MarWWel -- GAME THREAD

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Fluff ISO D1 Pt-2 : Electric Boogaloo
I actually agree with most of your reads. To add in to my village reading of Dana, she feels most like her joking, careless side, kind of like the way she was openwolfing in the noob game after her cover had been blown. But I don't mean to say that she's openwolfing here, just that she was more reserved- careful in the noob game as a wolf undercover.
^In agreement with TME. I think dana also defended fluff early on in D1, so this could be another potential pocket?

It's definitely safer to be inactive, but people will call you out for that as well, so I try to not read too much into it. Although I do feel better about Genny cause she's slightly more active here than in StardeWW.
Oooo, this is interesting. Fluff makes a special contradiction just for genny.

What has you village reading True?
He has felt the same as all of his other games. Awkward intro post, which was explained by him actually prepping it in advance, lots of carefree joking...
Although...he had a couple of quotes that felt icky, like the comment about using my list after I'm ded, but it's most likely referring to his experience in dead chat in BoWWling. I also did not understand his samac vote. I asked if it was a real vote, and he said yes, but today he unyeeted samac saying it was mostly a joke... I don't know...That was a bit weird.
Given that jokes have put him in the spotlight before, I would suspect he'd be more careful. But you're right, he could be wolfing for all I know.
Ok, this makes me feel better about True. Feels like some subtle shade that seems a little too sincere and much to be bussing to me. Congrats true, you're going into my villagey bucket.

I'll always be amazed at how you pulled that off!
god i hope you're village because you have a very comfy pocket :biglove:
The feeling is mutual 😊 I've already been pocketed by you once lol
...ok, this makes me VERY uncomfy. blech blech blech. As true said,
Gonna be absolutely hilarious when we find out that this conversation is w/w

No, I got distracted.

I like Dana and genny.
Does TME still feel sketchy enough for you to vote there?
Yes. I'm still open to seeing how the rest of the cycle goes though.
Oh yikesies. AM likes the only sus people to me so far. But that seems way too blatant to do for a wolf despite how wolfy it is? Still not great. Also AM was the one to prompt fluff to reconsider her village read on true, not a fan at all of this.

Im gonna go back to Barks. I'm lost otherwise. And cubs comment to move away didn't make me feel better.
yeet barks
She called me sketchy after samac did, and she hasn't listed any other reads besides me. I backed off when Cubs interfered but she didn't. So then I became sus that cubs might have been trying to protect her.
Huh. Maybe cubs is village? Neutral at least.

Fluff spent most of her time beefing with samac and barks, so it's difficult to tell who else is in a category. Notably, she did NOT really interact with sporty, bread, or bob on D1.

Also, maybe I'm making a huge assumption here, but wolf!fluff strikes me as more as the type of person to come in trying to gain people's trust first, then start pointing fingers later (sorry if I'm totally misportraying you, fluff lol). Because of that, I would think fluff would be interacting with more villagers early on D1.

To sum up my reads, solely based on D1:
samac, barks, and true are feeling village
zenge + cubs
genny + dana
AM
 
Fluff ISO D1 Pt-2 : Electric Boogaloo
^In agreement with TME. I think dana also defended fluff early on in D1, so this could be another potential pocket?


Oooo, this is interesting. Fluff makes a special contradiction just for genny.




Ok, this makes me feel better about True. Feels like some subtle shade that seems a little too sincere and much to be bussing to me. Congrats true, you're going into my villagey bucket.




...ok, this makes me VERY uncomfy. blech blech blech. As true said,





Oh yikesies. AM likes the only sus people to me so far. But that seems way too blatant to do for a wolf despite how wolfy it is? Still not great. Also AM was the one to prompt fluff to reconsider her village read on true, not a fan at all of this.



Huh. Maybe cubs is village? Neutral at least.

Fluff spent most of her time beefing with samac and barks, so it's difficult to tell who else is in a category. Notably, she did NOT really interact with sporty, bread, or bob on D1.

Also, maybe I'm making a huge assumption here, but wolf!fluff strikes me as more as the type of person to come in trying to gain people's trust first, then start pointing fingers later (sorry if I'm totally misportraying you, fluff lol). Because of that, I would think fluff would be interacting with more villagers early on D1.

To sum up my reads, solely based on D1:
samac, barks, and true are feeling village
zenge + cubs
genny + dana
AM
Really appreciate you going through her posts like this, and glad to see you around generally!
 
