MarWWel -- GAME THREAD

[kdswg]

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Yes, and you're going to be pretty disappointed when I flip

But you should be proud, you’ve gotten so good at getting people to read you not-villlage

 

[potentialsheltervet]

i'm really confused as to why you think i need to vote for a runaway train. like really.

I don't. I was sincerely asking why you were voting for cubs instead because by your own admission you think fluff is wolfy. You can vote for whomever you choose but doubling down when someone asks a genuine question is making me way more suspicious of you than I was when I posted that.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I'm wolf reading anyone who doesn't haha this post because this is legitimately one of the best things I have ever seen.

I will never forget

Nominate it for best quote!

 

[SportPonies]

I just spent the last two pages wondering why I hadn't seen much of TME today.

....oof.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I don't. I was sincerely asking why you were voting for cubs instead because by your own admission you think fluff is wolfy. You can vote for whomever you choose but doubling down when someone asks a genuine question is making me way more suspicious of you than I was when I posted that.

Honestly if fluff flips village ill be looking at the off voters for sure (ironic since I myself am not on the vote, but I also know Im village), I dont know that theyd vote en masse in that situation.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I just spent the last two pages wondering why I hadn't seen much of TME today.

....oof.

Sporty plz

 

[WildZoo]

Spoiler: Off topic but on topic

I'm watching Black Widow!

 

[SportPonies]

In the mechanical sense, yes.

I think this is still my favorite deadpan AM quote of the game.

 

[SportPonies]

She's still in neutral for me. Pulled on my sad little heartstrings when she thanked me for defending her. Idk how to feel about it.

god i hope you're village because you have a very comfy pocket

For the record neither Dana nor Fluff feel wolfy to me, they're in my leans village camp for the time being.

Well, it'll certainly be interesting for me to see how we went from this to all-in on fluff.

I feel like TME would surprise me if they were a wolf. Largely because a reads list that puts Zenge and Dubz as the top of the sketch pile feels like a lot to bite off for D1. Sketch reading two strong, vocal players feels like a way to get yourself in hot water fast when you don't need to

idk... if I like this post. Both because I think TME is a gutsy enough player to do it and also because I... don't think that it's AI for many players at all. Particularly for a non-noob.

 

[SARdoghandler]

Ok I think I may have finally managed to catch up between calls and having to login in like 862 times

Did Fluff finally role reveal somewhere and I missed it in my spotty catch up or is it still just a big old ?

 

[samac]

Ok I think I may have finally managed to catch up between calls and having to login in like 862 times

Did Fluff finally role reveal somewhere and I missed it in my spotty catch up or is it still just a big old ?

Nope. She never did.
She apparently has a PR tho

 

[justafluff]

Taking a break from my homework a bit. I guess everyone's still convinced I'm a wolf?
As much as I hate to admit it, samac, AM, Bob, genny, Dana you're right. I'm not gaining anything by waiting. Although I'd rather die than stay and keep defending myself day after day but I'm giving you all a chance to see me differently.
I'm Black Widow and a tracker.

 

[samac]

Taking a break from my homework a bit. I guess everyone's still convinced I'm a wolf?
As much as I hate to admit it, samac, AM, Bob, genny, Dana you're right. I'm not gaining anything by waiting. Although I'd rather die than stay and keep defending myself day after day but I'm giving you all a chance to see me differently.
I'm Black Widow and a tracker.

Huh.

 

[samac]

I don’t believe it.

 

[Zenge142]

Huh.

Huh, what? What are your thoughts? You’re the conductor of this train.

 

[justafluff]

I don’t believe it.

well that doesnt surprise me.

 

[Zenge142]

 

[Zenge142]

Huh.

I don’t believe it.

You did this just so you could set me up to be Ninja’d, didn’t you?

 

[samac]

Huh, what? What are your thoughts? You’re the conductor of this train.

I just don’t believe it. There is no way that they held that they’re a main character and a tracker this long and be village. Maybe wolves are given cover roles.

