MarWWel -- GAME THREAD

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[Dana_May_B]

Gonna be a delay on close, semi surprise work meeting.
also, so chatty. When do any of you sleep?

Spoiler: SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK

 

[kaydubs]

Spoiler: SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK

You be foolish then

 

[BobLoblaw78]

would wolf!fluff really list her packmate barks as one of her wolfiest reads day 1?

I stand corrected barks. I don’t think fluff would do this. Especially with how she played wolf this game. This keeps you as strong village. I think samac, AM, barks, dubz and Dana are all pretty good village reads. Maybe true too based on consistent tone from last game

 

[cubsrule4e]

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What?? But I paid the priority fee! Thats nearly all my parsnips gone!

 

[samac]

Ok, so I lied.
I think barks is village and one) wanted to see who would jump on that train
And two) wanted to try and throw enough sus at her to live tonight as an outted watcher.
Who jumped on that train? No one other than sport sport who I was already suspecting.
What did I do with this time instead of sussing barks?
Search fluffy’s posting pattern with sport sport.
I’m calling the pivotal moment in fluff’s demise when she made the comment about incorrectly defending a wolf. That’s when the tides started to shift

Spoiler: Mentions of sport sport/to sportsport pre pivot

This is who I feel good about at the moment by the way:
Village reading DubZ, True, Dana.
Village to neutral: AM, Genny, Zenge, Mel
Neutral: Bob, PSV, violet, kdswg, Bread, SAR, Sporty, cubs (need to ISO/hear more from them)
Neutral to wolfy: TME, Barks.
I am unsure about Samac. I felt that her push towards me was similar to her push on kdswg. It sucks that I'm the noob she's tunneling this game, but if that's her way, it's unfortunately consistent with village!Samac. However, I don't understand the arguments about Zenge's comment on the movement of the thread. Why pick up on Zenge when it was True's comment and Bob also pitched in. It felt like she was arguing just for the sake of arguing, and although it was different than the orchestrated argument between her and wolf!Zenge in BoWWling, it didn't feel v/v.

about Barks, cubs or sporty?

And breaking point:

So you've never mistakenly defended a wolf before?

And after:

Spoiler: holy interactions bat man

Good morning guys. So I guess it's gonna be me today.
I'm feeling a little better but I have a backlog of homework and don't feel like fighting you to get off my case. I understand that I've sounded wolfy as hell, and I'm very upset at the fact that I can't just argue with anyone without sounding like that. I'm 100% sure that there are wolves on my vote. But since I have no idea at the moment, if I disregard who's voting for me and has pushed me on the thread and didn't get cleared for the Mel train, I'm left with... @SARdoghandler and @kdswg
I understand that you guys can't overlook what I've said but do you have any other reads? @SARdoghandler you stayed on Barks despite the role reveal. Why were you voting there again? @kdswg you voted...True? why?
I'd also love to hear more from @SportPonies and @violetvett .

Like I said, still curious about Sporty, violet and SAR.

The fact that she hasn’t shared any reads yet, except for questioning people here and there. She also voted Barks and then moved to TME just like Mel did.

I’m sorry that you re tired but can you explain your votes on D1?

That's my point. He could be a villager. The fact is that just as Mel didn't care about jumping from one vote to another, so did you.

Oh oops. That's correct. But why Barks? I had my reasons and DubZ had hers. You and SAR I don't get it.

Fair enough. it just sounds like what a wolf would do to gain village cred.

Wait what? Why? I thought you said "because ties" to break it!

That doesn't make sense at all. You were hoping that 2 villagers die to analyze the votes once they flip? Did you even think that you as the tie maker might die? Also creating a tie several min before yeet close, won't give you that info cause votes move.

So @SportPonies joins the thread, I try to question her, and then all of a sudden genny, AM and Dana start pressuring me to role reveal.

I'm not going to give the wolves instructions, thank you

You all read what I say too literally and that has gotten me into huge trouble. I think Sporty is wolfing. So no, I'm not gonna tell her who to vote if its not me.

Yeet Sporty

Why are you voting for me?

I wasn't but got pressure because of it.

This is my POE atm by the way: Sporty, SAR, Bob too I guess.

Ok guys. I'm ded, but at least I can go back to do my homework. I'm really not sure where exactly it went wrong. And although some of the things Ive said have been more aggressive than what I would have preferred to sound like, and I've made stupid mistakes on thread, it sucks to be yeeted as early as I am. I was looking forward to playing again and this just sucks. Hope you give me a chance next time!
unyeet sporty yeet fluff

And for sport sport
Pre comment:

Spoiler: it’s limited and trying to get me off her

I'm not gonna go back and check post order right now (this is a mental note for me to do that after I catch up), but I guess I just don't really see why response order is or isn't wolfy, as someone who pings around like a chinchilla on cocaine when replying to posts.