See this is unfair because I know if I'm like "omg but the love reacts" I'm not gonna get a bunch of those :yeahright:
See this is why I like nooblets. They're nice unlike some people
*cough*Zenge*cough*
 
Interesting D2 stuff - Fluff edition

Okay here's the debated possible rojo:
Also what does a Lone wolf do? Does it count for us for parity?
Samac and then genny were the first to suggest it being a rojo. I could 100% see a wolf trying to call out a possible rojo just in case to protect themselves. So genny isn't cleared for me because of that.

I'm curious about @SARdoghandler 's vote on Barks. And Bob's last-minute vote on TME although I get that he was catching up. Also, people who moved to Mel last minute without explaining why.
Interesting.

What does Fluff screaming village look like exactly?

Who would you be looking at if Fluff claimed IC right now?
Why are YOU so certain that Fluff will flip village?
Hmmm. It's standing out to me.

I’m not lurking so much as checking in when I can lol

Tbh the fluff/samac thing feels like it’s getting to the point of distraction, especially when there’s so little other discussion. But I don’t know that I have an independent read on either of them right now.
I don't like this post :/

Look if you find me wolfy and want to yeet me, yeet along! But what does cubs have to do with it? In fact, I really don't get why some of you find cubs wolfy. It seems like it's your reads only and whoever questions them ends up in the wolf pile.
I don't like this either. Weird 180 from D1.

Ok, I'm getting sleepy now so I'm going to stop here. Also TIL SDN only censors the naughty words in the post itself, but not in the search preview. Have a good night everyone!
 
Ok, current thoughts since I get annoyed when I have too many quotes.

D1 ISO of one fuzzy ex-mayor fluff pt. 1
Interesting exchange.


Hmmm. Attempted pocket?





^This type of stuff is why I think I got weird vibes from fluff on D1. She was very defensive pretty early on, especially with samac. Same type of behavior is here with Barkley. Barkley is current village for me because of this.


I think this should be a good quote to go back to as the game plays. Barks being listed as wolfy further makes me think they're village. I don't know if this also clears Zenge then, since samac is pretty clearly village, unless fluff was trying to powerwolf.

So. My current village list is samac, barkley, and maybe zenge.
Back into the ISO, I go, wheee
Fluff ISO D1 Pt-2 : Electric Boogaloo
^In agreement with TME. I think dana also defended fluff early on in D1, so this could be another potential pocket?


Oooo, this is interesting. Fluff makes a special contradiction just for genny.




Ok, this makes me feel better about True. Feels like some subtle shade that seems a little too sincere and much to be bussing to me. Congrats true, you're going into my villagey bucket.




...ok, this makes me VERY uncomfy. blech blech blech. As true said,





Oh yikesies. AM likes the only sus people to me so far. But that seems way too blatant to do for a wolf despite how wolfy it is? Still not great. Also AM was the one to prompt fluff to reconsider her village read on true, not a fan at all of this.



Huh. Maybe cubs is village? Neutral at least.

Fluff spent most of her time beefing with samac and barks, so it's difficult to tell who else is in a category. Notably, she did NOT really interact with sporty, bread, or bob on D1.

Also, maybe I'm making a huge assumption here, but wolf!fluff strikes me as more as the type of person to come in trying to gain people's trust first, then start pointing fingers later (sorry if I'm totally misportraying you, fluff lol). Because of that, I would think fluff would be interacting with more villagers early on D1.

To sum up my reads, solely based on D1:
samac, barks, and true are feeling village
zenge + cubs
genny + dana
AM
You omitted multiple quotes of mine regarding fluff.
 
