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I am starting a PsyD program in the fall and will buy a new laptop. Is there any reason to buy PC over Mac? I'd like to buy a Mac, but not sure if there is some software I might need as a Psychologist that only works on PC.

Thanks in advance for any advise on this!
 
I am starting a PsyD program in the fall and will buy a new laptop. Is there any reason to buy PC over Mac? I'd like to buy a Mac, but not sure if there is some software I might need as a Psychologist that only works on PC.

Thanks in advance for any advise on this!

If there's some rarely-used software, you can install windows on a mac now anyhow. I'm not sure there is a mac version of SAS....

Unless you're a total computer geek like me, I don't think there's any reason not to get a Mac for a work computer. I need to be able to gut my computer and replace parts myself, tweak the OS settings, and various other things that Mac makes it more difficult to do. Plus, I do some programming, which Macs are definitely not geared towards.

If none of that is important to you, I say go for the Mac if its what you want. They ARE pricey though.
 
If there's some rarely-used software, you can install windows on a mac now anyhow. I'm not sure there is a mac version of SAS....

Unless you're a total computer geek like me, I don't think there's any reason not to get a Mac for a work computer. I need to be able to gut my computer and replace parts myself, tweak the OS settings, and various other things that Mac makes it more difficult to do. Plus, I do some programming, which Macs are definitely not geared towards.

If none of that is important to you, I say go for the Mac if its what you want. They ARE pricey though.

I have both, and like the Mac a lot (it is a hackint0sh though)
 
You might also want to find out what type of computers your future lab uses. It might be easier if you go with what's being used there.
 
I've been a PC guy since buying my first computer a decade ago, but I've become sold on macs now. My next purchase will be a mac laptop. A big part of my decision is my total and complete loathing of Vista and anticipation of loathing for the next MS OS.
 
me too. i was pc guy since i was a little nerd writing basic code. windows was the thing when it hit the market. but i love my mac now. i think that the mac OS is far superior to vista. considering the two options, ill trade tweakability for the ease of use, plug and play capability i get with the mac. however you're paying double for the mac.

and... i admit that last week i was running stats on my circa 1994 windows-running notebook, pasting the numbers into excel and emailing the file to myself so i could manipulate them into figures/tables. but as someone mentioned, if you want to run windows on the mac you can do that. which is probably what ill do if i need to frequently use windows programs in the future. ive heard that there are some programs that wont run perfectly in this environment. they could conceivably be stats programs or specialized testing software that you might use as a psychologist, such as a computerized CPT-II. in my experience, the testing software will be run on institutional computers.
 
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I hate Apple, period. Won't even get an iPod. 😉
 
Edit: Yeah, I don't want to get into a Mac vs. PC debate--I'm just going to say that I don't like using Macs. I think it's all about personal preference. If you really want a Mac, go for it; I just wouldn't buy one for myself.
 
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For what it's worth, most of the computer nerds I know (as in, people who work in computer science) prefer Macs to PCs these days, now that Macs run off of a UNIX based platform. (Pre-OS X was a whole other story granted.) The system is simply more elegant and better designed than Windows. Whether that's worth the extra money for someone is a whole other issue, or whether they have software needs the platform doesn't meet, but pretty much no one I know who knows much about computers actually thinks much of Windows itself. They almost all would say LINUX beats either actually, but that's not particularly practical for most people.

I have a Mac laptop (a Macbook), and it's been incredibly reliable, and it was fine for the work I did my old clinical psych lab and at my current job. If your lab uses SPSS, you can get it for Mac, and files transfer across platforms fine. I've also used Parallels (the whole Windows within a Mac thing), and it works fine too, although it's a little slower, so if you are planning on primarily using Windows, I would probably just get a PC, but if you just want it for the occasional thing, then it's great.

Another good thing about Macs is that the customer service is great. I've heard horror stories about Dell and some of the other PC brands in comparison, although it's possible that I just don't hear the good stories as much.

I would talk to your program and lab and see if they have any strong preferences, and if not, then get whatever system you like the best. Being comfortable with your computer and able to work with it well is the most important thing.
 
My dad, who works in electronics, says you have to know which brand of PC to buy. He doesn't like Dell, for instance. I have a Sony VAIO (got it on sale so it was much cheaper than usual) and looove it.
 
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if you're looking for value and convenience then check out the eee pc netbooks. they're super reliable and do everything you need for a fraction of the price. amazing ratings across the board.
 
I agree with not getting a Dell. Although they can be inexpensive, I've had bad luck with the last two I purchased (and have since then switched to a Macbook, which I love). My own experience obviously doesn't mean much, but just thought I'd add to cara's comment 🙂
 
Haha, my friend used to love their ad slogan: "It's not quality, it's Dell!"

