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low gpa for residency 2017

Discussion in 'Podiatry Students' started by gnrh11, May 14, 2014.

  1. gnrh11

    gnrh11 2+ Year Member

    May 14, 2014
    I am more like a C+ B- student (class of 2017). I still have a lot of school ahead of me. How is the 2017 residency shortage looking? Any words of advice other than "get better grades"? I know I need to do that.
    Last edited: Jun 2, 2014
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  3. If your grades are not top notch do not apply to top notch externships. You would be setting yourself up for failure. Apply broadly at CASPR/CRIP.

    Best grades = best residency, bad grades = not as good of a residency. There are exceptions to this and I am sure someone will try to correct me... But from what I have seen this trend is true. The best students in my class went to the best residencies.
  4. newres64


    May 14, 2014
    There is still plenty of time for you to get your grades up. It's always good to show improvement through the years- shows you have the capacity (and the desire) to learn and improve yourself. That being said, I just want to touch on a pet peeve of mine- the "best residency". IMHO there is no such universally agreed upon "best residency"- they all have their strengths and weaknesses. The "best residency" is the one you want the most.
  5. TemplePodiatry

    TemplePodiatry 5+ Year Member

    Aug 16, 2012
    I would say that grades matter to a point. Yes the "top" residencies require you to be in the top 1/2, 1/3, a 3.0 GPA or sometimes a 3.2 GPA. Now sometimes that can be waiver if you rotated there. You are only a 1st year and you have plenty of time to raise your grades. Seeing how my class from temple matched this year, I can honestly say that grades are just one factor and really NOT the main factor in getting a residency. Every year great students scramble and students ranked very low match. Just work hard and improve throughout your time at your school and you can easily get your grades to a mid to high B. Just pass your boards first time and you should be fine.

    Good luck!
  6. Ankle Breaker

    Ankle Breaker Senior Member Podiatrist 7+ Year Member

    Sep 24, 2010
    I second what TemplePodiatry said. Both students with very high GPAs and low GPAs scrambled at Scholl. Luckily the majority of them found residencies. There were several students with very poor GPAs and poor work ethic that somehow matched as well. To their credit they applied, rotated, and matched at programs that are usually unknowns and not sought out programs. If you end up being a <2.5 gpa by the time rotations are starting then be sure to apply broadly to clerkships that historically are not cut throat but still look good on paper or have a decent reputation for training. There are a lot of hidden gems out there. I'd get in touch with older students and pick their brains. Preferably students you know who might not have the best grades and get their advice and experiences. This is crucial IMO. This way when you choose clerkships you will be picking programs you know you are competitive for, offer decent training, etc. If you have free time I would also visit possible programs you may be interested in clerking at before you make final choices. Some students may argue that the point of clerkships is to get to know the program but I've seen plenty of students clerk at programs they had no business clerking at (its not that hard to clerkship months a top programs) only to be denied an interview when CRIPs come. You are investing time, money and stress towards trying to match into the programs you are clerking at. Make sure you know they will count.
  7. Ankle breaker basically said what I was trying to relate in a much more elegant way. Just because you are not a top student does not mean you will not get a good program, but the better the grades the more likely you will match into good program. With that said... if you have high grades but are completely intolerable as a person you are up against a brick wall as well. "People" people with lower grades may match into a great program with low grades. It's a balance issue.

    But still when it comes down to it/looking at my graduating class. Top students got great programs. General trend and I stick to it.
  8. rushrhees

    rushrhees 2+ Year Member

    Jun 12, 2012
    Grades are only a part of the whole residency package, you have your externships, networking, and LORS as other aspects. Make sure all those others are good if the grades are lacking. At Temple I heard this 4th year matched into Penn presby which is supposed to be one of those platinum grade residencies and was not top 25. It can be done.
  9. Ankle Breaker

    Ankle Breaker Senior Member Podiatrist 7+ Year Member

    Sep 24, 2010
    Grades/rank get you through the door for clerkships. Your clerkships help you secure interviews. Interviews at CRIP make or break you.

    LORs, essays, etc don't do anything for you when applying to big programs. Research helps to extent but is used for tie breakers.

    The interview is where it's at. You mess up the interview it doesn't matter how good everything else was. You will not be getting the program.

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