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loyola vs. rush
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Ya, me too. And I've revisited them both.
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how about check out rush's match 2001
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Not too quantitative, but I spoke to someone at one of my interviews who said that she worked at Rush, but that Loyola was her first choice. She seemed quite convinced that Loyola was the better of the two schools, and seemed to have quite a lot of first-hand experience in the matter.
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For Loyola and Rush, I don't think one school is outright better than the other. I think it's about finding the right fit for you. It's not like you're comparing Harvard to Ross University.
Both schools have their ups and downs, and provided you score well on USMLEs/AOA, you'll probably be well poised equally for residency at either school.
Both schools have their ups and downs, and provided you score well on USMLEs/AOA, you'll probably be well poised equally for residency at either school.
Hey guys,
I'm in the same boat, holding both, but I've decided on Rush for a couple reasons. First of all, it's slightly cheaper (if cost was really the issue, though, I'd have gone with UIC). Most importantly, though, I picked Rush because of its affiliations -- it has ties to two very big inner-city hospitals, so I figure the exposure I'd get there would be better, or at least more varied and extreme, than the more residential experience at Loyola. I have a relative who's chief of surgery at another Chicagoland hospital, and he basically said you're picking your hospital when you decide between the two. I think both are great schools, and I'm sure you'll be happy at either one. I would love it if Rush had a building as completely amazing as Loyola's, but such is not the case, and at some point you just have to pick based on what you think will make you happiest. Good luck in deciding, and if you pick Rush, I'll see you there!
I'm in the same boat, holding both, but I've decided on Rush for a couple reasons. First of all, it's slightly cheaper (if cost was really the issue, though, I'd have gone with UIC). Most importantly, though, I picked Rush because of its affiliations -- it has ties to two very big inner-city hospitals, so I figure the exposure I'd get there would be better, or at least more varied and extreme, than the more residential experience at Loyola. I have a relative who's chief of surgery at another Chicagoland hospital, and he basically said you're picking your hospital when you decide between the two. I think both are great schools, and I'm sure you'll be happy at either one. I would love it if Rush had a building as completely amazing as Loyola's, but such is not the case, and at some point you just have to pick based on what you think will make you happiest. Good luck in deciding, and if you pick Rush, I'll see you there!
I would definitely choose loyola. I've beena accepted to both (and UIC) and Loyola is my second choice right now since I prefer to go out of state to cin/pitt. Within this current debate I would definitely choose loyola, after working in 3 hospitals, talking to endless advisors, and physicians, looking at matches, "rankings", atmosphere, etc. I would definitely choose Loyola. Just my input.
Badger,
Unfortunately from what I've found your hospital argument doesn't apply. Loyola students train mainly at Loyola, Hines VA, and County. Rush trains mainly at County and Rush (and the various other Rush affiliates all around). Either way, you won' t have a lack of experience, variety, and diversity at either school.
Your financial argument doesn't hold either. I have both's school's financial aid award and budget breakdown for next year (I got Rush's a bit early because I was visiting the school). Tuition for Rush is 32268. Tuition for Loyola is 32800.
I'm finding that the big difference for me is learning style at both schools and where I am going to live and what type of life I will be having outside of school (which may not be a priority because who knows how much time I'll have). At Rush I would most likely be living with my sister in Lakeview (a good thing) but at Loyola I'd be living in Oak Park. Thing is I can always stay over by her (or my parents for that matter) for a weekend if I have time. There's more to this living situation but I'll leave it at that.'
So far I'm still leaning to Loyola. I'm waiting for a friend of mine's opinion (and those he is interviewing for me) who is a lead chicagoland cardiologist. Basically what I'm hearing from most is that I can't go wrong with either...just trying to decide is hard.
Unfortunately from what I've found your hospital argument doesn't apply. Loyola students train mainly at Loyola, Hines VA, and County. Rush trains mainly at County and Rush (and the various other Rush affiliates all around). Either way, you won' t have a lack of experience, variety, and diversity at either school.
Your financial argument doesn't hold either. I have both's school's financial aid award and budget breakdown for next year (I got Rush's a bit early because I was visiting the school). Tuition for Rush is 32268. Tuition for Loyola is 32800.
I'm finding that the big difference for me is learning style at both schools and where I am going to live and what type of life I will be having outside of school (which may not be a priority because who knows how much time I'll have). At Rush I would most likely be living with my sister in Lakeview (a good thing) but at Loyola I'd be living in Oak Park. Thing is I can always stay over by her (or my parents for that matter) for a weekend if I have time. There's more to this living situation but I'll leave it at that.'
So far I'm still leaning to Loyola. I'm waiting for a friend of mine's opinion (and those he is interviewing for me) who is a lead chicagoland cardiologist. Basically what I'm hearing from most is that I can't go wrong with either...just trying to decide is hard.
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kinda off topic, but does rush have a 2nd look weekend?
I am in the same boat as all of the rest of you. I have been accepted to Rush, Loyola, and UIC. As of today, I am leaning more towards Loyola. However, I have thought much more about UIC after receiving my financial award package from Loyola. All in all though I feel that Loyola is the better fit for me.