I actually bought a netbook for grad school since they're super easy to cart around. I think they're good for internet browsing, research stuff, and probably taking notes/writing papers, but not much else. 😉
 
I have a Dell now and it's become terribly slow over the past 2 years. I like the Macs but they are nearly twice the cost of like PC laptops. I like the Toshiba satellite line but it seems to run a bit warm and I think that might irritate me.

I am strongly considering buying a ASUS. The online reviews appear to be consistently positive.
 
Mac's are like ******ed PC's running Linux... e.g. they are slower at nearly everything. Now, I think that the current Mac OS is nice, BUT the ******ed mouse with one button and no tapping on the mouse pad to click has to go! IBM got it right with the little eraser head pointer... (which most people hate, but then again, I like trackballs.)

Price, on a mac, you pay too much.

Linux is sweet but the app support is weak when compared to Windows. However the OS makes windows look like a bloated pig.

I've used all 3, Windows can be stable under the right configuration, the key is to have that configuration... Linux, well, I had a Linux machine in desert storeroom with no A/C running for over 2 years without a reboot, and many more with uptimes exceeding a year as active servers. I cannot do that with Windows, still, I "need" Word/Office 2007, acrobat, SPSS, and other Windows based software.

Unfortunately, the desktop environment is owned by the PC. I do like the Mac's, I don't like the price/performance. I love Linux, I don't like the compatibility issues. So I have a Windows PC for school work.

Mark
 
I made the switch from PCs to Mac (both a desktop and a laptop) in December 08 after about 15 years of PCs and now that I know the machines well, I'm actually embarrassed it took me this long to open my mind and try something new. In 6 months, I have not had one technical problem, one blue screen of death, nothing. There is just no comparison with ease of use and reliability. Macs blow PCs away.

That said, I did have one problem when registering for classes: I can't take Statistics II online because the software is not compatible with a Mac. I've run into other minor compatibility issues, but this is the first one that has prevented me from doing what I really wanted to do.

It's not a big deal and I'll just take the class face-to-face, but in another time, it might have been a problem.

My advice: assess your individual needs (especially if they involve math software) before you buy. (But if you can, buy a Mac!!)
 
I am starting a PsyD program in the fall and will buy a new laptop. Is there any reason to buy PC over Mac?

If you have the money, get a Mac with "parallel desktops" and a copy of windows XP, meaning you can get the compatibility benefits of a PC with the ease and security of a Mac.

That's only if you have the money. PCs are far cheaper and there are no issues with compatibility (like with SAS or other statistical programs)

Good luck
 
have one problem when registering for classes: I can't take Statistics II online because the software is not compatible with a Mac. I've run into other minor compatibility issues, but this is the first one that has prevented me from doing what I really wanted to do.

If your Mac was made in the last couple of years, your solution is parell desktop as described in my last post. There are no more compatibility issues with Macs anymore now that they can run windows.
 
You've lost me there. Parallel desktop? Please illuminate...I'm intrigued.

I'm running MS Office for Mac currently.

The professor explicitly stated that students must be on a PC or the software would not function. Would your solution apply?
 
Yes, Parallels allows a Mac user to run the Windows OS within their Mac OS, so you could have run the necessary apps. Bootcamp is another option, but Parallels functions like another app you switch into, whereas with Bootcamp, you either are in Windows mode or not. Bootcamp is a little faster/smoother, so it's beneficial for people who will be running Windows a lot/using it as a primary OS, but if you are just trying to use Windows for one thing, Parallels is the way to go. You will need an intel-based Mac (if it's a laptop, any of the Macbooks/Macbook Pros will work; earlier ones will not), and you will want to be sure you have plenty of RAM if you use it, and it takes about 10gb of space on your hd if I recall correctly.

If this still sounds like a foreign language to you, but you're interested, I'd recommend seeing if you can find a local Mac geek friend to help you set it up.
 
You've lost me there. Parallel desktop? Please illuminate...I'm intrigued.

I'm running MS Office for Mac currently.

The professor explicitly stated that students must be on a PC or the software would not function. Would your solution apply?

These other two posts above are wayy technical...suffice to say that if you are confused about what I was suggesting, just visit the link I posted. There's a video that shows you what I was talking about

With Parallel Desktop you can run windows on a Mac. So for all intents and purposes, you will own a PC in addition to your Mac. You can switch back between the Mac and PC desktops...hence the name Parallel Desktop

And no, you don't need a top of the line Mac to run this. If you're just running stats software and not playing cutting edge computer games, Parallel Desktop will work fine for you. I have a 3 year old Mac at home that runs SAS and Stata just fine in PC mode.