This possibly is the noobiest noob comment I've seen in a non-noob game.


Don't beat yourself up too much. I'm pretty sure AM is the only person who remembers VCA stuff to that degree of detail. I can't even tell you who I voted for last game besides Dubz in the final cycle.

I think my issue with the extent this Lupin rule nonsense has been discussed this game is the fact that it.... isn't even that great of a "rule" to begin with? I mean, correct me if I'm wrong but it's basically a joke that holds as much water as the LIS rule in this decade.

So why are we still talking about it 9 pages in?

I’m not lurking so much as checking in when I can lol

Tbh the fluff/samac thing feels like it’s getting to the point of distraction, especially when there’s so little other discussion. But I don’t know that I have an independent read on either of them right now.

And post

Spoiler: still feel that their interaction was manufactured, much more

Hello chokers.

What about them? I already did on D1

I didn’t. And why would me “mirroring” Mel be AI anyway when he was a lone wolf?

And have you considered the fact that I was…. Not on TME? Nor was I bouncing from vote to vote?

I was on dubz and switched to Barks.

I thought my reasoning was clear enough. Because ties.

This makes no sense at all. Did you even look at the D1 vote? I CREATED the tie.

Because ties can be useful for analysis purposes. Barks ruined that one by immediately self preszing.

That’s the point. A tie before close GIVES info BECAUSE votes move. You watch for who broke the tie and why.

Ideally my vote would have been closer to close but with the way the thread had been moving up until that point and the fact I was comfortable with a Barks vote, I was happy moving there and creating a tie.

Wat

“If” you’re village?

Okay then

Yeet fluff

Do you have a secret blueprint in your back pocket or something?

….why.

Because you’ve been fabulously sketchtastic for the last several hours. Now answer my question.

My first point still stands.

I think it’s irrelevant here because she’s made enough probable Freudian slips at this point tho

Well, it'll certainly be interesting for me to see how we went from this to all-in on fluff.


idk... if I like this post. Both because I think TME is a gutsy enough player to do it and also because I... don't think that it's AI for many players at all. Particularly for a non-noob.

And I stand by that.

oh I definitely think fluff is wolfing at this point.
The two things are not mutually exclusive.

I've already been over this, AM. There was very little other conversation going on. samac/fluff dominated the thread for pages.

TL;DR: I did this all on my phone and sport sport is a wolf. Whether I die or not. I just hoped i could push enough sus at barks and make it seem I was going there to keep us both alive
Contingency yeet sport sport

 

[Truenamer]

Ok, so I lied.
I think barks is village and one) wanted to see who would jump on that train
And two) wanted to try and throw enough sus at her to live tonight as an outted watcher.
Who jumped on that train? No one other than sport sport who I was already suspecting.
What did I do with this time instead of sussing barks?
Search fluffy’s posting pattern with sport sport.
I’m calling the pivotal moment in fluff’s demise when she made the comment about incorrectly defending a wolf. That’s when the tides started to shift
And breaking point:

And after:

And for sport sport
Pre comment:
And post

TL;DR: I did this all on my phone and sport sport is a wolf. Whether I die or not. I just hoped i could push enough sus at barks and make it seem I was going there to keep us both alive
Contingency yeet sport sport

Damn girl, you clever

I literally spent all night wondering why you would choose Barks of all people to focus on, she seems quite village to me

 

[Dana_May_B]

Ok, so I lied.
I think barks is village and one) wanted to see who would jump on that train
And two) wanted to try and throw enough sus at her to live tonight as an outted watcher.
Who jumped on that train? No one other than sport sport who I was already suspecting.
What did I do with this time instead of sussing barks?
Search fluffy’s posting pattern with sport sport.
I’m calling the pivotal moment in fluff’s demise when she made the comment about incorrectly defending a wolf. That’s when the tides started to shift
And breaking point:

And after:

And for sport sport
Pre comment:
And post

TL;DR: I did this all on my phone and sport sport is a wolf. Whether I die or not. I just hoped i could push enough sus at barks and make it seem I was going there to keep us both alive
Contingency yeet sport sport

i was so so so hoping this was gonna be your plan haha i really didnt wanna have to argue with you about barks all day 🤣

 

[samac]

PRO VILLAGE LYING IS THE BEST

 

[samac]

I am still also interested in cubs, but I’m more interested in sport sport.