Number one it has the minimum class time out of all three institutions, with what seems to be very good instruction at that compared to the other med schools. The majority of the class attends each lecture, which should say something about the level of instruction. In addition, it seems all the notes and overheads are given out over the internet. I have also really not heard anything bad said about Loyola. Moreover, the facilities are not even comparable at Loyola to other med schools. The price is very expensive, but very comparable to many other private schools. The administration also seems very responsive and helpful to many of the students. Also, in between the first and second year you have the opportunity to serve in a third world nation for two to three weeks.
As for the clinical training, I was not sure about it in the beginning. However, I have been hearing more and more good things about it. Hines VA is one of the largest (and maybe the largest) VA hospital in the nation. Loyola hospital is also nothing to look down upon. As one of their students told me, it has 523 beds, which is actually more than cook county (the new one) with only 464. Just to mention a few other aspects; it also includes a level one trauma center, a burn center, a surgical pavillon, a neonate ICU (50 beds), a Ped ICU (18 beds), and one of only four cranial base surgery centers in the nation. Loyola also has a number of clinics and affiliated outpatient services all around the chicago area. As mentioned in a previous post you can also do rotations at county to get a more diverse patient population.
I have asked a lot of people where I should go, and I get the same reply as many of you (you will not go wrong with either). However, I am pretty confident about the education given at Loyola and I thought I would just give my two cents about it.
Number one it has the minimum class time out of all three institutions, with what seems to be very good instruction at that compared to the other med schools. The majority of the class attends each lecture, which should say something about the level of instruction. In addition, it seems all the notes and overheads are given out over the internet. I have also really not heard anything bad said about Loyola. Moreover, the facilities are not even comparable at Loyola to other med schools. The price is very expensive, but very comparable to many other private schools. The administration also seems very responsive and helpful to many of the students. Also, in between the first and second year you have the opportunity to serve in a third world nation for two to three weeks.
As for the clinical training, I was not sure about it in the beginning. However, I have been hearing more and more good things about it. Hines VA is one of the largest (and maybe the largest) VA hospital in the nation. Loyola hospital is also nothing to look down upon. As one of their students told me, it has 523 beds, which is actually more than cook county (the new one) with only 464. Just to mention a few other aspects; it also includes a level one trauma center, a burn center, a surgical pavillon, a neonate ICU (50 beds), a Ped ICU (18 beds), and one of only four cranial base surgery centers in the nation. Loyola also has a number of clinics and affiliated outpatient services all around the chicago area. As mentioned in a previous post you can also do rotations at county to get a more diverse patient population.
I have asked a lot of people where I should go, and I get the same reply as many of you (you will not go wrong with either). However, I am pretty confident about the education given at Loyola and I thought I would just give my two cents about it.
PluckyDuk8 & aarn20,
You both bring up some very useful information about Loyola. I was operating from some different tuition budgets (I've had some annoying complication with my FAFSA, so haven't getten all that stuff yet), so I wasn't aware they were so close. I'm not trying to insinuate anything bad about the clinical experience at Loyola, and I'm aware you can take rotations elsewhere. For a while I was pretty sure I wanted to go to Loyola, particularly because of its amazing facilities and affiliations. I guess what I meant was that I'm leaning more towards the city location of Rush than the suburban location of Loyola. Like you guys, I've really had a hard time trying to decide which school would be best for me -- there are several things about both schools that I don't like, but I simply have to choose. From speaking to doctors in the area and other people in the healthcare arena (doctors that used to be on adcoms and faculty at several different med schools), I've simply decided that Rush fits what I want out a school better. Please feel free to PM me if you'd like to know more about what went into my decision, and good luck with yours.
You both bring up some very useful information about Loyola. I was operating from some different tuition budgets (I've had some annoying complication with my FAFSA, so haven't getten all that stuff yet), so I wasn't aware they were so close. I'm not trying to insinuate anything bad about the clinical experience at Loyola, and I'm aware you can take rotations elsewhere. For a while I was pretty sure I wanted to go to Loyola, particularly because of its amazing facilities and affiliations. I guess what I meant was that I'm leaning more towards the city location of Rush than the suburban location of Loyola. Like you guys, I've really had a hard time trying to decide which school would be best for me -- there are several things about both schools that I don't like, but I simply have to choose. From speaking to doctors in the area and other people in the healthcare arena (doctors that used to be on adcoms and faculty at several different med schools), I've simply decided that Rush fits what I want out a school better. Please feel free to PM me if you'd like to know more about what went into my decision, and good luck with yours.
I'm posting a link to a thread that came up with a lot of these issues,
http://www.studentdoctor.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59245&highlight=Illinois+styles
Badgergirl, you posted on it so I suppose you already read it all. For those that didn't, check out my post after I visited Loyola for a second day and unregistered post about Loyola.
I don't know why, but I just didn't get that feeling after visiting Rush as I did Loyola. I think something just clicked each time I was at Loyola, like "I can see myself here." I think after all the advice I can get and thinking the pros and cons of both I think that ultimately I'm just going to have to go with my gut.
http://www.studentdoctor.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59245&highlight=Illinois+styles
Badgergirl, you posted on it so I suppose you already read it all. For those that didn't, check out my post after I visited Loyola for a second day and unregistered post about Loyola.
I don't know why, but I just didn't get that feeling after visiting Rush as I did Loyola. I think something just clicked each time I was at Loyola, like "I can see myself here." I think after all the advice I can get and thinking the pros and cons of both I think that ultimately I'm just going to have to go with my gut.
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