Losing hope in everything

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RuKid23

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Hello everyone,

I came on this site to receive some good/real advice, whether it would be encouraging or not it does not matter. I just finished my junior year and so far college has been a disaster. I have failed 6 classes and my gpa is a 2.2. To put this in perspective, I have only completed 65 credits. yes 65. I have been depressed lately because of my grades. It is not that i am academically deficit, I just made poor decisions. I have always dreamed of being a physician, but as of right now. I probably wouldn't be accepted in any career based on my transcripts. Now as far as sciences, I have only taken bio and chem so far. I don't want to give up on myself i just want to know any scenarios or advice I could receive regarding possibly pursuing a DO degree because at the end of the day I want to be a physician. I plan on being in undergraduate for the next 4 semesters and plan on acing every single class i take from here on out. I am motivated and know that this is the first step of a long way to go that i Have. I just would like to know if it is possible that is all. If it is, I am UP FOR IT. no matter how long it takes.
 
The best thing you can do is really just ignore any naysayers and give it your all the next two years.

Reason being, if someone says "Yes, theres a shot" you'll (hopefully) pull it together. Even if medicine doesn't work out, you'll have MUCH better career opportunities and a life overall for yourself.

If people say "No chance, sorry" then there goes any motivation of you really caring to really strive hard and fix the rest of your academic record.

Hard work will always pay off (one way or another).
 
Thanks man, I'm going to do whatever it takes, i just hope that there is a chance
 
If you take 65 more credits earning all A's, that will put you at a 3.1 overall GPA. This would open the door for some osteopathic schools. Obviously you would still need to take the MCAT and I would shoot for AT LEAST a 28+. Try to get some shadowing and volunteering in, but ABSOLUTELY not at the expense of your grades. That should be your number 1 priority at this point. If you have to take a year or 2 or 3 to boost your ECs after you graduate, then so be it. Also, look in to grade replacement. For DO schools, if you retake a class, your new grade would replace your old grade. I would HIGHLY suggest you retake all those classes you failed. If you can hit B's or better, that would drastically improve your AACOMAS GPA (your GPA calculated with your replaced grades).

You have definitely dug yourself quite a whole, but you still have a shot at DO schools if you retake your failed classes and do well and NAIL all of your remaining classes. It won't be easy, but it's still possible.

Good luck!
 
If you take 65 more credits earning all A's, that will put you at a 3.1 overall GPA. This would open the door for some osteopathic schools. Obviously you would still need to take the MCAT and I would shoot for AT LEAST a 28+. Try to get some shadowing and volunteering in, but ABSOLUTELY not at the expense of your grades. That should be your number 1 priority at this point. If you have to take a year or 2 or 3 to boost your ECs after you graduate, then so be it. Also, look in to grade replacement. For DO schools, if you retake a class, your new grade would replace your old grade. I would HIGHLY suggest you retake all those classes you failed. If you can hit B's or better, that would drastically improve your AACOMAS GPA (your GPA calculated with your replaced grades).

You have definitely dug yourself quite a whole, but you still have a shot at DO schools if you retake your failed classes and do well and NAIL all of your remaining classes. It won't be easy, but it's still possible.

Good luck!


Thanks man, I will work towards following this method
 
Hello everyone,

I came on this site to receive some good/real advice, whether it would be encouraging or not it does not matter. I just finished my junior year and so far college has been a disaster. I have failed 6 classes and my gpa is a 2.2. To put this in perspective, I have only completed 65 credits. yes 65. I have been depressed lately because of my grades. It is not that i am academically deficit, I just made poor decisions. I have always dreamed of being a physician, but as of right now. I probably wouldn't be accepted in any career based on my transcripts. Now as far as sciences, I have only taken bio and chem so far. I don't want to give up on myself i just want to know any scenarios or advice I could receive regarding possibly pursuing a DO degree because at the end of the day I want to be a physician. I plan on being in undergraduate for the next 4 semesters and plan on acing every single class i take from here on out. I am motivated and know that this is the first step of a long way to go that i Have. I just would like to know if it is possible that is all. If it is, I am UP FOR IT. no matter how long it takes.

Retake all classes you failed, get A's in every future class you take and apply DO.
 