 

[WildZoo]

I stand corrected barks. I don’t think fluff would do this. Especially with how she played wolf this game. This keeps you as strong village. I think samac, AM, barks, dubz and Dana are all pretty good village reads. Maybe true too based on consistent tone from last game

I did not order this village read, please return to sender

 

[WildZoo]

Ok, so I lied.
I think barks is village and one) wanted to see who would jump on that train
And two) wanted to try and throw enough sus at her to live tonight as an outted watcher.
Who jumped on that train? No one other than sport sport who I was already suspecting.
What did I do with this time instead of sussing barks?
Search fluffy’s posting pattern with sport sport.
I’m calling the pivotal moment in fluff’s demise when she made the comment about incorrectly defending a wolf. That’s when the tides started to shift
And breaking point:

And after:

And for sport sport
Pre comment:
And post

TL;DR: I did this all on my phone and sport sport is a wolf. Whether I die or not. I just hoped i could push enough sus at barks and make it seem I was going there to keep us both alive
Contingency yeet sport sport

Omg you did 4D chess while I'm over here playing checkers

 

[samac]

Bob I’m also not the best at reading and understand that, but would think it less likely if sport sport does flip wolf.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I am still also interested in cubs, but I’m more interested in sport sport.

What about genny?

 

[samac]

What about genny?

I haven’t really got a read on genny to be honest, but her interactions with fluff felt more genuine on my recent search through fluff

 

[SportPonies]

Samac you give yourself far too much credit if you think I’m gonna chase a Barks yeet solely because you’re kind of putting suspicion on her.

 

[Dana_May_B]

So does this mean i need to reevaluate barks🤔

also wanna repeat that im gonna feel worse about kdswg if cubs flips wolf

 

[WildZoo]

Samac you give yourself far too much credit if you think I’m gonna chase a Barks yeet solely because you’re kind of putting suspicion on her.

Spoiler

 

[samac]

Samac you give yourself far too much credit if you think I’m gonna chase a Barks yeet solely because you’re kind of putting suspicion on her.

I do appreciate that that’s the response and not a rebuttal to my fluff argument.

 

[cubsrule4e]

also wanna repeat that im gonna feel worse about kdswg if cubs flips wolf

So what you gonna do when cubs flips village?

 

[Dana_May_B]

Samac you give yourself far too much credit if you think I’m gonna chase a Barks yeet solely because you’re kind of putting suspicion on her.

personally, it makes absolutely no sense to me to go after barks right after the fluff reveal. just a huge leap in logic i sincerely dont understand. so

 

[WildZoo]

I wonder if TME is still keeping track of my percentages in dead chat. I think I've slipped down to 8% useful content at this point.

 

[SportPonies]

I do appreciate that that’s the response and not a rebuttal to my fluff argument.

well I also just got to work and didn’t read any of your post lol

 

[WildZoo]

So what you gonna do when cubs flips village?

Yeet dubz probably

 

[Zenge142]

also wanna repeat that im gonna feel worse about kdswg if cubs flips wolf

I think cubs is TWTBW, to be honest. There was a point yesterday where he posted about Samac being his second most wolfy candidate.

What wolf does that? Knowing what fluff will flip and that Samac is leading the vote. That sticks out too much to be a real wolf.

 

[SportPonies]

Seriously. With zero other players seriously considering a Barks yeet, why would I stick my neck out that far to sit on an outted PR.

 

[Dana_May_B]

So what you gonna do when cubs flips village?

pinch myself so i can wake up 🤣

 

[WildZoo]

I think cubs is TWTBW, to be honest. There was a point yesterday where he posted about Samac being his second most wolfy candidate.

What wolf does that? Knowing what fluff will flip and that Samac is leading the vote. That sticks out too much to be a real wolf.

Zenge pls. The WIFOM!

 

[cubsrule4e]

pinch myself so i can wake up 🤣

Could you just do that now pls

 

[Zenge142]

Seriously. With zero other players seriously considering a Barks yeet, why would I stick my neck out that far to sit on an outted PR.

How are you reading Dubz? I have concerns.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I think cubs is TWTBW, to be honest. There was a point yesterday where he posted about Samac being his second most wolfy candidate.

What wolf does that? Knowing what fluff will flip and that Samac is leading the vote. That sticks out too much to be a real wolf.

She wasnt the second most wolfy. I was saying I dropped her a little bit, perhaps prematurely, for the aggressive tunneling. But she was right. Shes solid village bloccade obviously.

