Loyola vs Georgetown

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Originally posted by bafanculo
If you were faced with the decision between these two schools which one would you pick?
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I think you interviewed w/me at SLU on their first day of interviews? Thanks for telling me about this website. I've never been to these schools to compare them. But on rep and recognition alone I would choose G-town.
 
I would think that this is a very reasonable question. In terms of reputation, I think they are equal. People just don't want to admit that G-town is no longer a premier program. C'mon people name only matters when you are talking about elite programs that have established a NATIONAL repuation for medical education like Harvard, Hopkins, Penn...etc (we all know who these schools are). Thus when it comes to reputation I would say they are equal. In regards to location, G-town is more urban and Loyola more suburban. Both offer lots of diversity, and great opportunities but G-town definitely has an edge for being located in the capital of the U.S. In regards to atmosphere, Loyola is very supportive and the students are very collaborative. G-town does have its network of people but I just don't see it being as collegial as Loyola. Thus for atmosphere I would give the benefit to Loyola, since I like knowing my classmates and future colleagues outside of class. On financial terms, Loyola blows G-town out of the water. The hospital is securely funded and the school is brand new. The facilities are really amazing...the locker rooms in the gym is something to behold. All roads seem to point to Loyola , but since I have family in D.C. and personally love politics and would love to live in D.C. because of that rich history I would pick Georgetown. My belief is that you were right in not discounting Loyola. It is a great school and equal in my mind to G-town in regards to quality and reputation, in the end it all came down to alot of personal stuff.
 
Originally posted by cbpremed
Good luck Lola, I'll be there in a couple of weeks....lemme know how the weather is...😉
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thanks, cbpremed 🙂 i'm psyched about it now that i've received a big packet of info from them. i'm a sucker for nice brochures/booklets!
 
Hi. Through my interviews at Georgetown and then Loyola, I found Loyola to possess a much more friendly atmosphere than Georgetown. Everyone that I met at Loyola seemed to be genuinely nice, while at Georgetown the students there seemed to be indifferent to the group of applicants that I was with. However, Georgetown is in a very nice neighborhood and is in a better place relative to Washington D.C. than Loyola is to Chicago, but it is of course going to be more expensive because of that. Georgetown's financial situation is also troubling. My vote goes to Loyola.
 
Dude, Georgetown is one of the top schools in the COUNTRY. Your head must be far up your ass if you didn't know that.

Their medical school isn't one of the top med schools anymore, but they were consistently ranked up until a year ago by us news.

Considering that G-town is one of the premier undergrads in the united states, their reputation is not the same as Loyola's.

And no, I don't go to either school.🙄

Originally posted by weirdo700
I would think that this is a very reasonable question. In terms of reputation, I think they are equal. People just don't want to admit that G-town is no longer a premier program. C'mon people name only matters when you are talking about elite programs that have established a NATIONAL repuation for medical education like Harvard, Hopkins, Penn...etc (we all know who these schools are). Thus when it comes to reputation I would say they are equal. In regards to location, G-town is more urban and Loyola more suburban. Both offer lots of diversity, and great opportunities but G-town definitely has an edge for being located in the capital of the U.S. In regards to atmosphere, Loyola is very supportive and the students are very collaborative. G-town does have its network of people but I just don't see it being as collegial as Loyola. Thus for atmosphere I would give the benefit to Loyola, since I like knowing my classmates and future colleagues outside of class. On financial terms, Loyola blows G-town out of the water. The hospital is securely funded and the school is brand new. The facilities are really amazing...the locker rooms in the gym is something to behold. All roads seem to point to Loyola , but since I have family in D.C. and personally love politics and would love to live in D.C. because of that rich history I would pick Georgetown. My belief is that you were right in not discounting Loyola. It is a great school and equal in my mind to G-town in regards to quality and reputation, in the end it all came down to alot of personal stuff.
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All right does G-town have one of the best hospitals in the nation? Is G-town the place where the top biomedical researchers are (hmm I think most of them are at the truly elite programs with heavy research funding)? Does G-town have some of the most renoun faculty that will have other people impressed by evaluations? Will G-town's undergraduate reputation secure me a better residency than Loyola? ( Please why even bring that into play) The answer to most of those questions are obviously no and someone that resists the truth is romancing the past and clinging onto whatever shred of prestige they can get. Sure you bring up G-town's medschool rep, but they have not been in that ranking for the past couple of years (I know its definitely at least three), not one year. Georgetown's medical school reputation is not far greater than Loyola's to the point where it would hinder someone from Loyola. You may think I sound pompous and condescending, because I consider certain institutions as "elite," but I think most people will agree that there are certain institutions that have national recognition for medical education far and above other institutions. Its the people that cling onto the prestige of an undergraduate college that have me questioning whether a person is making evaluations on rep based on solid medically-related info or just a name.
 