Why do you want to be a doctor?

Spend some time on that. It might not be the same reason as when you started this journey. Do you have a sincere desire to help people in physical distress? Keep working hard, hopefully med school works out and if it doesn't apply to PA school. If that doesn't work become a firefighter and EMT.

Do you just want a terminal degree to impress people? North Carolina has a part time DrPH and Central Michigan has a part time doctorate in healthcare management. Neither have terribly stringent entrance requirements.

What I'm getting at is, whatever you're trying to reach doesn't require an MD to get there. Work hard, get good grades, and if you get in great. But to be brutally honest, it's unlikely you're going to get in. The good news is if you've examined what's motivating you and widen your aperture a bit you'll find there are still a world of fulfilling opportunities. When I was in first grade I wanted to be a cat when I grew up. Turned out that wasn't a viable option, but I do nap a lot and my girlfriend scratches my belly. Don't create a false dichotomy where you're either an MD or a men's room attendant; you'll find your bliss. Good luck!
 
Hello everyone,

I came on this site to receive some good/real advice, whether it would be encouraging or not it does not matter. I just finished my junior year and so far college has been a disaster. I have failed 6 classes and my gpa is a 2.2. To put this in perspective, I have only completed 65 credits. yes 65. I have been depressed lately because of my grades. It is not that i am academically deficit, I just made poor decisions. I have always dreamed of being a physician, but as of right now. I probably wouldn't be accepted in any career based on my transcripts. Now as far as sciences, I have only taken bio and chem so far. I don't want to give up on myself i just want to know any scenarios or advice I could receive regarding possibly pursuing a DO degree because at the end of the day I want to be a physician. I plan on being in undergraduate for the next 4 semesters and plan on acing every single class i take from here on out. I am motivated and know that this is the first step of a long way to go that i Have. I just would like to know if it is possible that is all. If it is, I am UP FOR IT. no matter how long it takes.

I think that if you are passionate about becoming a physician and work really hard the next two years you still have a shot. Don't let this roadblock discourage you from a fulfilling career!
 
Trust me; I completely understand where you're coming from (and haha I've completed about the same number of credits too).

I really do believe that it is entirely possible for you to do it, but I also think that this is a good time for introspection--which really helped me too (I mean, I've been getting some professional help too but if I managed to raise a D to a C in a week in a class that fails 25%, then you can certainly do well!)

1.) Why are you having trouble with your classes? I know you mentioned that you made some poor decisions, but think about why you did them. As the people on this site recommended to me: you should come first. Do you need to talk to someone? What do you need that can help you.

2.) I know this sounds rough, but can you honestly expect to get a 4.0 for the next four semesters? I wish it was easier done than said, but the reality of the situation is that classes only get harder. I'm not saying that you shouldn't try--and please prove me wrong!--but I know that setting such high expectations can sometimes further your depressive symptoms and make everything worse.

3.) Are there resources on your campus to help you? My campus has Guided Study Sessions, for instance, that are free, sessions led by students who got an A in that course.

4.) Most importantly, what can you do to help yourself? I learned this from volunteering at a hotline, but self-care is SO important. Why be miserable doing something you love? Try doing stuff like exercising, writing out your feelings (cliche, but somewhat useful) and just having a support system.

I honestly know how it feels right now, but I know that's it's entirely possible for you to succeed and reach your dreams. My AP Calc teacher told me once that success occurs when hard work and opportunity intersect. Basically, just try your best and believe in yourself, and not only will you feel better, but you will also hopefully do better.
 
If you want to be a doctor, there is no reason this should stop you.

I believe Osteopathic school allow grade replacement, so if you went back and retook all your failed classes you're GPA would look a lot better and definitely give you a good chance. If you want it hard enough and you change you're flaws, I don't think this will prevent you from getting your dream.
 
Well you could spend like 4 more years in a postbacc to get MD competitive. You could get your GPA higher than 3.0, do well on the MCAT and get into an SMP. You could retake classes until you have around a 3.5 and apply DO.

Or you could just fail and not be a doctor.

If I had to guess it would be the last option. Prove me wrong.
 
score high on the mcat.

do an SMP, kick butt and prove you can overcome a courseload which way harder than those you have taken.

you can still reach your goals! dont give up. gl!
 
