... the fact that many of my clinical experiences were un-paid/volunteer meant that i could manage scheduling/life without too much difficulty ... but, as i heard from adcom folks, everyone has volunteer experience (and the accompanying volunteer coordinator LOR) whereas only some folks have "real clinical work experience" ... working means you get paid and you have true responsibility (in the eyes of the adcom) ... while many volunteer gigs are legit and have tremendous amounts of clinical exposure and responsibility, some are very limited. unfortunately, adcom's often assume that all volunteer experience is the same ... limited.

5) apply at the stroke of midnight on June 1st ... this means getting transcripts in earlier, essays and LORs ready earlier ... EVERYTHING EARLIER. This would have helped my prospects and my budget - earlier applicants get first picks of interview slots and can bunch interviews into fewer trips ... in my case, i was verified in late July, which was early enough to get multiple interviews, but i wound up flying back and forth across the country at $500 a pop ... brutal. many of the applied-june-5th kids i knew managed to bundle 15 interviews into one or two actual trips, which saved them a ton of $.

6) trim down the EC list and get deeper on the few that really matter to you. i found it hard not to try and get involved in everything, mostly because i genuinely liked doing different things, but also because it seemed like every other applicant had 20+ cool EC's. In hindsight, being more picky about where i put my time could have helped my app.

also, SDN/MDapps makes it seem like every applicant has volunteered 10,000 hours in the ER, 10,000 hours at the homeless shelter, four different summer internships at the NIH, founded and directed a pre-med group, competed in triathalons, played piano since age 6, dean's list, etc, etc. This is extreme, but the common MDapps items are indeed common. while these EC's (ER volunteering, shadowing, community service, pre-med student group) are truly great experiences (imo), the adcoms see a stack of apps each year and tend to ignore the "usual stuff" and look for the unique and different.

best of luck ya'll!
 
Volunteered more, done more research, taken an MCAT prep course, applied earlier, and the big one... Gone to a competitive school with a stick up its butt instead of the school I loved. Well, I would probably have still gone to the school I loved, but man, I wish adcoms didn't care.
 
Looking back, I definitely would have applied myself more and received grades equal to my ability. Much like others on this tread, by the time I knew what I wanted to do and tried to turn things around, I was in a pretty big hole. When I talk to others just starting out I recommend doing your best to keep up your grades. I am sure the majority of it goes in one ear and out the other, just like it did for me, but hey, that is just my advice.

That being said, I would also recommend not dwelling on what has happened in the past. If you get a bad grade, make a poor decision that lands you in trouble, learn from it and move on. The world does not end with C and everyone makes mistakes growing up. It is extremely hard, but don't try and second guess yourself. No one knows how things may have turned out if they had done something differently. Even though something may appear to be a better choice in retrospect, you have no idea how changing your decision would impact you life in other ways. I haven't quite gotten to this point myself, the what-if games are just too fun, but I do try to apply the lessons learned have learned to future decisions so I try and avoid the same pitfalls.

Alright I will get off my soap box. Best of luck to the OP, you have a long road ahead of you. Realize there are things you need to learn in college outside of the books and try to experience as much as possible along the way.
 
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