 

[samac]

You did this just so you could set me up to be Ninja’d, didn’t you?

Maybe lol

 

[WildZoo]

Me: Alright who was your n1 target
Also me: Oh wait

 

[justafluff]

I just don’t believe it. There is no way that they held that they’re a main character and a tracker this long and be village. Maybe wolves are given cover roles.

This long? its only D2!

 

[Zenge142]

Me: Alright who was your n1 target
Also me: Oh wait

That’s still a legitimate question, Fluff just wouldn’t have any results.

Who was your target Fluff?

 

[justafluff]

That’s still a legitimate question, Fluff just wouldn’t have any results.

Who was your target Fluff?

Samac.

 

[samac]

Samac.

Lol
I really don’t believe that.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Samac.

What made you choose her?

 

[The_Breadmann]

I want to finish catching up to participate but I cannot at the moment. Gotta try and figure some stupid family bs out (no ww family tree stuff, they are all too wonderful).

 

[justafluff]

What made you choose her?

She has been uber-focused on me ever since I commented on the Lupin 5 rule. My whole experience this game has been to try and defend myself from her tunneling.

 

[SportPonies]

They're not w/w?

How are you feeling about them now?

 

[Animal Midwife]

She has been uber-focused on me ever since I commented on the Lupin 5 rule. My whole experience this game has been to try and defend myself from her tunneling.

How would tracking her end the tunneling?

 

[SportPonies]

I’m not gonna lie. I feel worse about zenge on reread.
He knows good and well I don’t write a dissertation on wolf reads. I had already said why I thought fluff was wolfy, engaged with her about it, and his comments about me not backing up my thoughts/fluff vote feels like wolf zenge.

All I had on kdawgs last game was similar, I don’t like her intro post and explanation. And here he wants more.

Don’t like it.

My problem with this is that I find V!Z to more actively ask questions and push people than W!Z. So this content from Zenge doesn't particularly bother me.

Not good. This post pinged me right off the bat, particularly the "I'm watching you" bit, felt forced.

I think SAR is wrong to think shes village for putting you and me at the bottom of her list. In RvB she was going after me and AM pretty hard.

Speaking of which I do not like her reads list. AM already asked pretty much everything I wanted asked about it aside from expanding her reasoning on you, which I asked.

Overall it doesn't make a lot of sense to me and the way shes pushing people feels very much like RvB. It's probably where I'll end up voting today.

Which, on that note, this page of Z/samac has felt v/v

 

[Dana_May_B]

can we clarify watcher and tracker again haha-
so trackers track people they think are wolves and
watchers watch people they think are villagers?

so if fluff was trying to track samac, she would have thought samac was a wolf?

 

[Barkley13]

can we clarify watcher and tracker again haha-
so trackers track people they think are wolves and
watchers watch people they think are villagers?

so if fluff was trying to track samac, she would have thought samac was a wolf?

this is correct

 

[SportPonies]

The amount of positively-aligned reacts I’ve received from Mel is spooky.

I probably don’t think this is AI. It’s just spooky.

okay maybe this is AI.

 

[justafluff]

How would tracking her end the tunneling?

It wouldn't. I just wanted to know about her. It would be super easy to tunnel on me as a wolf.

 

[samac]

can we clarify watcher and tracker again haha-
so trackers track people they think are wolves and
watchers watch people they think are villagers?

so if fluff was trying to track samac, she would have thought samac was a wolf?

Shhhh
Let he explain

 

[SportPonies]

I have!
Call me naive but I dislike both the Barks and Timmy wolf-reads. Timmy I could see more but their posting reminds me a whole lot of my scattered village brain tinfoiling last game. Now, my only experience with TME is when they were wolfing in the noob game, but their approach was very hands-off, popping into the thread to clarify mechanics and vote and then poofing away. I recognize that's not a strategy that works in a non-noob game but I'm struggling to reconcile that wolf with this TME.
From what I've seen the Barks vote is based mostly on one comment of hers that didn't ping me when she made it. Open to considering her as a wolf if new information arises but I'm certainly not comfortable going there based on her comment about cubs powervillaging. Didn't feel icky to me.