Georgetown might have a slight edge in reputation, but the edge lessens as you head west. Since it's not a big difference, I wouldn't use it as a determining factor.


Of course, you can always count on some people to come out and call it a "top tier" or "one of the best" schools in the country. 🙄 Not that it's not a good school, but the way those people talk, you'd think they were talking about Harvard.
 
I think it is ridiculous that you even say G-town is near the caliber or even better than Duke or Stanford. Stanford is not known for clinical training, but it does have some of the best funding, best researchers, and it IS regarded as one of the premier medical programs. Ask 100 prospective med students and I bet at least 90% would take Duke or Stanford over G-town. Oh and the undergrad thing....Duke is pretty equal if not more respected for undergrad than G-town (Academic and basketball) and plus undergrad rep mostly helps if you went there (Everyone who sees your residency app will see your original undergrad). bw07 was right...what is up with all the G-town loyalists and their inability to admit G-town's "not the best, but certainly good" medical reputation.
 
Originally posted by weirdo700
Oh and the undergrad thing....Duke is pretty equal if not more respected for undergrad than G-town (Academic and basketball) and plus undergrad rep mostly helps if you went there
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Are you serious? I never even heard of Duke until they started winning b-ball games.

Duke's well-thought of in their region and they're definitely a great medical school with a national medical reputation, but their undergraduate school is thought of as a b-ball school. Sorry, but that's how they're regarded.
 
Originally posted by Tuesday Weld
but their undergraduate school is thought of as a b-ball school. Sorry, but that's how they're regarded.
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I don't know where you're from, but Duke is certainly not just thought a b-ball school around here. It's one of the top undergrad schools.
 
Originally posted by Polar girl
I don't know where you're from, but Duke is certainly not just thought a b-ball school around here. It's one of the top undergrad schools.
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I'm from the Northeast and before Krzyzewski won a couple of championships in the 1990's the only Duke that I knew about was Patty. :laugh:

Seriously, med students who are out there looking at US News and World Report knows that Duke is a highly ranked medical school, but other than that, Duke is not "known" for academics in areas outside of the Southeast.

(Well, now they're known for botching a major transplant. 😱 )

But the general public views them as a jock school.
 
Obviously you're northeast biased. Duke undergrad not prestigious? Hmm, tied for fourth this year vs. TWENTY-FOURTH for Georgetown? If the rankings are good for one thing, they're good for correlating to the public, national opinion since people eat this stuff up. (I'm from the midwest)
 
Originally posted by bw07
Georgetown might have a slight edge in reputation, but the edge lessens as you head west. Since it's not a big difference, I wouldn't use it as a determining factor.
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do you think? i'm concerned about getting a california residency and was thinking gtown was much better known than loyola in california. anyone else have any thoughts on this? i briefly looked at their matches, and it looks like gtown matches a lot of people in good cali residencies.
 
I wasn't commenting on the match lists. You're right that Georgetown's list appears to be better. I was only commenting on reputation for the sake of reputation.

Match lists are very much a product of this dean being buddy with this PD so that his letter carries more weight. Georgetown has a big edge here since they've built up those connections for a long time as a top school. Even with its slippage recently in hard number, those connections remain. Networking tends to stay around for a long time, so yes Georgetown beats Loyola in that sense.
 
Hey Lola et al.,

Is there a place to go where you can compare match lists from schools? I know some schools have thier individual lists posted online, but does AAMC or anyone have a resource? It seems like there should be a site that has match rates and placements for each school, since it is an important factor for deciding where to attend.
 
Put the pipe down, or what ever you guys are smoking I want some. G-town's rep is way better then Loyola, some people on the west coast never even heard of loyola. They start thinking "do you mean LMU or Loma Linda?"
 
I'm sorry, but I have to jump in here:

We are talking about 2 fundamentally different things here, people!

1. Reputation
2. Reality

I will be the first to admit that Georgetown has a better reputation... they are one of the oldest schools in America, they are known for their acadmics, and their name certainly demands recognition. That being said, reputation is only an illusion. The fact that a lot of people have heard of Georgetown does NOT make it a better school than Loyola. The only think we know for sure is that neither school is ranked in the top 50 by U.S. News and World Reports.

I know, firsthand, that if you end up going to a school simply because you think people will be impressed by the name, you will regret it!

Also, consider that those people who determine the match (ie: directors at the hospitals) are in the business, and they know the reality of the situation. They are not going to be swayed by a name, they will be influenced by your knowledge and your skills.

Stepping off the soap box
 
"Image is nothing obey your thurst."
 
Hahaha...this post is hilarious....some girl comes on with a simple question between two school and all hell breaks loose! Anyhow i went to Duke and i never thought we were considered a "jock school" as someone put it...damn, that's $140 G's down the drain...alright peace, i gotta go play my basketball and football now...
 
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