Low GPA, average DAT, MPH degree

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It's my understanding MPH programs don't really have BCP-like courses in them...which in your case would've been extremely helpful with the 2.7 sGPA...

I think you should've done an SMP.
 
I'm in a similar predicament (2.9 sGPA, 3.1 BCP). I'd contact the schools you're interested in and take it from there.
The schools i'm applying to specifically asked me to do a science-intensive masters with a lot of science courses and that's what i ended up pursuing. Contact the schools and figure out whether or not MPH would help.
 
Hi everyone, just trying to get some feedback on my stats as I've been worrying about them...

Finished undergrad with a 3.326 overall GPA, total science 2.7 (if not including my 2 retakes, it's a 3.0...I know dental schools count both, but still). DAT: 21 PAT / 18 QR / 22 RC / 20 BIO / 17 GC / 21 OC / 19 TS / AA 20.

Have ~1700 clinical hours, plus ~300 hours working in a dental office front desk.

In an MPH program now, GPA 3.9. With semester 1 of grad school, overall undergrad+grad GPA is 3.378, science is 2.75. Should be able to bring it up to ~3.45/2.8 by the time I apply.

Strong LORs and personal statement, it's just my undergrad GPA that I'm really worried about... I will definitely be applying this cycle, it's the last year my DAT is valid and I at least want to give it a shot before looking at other options. Any advice on schools to look at, how I can strengthen my app in these last few months?

Thanks!

I might have replied but a 2.7 is very low and so is a 2.8, you may not even get a supplemental from schools. They won't care until you bring that up. I would think a 2.9 would be a minimal target. Nova Southeastern will automatically reject you and so will a few other schools so make sure to look at their requirements and recommendations.
 
If you are doing a masters, it's should be science heavy or it won't do you any good.
 
It looks like people on here are sugarcoating your chances, so I'll be happy to give you a reality check.

You have shown nothing to suggest that you can handle a dental curriculum. An MPH degree with soft sciences will not offset your undergrad sGPA and will not offset a committee's perception of you, period. Degrees like an MPH or MBA are merely supplements to your profile as a candidate, not essentials, and they usually act to round out your abilities as a healthcare professional. The only MPH student I ever met that was accepted to their state school with a low sGPA and average DAT was a URM who was both LGBT and from another country, and they barely were admitted in June of that cycle. Epidemiology courses in the AADSAS catalogue are recently considered BCP courses (strangely enough), but I do feel committees still don't value them the same as real, upper level biomedicals.

Nevertheless, a 2.7-2.8 sGPA with a 19TS will unequivocally grant you zero interviews unless you have an extremely extenuating circumstance or situation that stands out - which by the sounds of it, hasn't occurred to you. Also, massive clinical or volunteer hours and strong LORs do not fix this - again, those are supplements beyond screening and most people have strong extracurriculars these days.

Unless you are a military veteran or URM, your profile is mediocre at best. The only way you will even get considered next cycle for an interview in-state is if you score a 23 or 24 DAT with a 23 TS, minimum. From there, you could impress. That would be enough for admissions to raise an eyebrow, and would *at most* open the door for an OOS school in the North or a state admissions committee.

Point blank: you need to take a 1 year post-bacc or 1 year Masters with hard, rigorous science classes with nearly all A's, minimum 35 credits. If you get a 4.0, you can probably keep your DAT. If you get a 3.5, you must re-take the DAT with 22's across. If you get less than a 3.5, you must re-take the DAT with 24's across.

There's your solution.
 
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It looks like people on here are sugarcoating your chances, so I'll be happy to give you a reality check.

You have shown nothing to suggest that you can handle a dental curriculum. An MPH degree with soft sciences will not offset your undergrad sGPA and will not offset a committee's perception of you, period. Degrees like an MPH or MBA are merely supplements to your profile as a candidate, not essentials, and they usually act to round out your abilities as a healthcare professional. The only MPH student I ever met that was accepted to their state school with a low sGPA and average DAT was a URM who was both LGBT and from another country, and they barely were admitted in June of that cycle. Epidemiology courses in the AADSAS catalogue are recently considered BCP courses (strangely enough), but I do feel committees still don't value them the same as real, upper level biomedicals.

Nevertheless, a 2.7-2.8 sGPA with a 19TS will unequivocally grant you zero interviews unless you have an extremely extenuating circumstance or situation that stands out - which by the sounds of it, hasn't occurred to you. Also, massive clinical or volunteer hours and strong LORs do not fix this - again, those are supplements beyond screening and most people have strong extracurriculars these days.

Unless you are a military veteran or URM, your profile is mediocre at best. The only way you will even get considered next cycle for an interview in-state is if you score a 23 or 24 DAT with a 23 TS, minimum. From there, you could impress. That would be enough for admissions to raise an eyebrow, and would *at most* open the door for an OOS school in the North or a state admissions committee.

Point blank: you need to take a 1 year post-bacc or 1 year Masters with hard, rigorous science classes with nearly all A's, minimum 35 credits. If you get a 4.0, you can probably keep your DAT. If you get a 3.5, you must re-take the DAT with 22's across. If you get less than a 3.5, you must re-take the DAT with 24's across.

There's your solution.

I agree with all of that. An MPH shows nothing about sciences, its about demography and socioeconomics and maybe a tiny bit of science if you stretch it. You really should change your graduate course schedule to include more science if possible i.e. immunology, virology, histology if you can !
 
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