If you are still confused, visit your local Mac dealer or university computer store. I'm sure they can show you a demonstration

Good luck
 
Yeah, I guess my question is if you're going to run in PC mode all of the time, why not just get a PC?
 
Yeah, I guess my question is if you're going to run in PC mode all of the time, why not just get a PC?

You wouldn't have to be in PC mode all the time, only those rare instances when you need those special stats programs. As PitterPatter said, it was only one class she was worried about. The other 99% of the time you'd be in normal Mac mode.

A lot of people like the ease of Macs, myself included. The iPhoto, iTunes, and the rest of the 'i' series are wonderul to use. My Mac never crashes, meanwhile when I got my new PC I had to spend a lot of energy reverting back to XP because the preinstalled 64 bit Vista is so buggy and has zero support. And you'd think it enjoys crashing by how frequently it does it

Meanwhile I don't ever have to download drivers or worry about viruses on my Mac. It's an incredibly secure system and I love it

Stats can, arguably, be as intensive as games.

This is a psychology student forum. Most stat execution in this field (t-tests, etc) takes seconds, or minutes at the most.

So, back to reality: any psychology student would be fine with a Mac running windows, if you prefer the ease of a Mac but dislike the difficult nature of a PC.

Either way, good luck to the OP in his/her decision!
 
I can't stand iTunes, actually. I like mp3 player software that just lets you drag and drop files--it's so much easier.
 
But, if you want to play *insert new cool game here*, you may have to download drivers. Apple solves that problem by simply not being able to play *insert new cool game here* at all.

Even though I own a Mac, I actually laughed out loud at this one.

As for the debate, I really think it's just personal preference. Two of the graduate students own Macs in the lab I currently work at, and they love them.
 
for all those mac users out there, what kind of office suite do you use? do you have MS Office for Mac or iWork? I'll be a first year in the fall and need to know which to buy (iWork is about $40 cheaper, so it's a consideration).
 
Most of the problems, in my opinion, on Vista are user error.

I think this is the key part of the puzzle here. It seems like when something goes wrong it is alot easier to drop the blame on the software itself. I don't know how many times I have been called on by friends or co-workers because "My computer just stopped working" To find out the problem was caused by them visiting malware infested websites, or downloading files from any website without virus scanning them first. Though I've heard that Macs don't have this problem simply because the user base is much smaller and it's more efficient for hackers to target the large PC owner population.

That being said in terms of performance you will get a much bigger bang for your buck buying a cheaper windows PC. There were some tests run at Tom's Hardware Guide a few months ago using the MAC OS emulation chip that was made in Europe or China (and I think has subsequently been banned) that put both a PC and MAC of similar system spec up against each other in a performance test and if I can remember correctly the PC absolutley blew the MAC out of the water in terms of performance using the MAC's own OS.

PC's seem to dominate the market in terms of price/performance ratio and program compatibility, which leads me to wonder if the only thing that the MAC has over the PC is good marketing and a sleek design? Though not totally discrediting them I hear that MACs are superior for video editing and music production, but that doesn't seem like it will be very applicable to a psych doctoral student.

All in all though it comes down to personal preference, the above is just a recounting of personal experience and advice giving, but if you absolutley love MAC's and have the money to spare I don't see a reason to not get one.
 
for all those mac users out there, what kind of office suite do you use? do you have MS Office for Mac or iWork? I'll be a first year in the fall and need to know which to buy (iWork is about $40 cheaper, so it's a consideration).

consider getting Office through your school. Most have it really cheap ($70-80). There are even websites that will sell them at that price if you are a student.
 
PhillyPsych: My dad, who fixes electronics, has a saying: "Computers don't make mistakes, people do." 😉
 
I worked as a computer tech for a long time before getting into psychology and I've seen the evolution of windows all the way up from 3.1. At this stage in the game I agree with the people who say it's largely a matter of preference. The differences are no longer so great as the die hard fans (and the often deceptive I'm a Mac, I'm a PC commercials) would have you believe.

I personally use PCs because I'm more familiar with them and they are cheaper and more compatible with most software. But obviously a lot of people find Macs to be easier to use.
 
If you're doing neuroimaging work and want to use FSL (FMRIB's Software Library), it's much more cumbersome to do so on a Windows machine--you'll need to dual-boot Linux or use a cloud server. In contrast, UNIX-based machines (Macs, Suns, and Linux PCs) run FSL much more seamlessly.
 
PhillyPsych: My dad, who fixes electronics, has a saying: "Computers don't make mistakes, people do." 😉

Hah! I like your dad! Computers definatley only do what a human tells them to, and sometimes that human is wrong. =)
 
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