dubz (1) - samac
samac (1) - Bob
Enigma (1) - AM
True (1) - genny
Mel (1) - dubz
dubz () -
fluff (1) - samac
Sporty (1) - violet
True (2) - genny, Barks
samac (2) - Bob, True
violet (1) - cubs
dubz (1) - Sporty
samac (1) - Bob
Mel () -
Barks (1) - dubz
Barks (2) - dubz, SAR
violet (2) - cubs, True
Zenge (1) - Enigma
cubs (1) - Dana
Barks (3) - dubz, SAR, fluff
Barks (4) - dubz, SAR, fluff, Mel
dubz (2) - Sporty, Bread
True (1) - genny
fluff (2) - samac, Barks
Enigma (2) - AM, Zenge
samac () -
Barks (3) - dubz, SAR, fluff
Enigma (3) - AM, Zenge, Mel
AM (1) - psv
True (2) - genny, kdsw
Barks (2) - dubz, SAR
dubz (1) - Sporty
dubz () -
Barks (3) - dubz, SAR, Sporty
fluff (1) - samac
Enigma (4) - AM, Zenge, Mel, Barks
Barks (4) - dubz, SAR, Sporty, fluff
Zenge () -
Barks (5) - dubz, SAR, Sporty, fluff, Enigma
Enigma (5) - AM, Zenge, Mel, Barks, Bread
fluff () -
Mel (1) - samac
Barks (4) - SAR, Sporty, fluff, Enigma
Mel (2) - samac, dubz
violet (1) - cubs
Mel (3) - samac, dubz, True
AM () -
Mel (4) - samac, dubz, True, psv
Barks (3) - SAR, Sporty, fluff
Mel (5) - samac, dubz, True, psv, Enigma
cubs () -
Mel (6) - samac, dubz, True, psv, Enigma, Dana
Enigma (6) - AM, Zenge, Mel, Barks, Bread, Bob
Enigma (5) - AM, Zenge, Mel, Bread, Bob
Mel (7) - samac, dubz, True, psv, Enigma, Dana, Barks

19/19
fluff (1) - samac
cubs (1) - dubz
cubs (2) - dubz, Dana
cubs (3) - dubz, Dana, cubs
fluff (2) - samac, Zenge
fluff (3) - samac, Zenge, fluff
fluff (4) - samac, Zenge, fluff, SAR
cubs (2) - dubz, cubs
fluff (5) - samac, Zenge, fluff, SAR, Dana
cubs (3) - dubz, cubs, genny
fluff (6) - samac, Zenge, fluff, SAR, Dana, True
fluff (7) - samac, Zenge, fluff, SAR, Dana, True, psv
fluff (8) - samac, Zenge, fluff, SAR, Dana, True, psv, Barks
fluff (9) - samac, Zenge, fluff, SAR, Dana, True, psv, Barks, AM
fluff (8) - samac, Zenge, SAR, Dana, True, psv, Barks, AM
fluff (9) - samac, Zenge, SAR, Dana, True, psv, Barks, AM, Sporty
cubs (2) - dubz, genny
True (1) - cubs
Sporty (1) - fluff
True (2) - cubs, kdsw
fluff (10) - samac, Zenge, SAR, Dana, True, psv, Barks, AM, Sporty, Bob
fluff (11) - samac, Zenge, SAR, Dana, True, psv, Barks, AM, Sporty, Bob, violet
Sporty () -
fluff (12) - samac, Zenge, SAR, Dana, True, psv, Barks, AM, Sporty, Bob, violet, fluff

16/17
Missing: Bread
 
I would like to introduce this group of noobs to the term anti-spew though. Anti-spew is when a wolf knows they're dying and says things intentionally to confuse and make people look like viable teammates when they're actually not and vice versa. Analyzing said wolf's posts during anti-spew is pointless.
This. So much this.
 
Since I'm not a desperate wolf this time I'll say I don't think it's reasonable to go after you. Your interaction with fluff didn't feel fake to me. If anything I think it's entirely possible she was going after you because I was. She said she didn't realize I was on your vote but I don't quite believe that.

I really think we should yeet cubs. Really really. I'm not as good at this as samac is though so, you know.
Big brain time
 
I'm going over fluff's posts from D1 rn, I'll post in a little bit what I find. Only thing I've got right now is that if samac is a wolf, she's the rudest one I've ever seen. Aka I'm 99.99% sure she's village and I really hope that if we have a protector they'll keep her safe. She seems like she would be target #1 by wolves considering how hard she went into fluff. I'll have better reads in a little bit though.
I mean.
What if I am wolf?!
 
Why do you always have to be so contrary 😛 I don't think it's been wrong yet for the people it's been applied to.
No, I think it’s reasonable…. To some extent. But I’m afraid of living in a world where things are strictly black and white because rarely is it that simple.

I already explained myself on the matter in the post you quoted. Short of other evidence to village read a player, I don’t think voting a wolf/“bussing” should hard clear them every. Time.
 
Since samac is gonna explode in with Barks stuff momentarily, I’ll be interested to see if she mentions some of the same I do.

Last night during read through, I noticed barks pulled her vote from fluff to TME fairly quickly (and also rather early iirc). I don’t care much for VCA but the fact it caught my eye was notable.

fluff was marginally no longer the leading wagon so maybe this was just a genuine self prez effort, but it was also odd vote movement for a typical self prez
 
I think I’m only 10 pages behind now, some random bunch in the middle of the thread.