It is not that i am academically deficit, I just made poor decisions.

A big part of academic proficiency is the ability to make good decisions.

I guess I'm going to be the jerk in this thread and point out that if you have obtained 65 credits after three years of college, during which time you have failed six classes, there is no evidence that you are going to pull a U-turn and start performing. No, you need some more time in the oven. I would suggest dropping out and joining the Air Force or something for a few years. Time off may be your only reasonable hope of creating some distance between you and your sorry academic record while laying a foundation for improvement.

But I'm sure you'll ignore me, muddle forth and graduate after five years with a sub 3.0 GPA and few career options.
 
A big part of academic proficiency is the ability to make good decisions.

I guess I'm going to be the jerk in this thread and point out that if you have obtained 65 credits after three years of college, during which time you have failed six classes, there is no evidence that you are going to pull a U-turn and start performing. No, you need some more time in the oven. I would suggest dropping out and joining the Air Force or something for a few years. Time off may be your only reasonable hope of creating some distance between you and your sorry academic record while laying a foundation for improvement.

But I'm sure you'll ignore me, muddle forth and graduate after five years with a sub 3.0 GPA and few career options.

Ouch, and I thought I was being the harsh one
 
A big part of academic proficiency is the ability to make good decisions.

I guess I'm going to be the jerk in this thread and point out that if you have obtained 65 credits after three years of college, during which time you have failed six classes, there is no evidence that you are going to pull a U-turn and start performing. No, you need some more time in the oven. I would suggest dropping out and joining the Air Force or something for a few years. Time off may be your only reasonable hope of creating some distance between you and your sorry academic record while laying a foundation for improvement.

But I'm sure you'll ignore me, muddle forth and graduate after five years with a sub 3.0 GPA and few career options.

I was going to post something along these lines.

After failing six classes and earning a 2.2 GPA across 65 credits in 3 years, what are your chances of you making a drastic change? You might have the capability to earn straight As from here on out, but do you have the study skills and the discipline? Your record says no. I'd recommend taking some time off. Maybe not something as drastic as joining the military, but take a year off and work a job that you truly hate. It will motivate the hell out of you.
 
Hello everyone,

I came on this site to receive some good/real advice, whether it would be encouraging or not it does not matter. I just finished my junior year and so far college has been a disaster. I have failed 6 classes and my gpa is a 2.2. To put this in perspective, I have only completed 65 credits. yes 65. I have been depressed lately because of my grades. It is not that i am academically deficit, I just made poor decisions. I have always dreamed of being a physician, but as of right now. I probably wouldn't be accepted in any career based on my transcripts. Now as far as sciences, I have only taken bio and chem so far. I don't want to give up on myself i just want to know any scenarios or advice I could receive regarding possibly pursuing a DO degree because at the end of the day I want to be a physician. I plan on being in undergraduate for the next 4 semesters and plan on acing every single class i take from here on out. I am motivated and know that this is the first step of a long way to go that i Have. I just would like to know if it is possible that is all. If it is, I am UP FOR IT. no matter how long it takes.
Take a year off or more if you need to. There's no point in fighting quicksand. Come back when you feel ready to succeed.
 
A big part of academic proficiency is the ability to make good decisions.

I guess I'm going to be the jerk in this thread and point out that if you have obtained 65 credits after three years of college, during which time you have failed six classes, there is no evidence that you are going to pull a U-turn and start performing. No, you need some more time in the oven. I would suggest dropping out and joining the Air Force or something for a few years. Time off may be your only reasonable hope of creating some distance between you and your sorry academic record while laying a foundation for improvement.

But I'm sure you'll ignore me, muddle forth and graduate after five years with a sub 3.0 GPA and few career options.

Finally someone on SDN that is dealing with reality. 👍
 
Do not focus on taking new classes. Take one or two classes per semester that you previously failed and one or 2 gpa puffer classes. This is absolutely the way to do it, and if you do well, B or above in the classes you failed you will regain confidence in yourself and have the aacomas Gpa with grade replacement.

I don't understand though what kind of classes you failed? Where they all entry level science or what?
 
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