This post feels villagey.

 

[Barkley13]

On quick ISO of fluff I'm not seeing any samac suspicion from D1

 

[samac]

Though with a lone wolf in the game I will believe she’s a tracker.

 

[Dana_May_B]

It wouldn't. I just wanted to know about her. It would be super easy to tunnel on me as a wolf.

I am unsure about Samac. I felt that her push towards me was similar to her push on kdswg. It sucks that I'm the noob she's tunneling this game, but if that's her way, it's unfortunately consistent with village!Samac. However, I don't understand the arguments about Zenge's comment on the movement of the thread. Why pick up on Zenge when it was True's comment and Bob also pitched in. It felt like she was arguing just for the sake of arguing, and although it was different than the orchestrated argument between her and wolf!Zenge in BoWWling, it didn't feel v/v.

just thinking back on this

 

[Animal Midwife]

It wouldn't. I just wanted to know about her. It would be super easy to tunnel on me as a wolf.

You said this D1:

Cause I had been village reading you [samac] since your pushes are very different from when you were wolfing in BoWWling. Are you asking me to yeet you?

What changed your mind?

 

[justafluff]

On quick ISO of fluff I'm not seeing any samac suspicion from D1

Look Barks Ive tried hard to village read her all game because in my one experience when she was wolfing, she wasn't pushing anyone. But I have my limits too.
Maybe what I've said is way too wolfy for all of you to not vote for me. But maybe if she didn't call out people to yeet me, my vote wouldn't have gotten so much support from both wolves and villagers.

 

[justafluff]

You said this D1:

What changed your mind?

My post about parity and her claiming it was a rojo.

 

[SARdoghandler]

I'm trying to decide if I feel like in a basics(ish) game there would be both a tracker and a watcher

Which is definitely WIFOMy but I can't help but ponder

 

[samac]

I'm trying to decide if I feel like in a basics(ish) game there would be both a tracker and a watcher

Which is definitely WIFOMy but I can't help but ponder

There’s a lone wolf lol

 

[Barkley13]

This is what I found. None of this points to any samac suspicion

Sure. I didn’t exactly dig up all the previous games I played to test it. Its just that none of the first posters strike me as wolfy right off the bat.

Is this a real vote? I don't think Samac's wolfy...

I am unsure about Samac. I felt that her push towards me was similar to her push on kdswg. It sucks that I'm the noob she's tunneling this game, but if that's her way, it's unfortunately consistent with village!Samac. However, I don't understand the arguments about Zenge's comment on the movement of the thread. Why pick up on Zenge when it was True's comment and Bob also pitched in. It felt like she was arguing just for the sake of arguing, and although it was different than the orchestrated argument between her and wolf!Zenge in BoWWling, it didn't feel v/v.

Cause I had been village reading you since your pushes are very different from when you were wolfing in BoWWling. Are you asking me to yeet you?

 

[Animal Midwife]

My post about parity and her claiming it was a rojo.

Why did you say this post samac tracking choice?

The people I would say are cleared for me are those who decided to vote Mel to avoid a TME or a Barks yeet cause they both sounded village by vote close. It's pro village behavior to not want to yeet villagers.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I'm trying to decide if I feel like in a basics(ish) game there would be both a tracker and a watcher

Which is definitely WIFOMy but I can't help but ponder

There was already a Lone Wolf and night cancel, not exactly basic. Tracker and Watcher are at least consistent with basic. Not saying Im 100% on the claim, but you cant use that argument to say its a fakeclaim.

 

[WildZoo]

How are you feeling about them now?

You...want my thoughts on TME and AM?
They're not w/w 😉

 

[cubsrule4e]

This is what I found. None of this points to any samac suspicion

For those looking for village barks in future games, take note of whats happening here lol