I’m interested in seeing whether I can get a Bob read or cubs soul read during those pages. As it is, I’m still nervous to consider voting cubs but those are my own misgivings.
 
I have no idea what to make of the cubs self vote and thread exit. Felt very premature woe is me
But if 2 wolves threw up their hands and gave up
I am confused.
Some of fluff’s behavior struck me as unsure of what to do and just sheeping cubs behavior. I guess I could see that happening as an inexperienced wolf. But part of me would also think an inexperienced wolf would know to create some distance. When I had my back to the wall, I was looking for any possible suggestions of what to do.
 
I think I’m only 10 pages behind now, some random bunch in the middle of the thread.

I’m interested in seeing whether I can get a Bob read or cubs soul read during those pages. As it is, I’m still nervous to consider voting cubs but those are my own misgivings.
I agree about cubs, but he almost becomes the same scenario that fluff was in. Too much sus to not flip. Either becomes easy misyeet material later or a wolf in endgame.

Plus, the self vote that early on for just discussing his defense. Then fluff following suit was weird. And is that something a villager would do.
 
Why'd you choose her?
Fluff was a no brainer.

The die was cast long ago for her. I just hate it when wagon go runaway. It leaves little room for discussion. And it makes me sad when everyone is piling on that person (I have been that person and it don’t feel good). Plus. I like to encourage the likely wolf to talk and give us more info to use to look for other wolves.
 
You encouraged me to role reveal and now you yeet me?
The stall on the role reveal was just another nail in the coffin. But I did feel slimy about asking for role reveal. I just have become more resistant to believing last minute role reveals when it has become obvious which way the vote is headed. It almost feels like role reveal should be personal decision
 
Since samac is gonna explode in with Barks stuff momentarily, I’ll be interested to see if she mentions some of the same I do.

Last night during read through, I noticed barks pulled her vote from fluff to TME fairly quickly (and also rather early iirc). I don’t care much for VCA but the fact it caught my eye was notable.

fluff was marginally no longer the leading wagon so maybe this was just a genuine self prez effort, but it was also odd vote movement for a typical self prez
It was 50 minutes to vote close and TME and I were tied. And I said I’d still be voting fluff if I wasn’t self prezzing. How is that quickly?
 
This is my POE atm by the way: Sporty, SAR, Bob too I guess.
I would’ve preferred to be strongly in fluff’s POE. Not just an I guess.

Sporty and SAR being there gives me pause. They were in lower part of my neutral (I should do a list to organize my thoughts). But they were close to my POE.

Fluff’s play has not seemed good about distancing from other wolf (assuming cubs flips wolf). So I am not sure of the likelihood that fluff would put a packmate in her POE…. Hmm
 
Quoting this to see if there was follow-through, because with this post alone, I'm not impressed.


This post feels wolfy. I know it's not game related, but the wording feels so wolfy.
I do think that recent giant wall post overrides this, but still.
I think True has posted plenty about taking care of his dog like this. I think it is his tone and style that you just have to get used to to a certain degree. (I read some of the same wolfy last game)
 
I think True has posted plenty about taking care of his dog like this. I think it is his tone and style that you just have to get used to to a certain degree. (I read some of the same wolfy last game)
I don’t think the content is wolfy nor is discussing the dog AI in a wolfy sense. Just something about the post felt off to me.
 
I know Bob just said he's been very busy but I haven't seen much of him in the last numerous pages and I think I would like to go back to believing I am good at reading him. So his absence, at very least, makes me... sad. And at worst, makes me worried.
I read this and immediately went to check post count. 😞 (I was gonna point out how I’ve posted more than you). Lol. Oops

It always feels like my post count is higher than it really is.

I have been trying to complete work things by phone while out of town for girls bball state tourney. Also watching games and kids and trying to be present for it.
 
No, I think it’s reasonable…. To some extent. But I’m afraid of living in a world where things are strictly black and white because rarely is it that simple.

I already explained myself on the matter in the post you quoted. Short of other evidence to village read a player, I don’t think voting a wolf/“bussing” should hard clear them every. Time.
Do you think AM bussed fluff?
 
I read this and immediately went to check post count. 😞 (I was gonna point out how I’ve posted more than you). Lol. Oops

It always feels like my post count is higher than it really is.