S'mack is back in the village sack
With dubz and AM thats quite the stack
Now if all of them could just wake up
Theyd realize its village cubs.

 

[Dana_May_B]

Seriously. With zero other players seriously considering a Barks yeet, why would I stick my neck out that far to sit on an outted PR.

because our brave #villager samac stuck her neck out first? and your neck was able to hide underneath the shade of hers?

 

[Zenge142]

She wasnt the second most wolfy. I was saying I dropped her a little bit, perhaps prematurely, for the aggressive tunneling. But she was right. Shes solid village bloccade obviously.

S'mack is back in the village sack
With dubz and AM thats quite the stack
Now if all of them could just wake up
Theyd realize its village cubs.

Cubs pls, why am I not on this list?

 

[cubsrule4e]

How are you reading Dubz? I have concerns.

I find that villageDubz pushes me way harder than when a woof. I guess as a wolf she thinks I'll get taken care of eventually without having to push too hard.

 

[WildZoo]

S'mack is back in the village sack
With dubz and AM thats quite the stack
Now if all of them could just wake up
Theyd realize its village cubs.

I love this but cubbie pls, rapping is wolfy

 

[cubsrule4e]

Cubs pls, why am I not on this list?

Didnt we go through all!thethings that dont rhyme with zenge? Too early for that kinda dedication.

 

[Zenge142]

I find that villageDubz pushes me way harder than when a woof. I guess as a wolf she thinks I'll get taken care of eventually without having to push too hard.

Might be harder to do in these latest games when you’ve come out swinging village though. Change your meta and people have to adapt to respond.

 

[samac]

because our brave #villager samac stuck her neck out first? and your neck was able to hide underneath the shade of hers?

I’m so dead lol

 

[cubsrule4e]

Might be harder to do in these latest games when you’ve come out swinging village though. Change your meta and people have to adapt to respond.

Fair point. But everyone also saying im different this game and im not getting those same village reads.

 

[SportPonies]

How are you reading Dubz? I have concerns.

I said yesterday that I have her villagey at the moment

 

[SportPonies]

because our brave #villager samac stuck her neck out first? and your neck was able to hide underneath the shade of hers?

My statement already accommodates for samac.

She was already heavily wolf reading me. It’s a steep road for me to sheep a read like that when 1) I know she has suspicion on me and 2) again, this is an outted PR that no one else is wolf reading.

 

[cubsrule4e]

How are you reading Dubz? I have concerns.

Pls elaborate gently

 

[Zenge142]

Pls elaborate gently

As soon as write up is posted I’ll delve into it all.

 

[WildZoo]

As soon as write up is posted I’ll delve into it all.

God I hope I'm dead

 

[Zenge142]

She was already heavily wolf reading me.

Which I don’t really understand. I spent a great deal of time reading your wolf games in Stardew and I’m not remotely convinced this is wolf!sporty.

 

[SportPonies]

I am not interested in spending the next two days fighting a samac tunnel like I did with Zenge last game because that was exhausting and miserable.

 

[Dana_May_B]

My statement already accommodates for samac.

She was already heavily wolf reading me. It’s a steep road for me to sheep a read like that when 1) I know she has suspicion on me and 2) again, this is an outted PR that no one else is wolf reading.

im still not buying it based on the principle that i cannot understand the logic of thinking of barks as a top wolf candidate right after the fluff reveal. but i think I've made myself clear and samac has put her opinion, so i dont want to make things not fun for me and you and continue to argue when i dont think we are ever gonna see eye to eye here

 

[SportPonies]

im still not buying it based on the principle that i cannot understand the logic of thinking of barks as a top wolf candidate right after the fluff reveal. but i think I've made myself clear and samac has put her opinion, so i dont want to make things not fun for me and you and continue to argue when i dont think we are ever gonna see eye to eye here

Well then if that’s essentially you saying that you’re gonna wolf read me regardless of what I say today, then that’s not any more fun for me than us arguing all day.

 

[WildZoo]

Some of this is reminding me of the old days of playing with STL where I was just like "HERE ARE ALL MY REAL TRUE THOUGHTS" and he was like "These are my thoughts...maybe...maybe they're actually the opposite... you'll never know 😏 "

It's like, an interesting mix of nostalgia and nausea 🥲

 

[samac]

Some of this is reminding me of the old days of playing with STL where I was just like "HERE ARE ALL MY REAL TRUE THOUGHTS" and he was like "These are my thoughts...maybe...maybe they're actually the opposite... you'll never know 😏 "

It's like, an interesting mix of nostalgia and nausea 🥲

Sometimes a girl just has to be confusing.