I have been trying to complete work things by phone while out of town for girls bball state tourney. Also watching games and kids and trying to be present for it.
I NEVER vote someone just for being quiet. I’m just used to getting a handle on village!Bob fairly well regardless of post count.
 
I would’ve preferred to be strongly in fluff’s POE. Not just an I guess.

Sporty and SAR being there gives me pause. They were in lower part of my neutral (I should do a list to organize my thoughts). But they were close to my POE.

Fluff’s play has not seemed good about distancing from other wolf (assuming cubs flips wolf). So I am not sure of the likelihood that fluff would put a packmate in her POE…. Hmm
Honestly that POE came too late to be analyzed. Though there is some general trend somewhere that says when wolves post 3 person POEs like that, there's usually at least one wolf in them. I just don't think we can truly analyze much of what fluff said after it was clear she was going down.
 
I think True has posted plenty about taking care of his dog like this. I think it is his tone and style that you just have to get used to to a certain degree. (I read some of the same wolfy last game)
He's an emotionally needy boy, pictured here desperately trying to give the new kittens his love

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This seems extremely reminiscent of the way you tried pushing a Stoat yeet last game.

To be blunt, of the two of us, I've voted out two wolves. You've voted out zero, along with several other folks. Why are you so focused on me, specifically?

EDIT- I see that this was a joke. Apologies for not recognizing that, it felt identical to your not-joke posts earlier in the day.
I’m sorry, sleep deprived Kds is not as funny as she things she is. And looking back my tone is pretty harsh on some of the things I said about you, so for that I’m sorry, I know it already doesn’t feel great when someone is tunneled on you and that doesn’t help. I meant most of my comments in jest but I’m not very good at tone via text. I focused on you bc you and fluff were my biggest reads, and everyone else had covered fluffs weirdness and it didn’t feel productive to keep piling on. But I really do feel bad for the way I attacked you yesterday, and I’m going to back off (unless you start howling or something)

(And do I still need keep to defend my joke vote on stoat here?! I wasn’t pushing her yeet!!!!)
 
I’m sorry, sleep deprived Kds is not as funny as she things she is. And looking back my tone is pretty harsh on some of the things I said about you, so for that I’m sorry, I know it already doesn’t feel great when someone is tunneled on you and that doesn’t help. I meant most of my comments in jest but I’m not very good at tone via text. I focused on you bc you and fluff were my biggest reads, and everyone else had covered fluffs weirdness and it didn’t feel productive to keep piling on. But I really do feel bad for the way I attacked you yesterday, and I’m going to back off (unless you start howling or something)

(And do I still need keep to defend my joke vote on stoat here?! I wasn’t pushing her yeet!!!!)
This post has finally made me realize why people prefer being village versus wolf; because it feels really nice knowing that at the end of the game, I get to feel good about comments like this and vindicated versus being manipulative.

Well, this, and the fact that what Fluff went through yesterday looked stressful as heck
 
DAY 2: WE ARE GROOT WRITE UP

Will to be a goddess out for revenge or a race that has a grudge on humans or a man who likes to keep everything in balance? Or will it be a human who likes to control the world politics? This we may never know, but when the time comes will the Avengers and their trusted allies rise to the occasion or fail with Earth destroyed in the process?

This seems like definite references to roles. Not that I think someone would role reveal a villain. But fun to guess

So goddess (Helena?). A race (Kree or chturi- sp). Thanos? Politician??? Maybe Robert Redford character?
 
This seems like definite references to roles. Not that I think someone would role reveal a villain. But fun to guess

So goddess (Helena?). A race (Kree or chturi- sp). Thanos? Politician??? Maybe Robert Redford character?
Either way, there are four distinct things mentioned and none of them fit Ego, the Lone Wolf.

Kinda suggests we have have three more woofs roaming around?
 
Do you think I'm compatible with fluff after we argued for literally forever yesterday?
I would have to go back and look how early you started on fluff. That fluff yeet could be seen coming forever so I could see a wolf trying to “bus” once they saw the writing on the wall.

I don’t know your wolfmeta and your bussability.
 
I would have to go back and look how early you started on fluff. That fluff yeet could be seen coming forever so I could see a wolf trying to “bus” once they saw the writing on the wall.

I don’t know your wolfmeta and your bussability.
i think barks was talking about their argument on day 1, when fluff was not really at risk of being yeeted in my opinion. it was TME and barks who were at risk. and fluff contributed to that by yeeting barks.... just not really adding up in my head to bus *that* early
 
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