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Achromatic said:
My guy

If tracker is the last pr it's doctor tracker inventor

Are you ok
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Because if we’re in row 2 mafia has a blocker.
Why would they kill the town doc when they could just role block her if everyone is saying “we’ll deal with her tomorrow?”
 
So that’s why if there is another PR they need to out themselves. We get wolf moon.
There’s also one more 1x doc out there if it goes before a kill so that or would be detected tonight.

This is your village samac
Pls listen
 
So. No Pr outs themself I’m bloccing moon.

@Zenge142 dubz? I’m having second thoughts but I don’t know if it’s just mid game paranoia
 
samac said:
Because if we’re in row 2 mafia has a blocker.
Why would they kill the town doc when they could just role block her if everyone is saying “we’ll deal with her tomorrow?”
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Ok I think you are confused

I never said to kill moon tomorrow.
 
I said that moon is confirmable as town or wolf be ausw tomorrow we should out prs
 
samac said:
God I’m posting too much

Post count

Yeet gikkle
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Why's gikkle you're number 1 choice now?

If I was here at EOD yesterday, that's where I would've voted, but I'm actually feeling a little better about gikkle today. I thought the reasoning they put forth about you and santy today was pretty solid, and imo would point to w!gikkle opting to kill you last night.
 
I am expecting psv to push achro today as a result of their difference check with santy they stated yesterday. That said, I'm not sure w!psv wants to kill santy because it then sets them up for that world.
 
I'm still working to wrap my head around this game and I've gotta head to work now, but I'll catch y'all on the flipity flop.
 
samac said:
So. No Pr outs themself I’m bloccing moon.

@Zenge142 dubz? I’m having second thoughts but I don’t know if it’s just mid game paranoia
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I probably should take a closer look now that there’s more content.

I’ll let you know
 
marmot` said:
Why's gikkle you're number 1 choice now?

If I was here at EOD yesterday, that's where I would've voted, but I'm actually feeling a little better about gikkle today. I thought the reasoning they put forth about you and santy today was pretty solid, and imo would point to w!gikkle opting to kill you last night.
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I haven’t formulated new thoughts yet and wanted a vote on the board for a post count.
 
samac said:
So that’s why if there is another PR they need to out themselves. We get wolf moon.
There’s also one more 1x doc out there if it goes before a kill so that or would be detected tonight.

This is your village samac
Pls listen
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No, looks like it's a 1x track. Not doctor
 
If you understood then you would know moon is a binary atm and there's no need to care if they are alive tomorrow or not
 
samac said:
Welcome into a slot that’s in many POEs again.
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Zenge142 said:
Knowing there’s 3 total wolves now I think it’s worth reevaluating this a little close.

When I thought there were only two, that was a little different.

But I guess with 3 I can see how this could potentially be a fake claim
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I'm not following why fake claim is more likely with 3 wolves than 2 in your mind
 
Ok now that I’ve gotten over the shock of zenge hitting the thread with egg on his face I wanna know your thought processes Zenges?
Did you think Archo and I were exclusively paired and no one else would fit?
How does knowing there are 3 wolves change things?
 
moonstermash said:
I was hardly exaggerating; it was a lean scum on 2 posts, I'm not out here death tunneling or anything.

Comparing Santy's entrance to Zenges' (and Dubz' after), it just seemed a bit worse. Neither of them felt the need to immediately explain their (in)activity; Santy doing that at all felt overexplained, regardless of length. But I acknowledged while making the initial read that it could be NAI, so I didn't really walk anywhere to walk back from.
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this feels village
 
potentialsheltervet said:
I'm mulling this over and I'm not sure this is correct. We only have three PRs and one is now dead. If moon is lying, we catch one wolf, but then the second PR is virtually guaranteed to die tonight. One village PR left, two wolves. What's the risk-benefit analysis there?
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Usually I'm not one for outting things but I'm rethinking things given Stagg flip. My whole view of the game is all wonky now.

I think samac's right, if moon is village wolves just keep blocking her and dangling her as yeet bait. So she's a lameduck PR anyway. If she's wolf, she can keep claiming to be blocked and we probably wouldn't know otherwise?

So I guess the question is whether there's enough confidence that her claim is fake to vote her without asking the remaining PR to out themselves. I think that's the crossroads we're at.
 
samac said:
What did you think santy was softing @Gikkle ?
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I didn't think they were softing anything

I thought you had slipped you knew some mech knowledge wrt the JoAT and were trying to find out if there was an MD bc you were trying to identify if moon was telling the truth or not (so I thought you were jailkeeper bc if MD exists, doctor wouldn't)

And I thought Santy picked up on that bc in their conversation with Zenge they were like "why do you think Samac would be asking about MD"
 
samac said:
Ok now that I’ve gotten over the shock of zenge hitting the thread with egg on his face I wanna know your thought processes Zenges?
Did you think Archo and I were exclusively paired and no one else would fit?
How does knowing there are 3 wolves change things?
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Yeah it just seemed like a perfect pack. It made sense.

Three wolves existing means I was looking at the game state entirely from the wrong perspective on EVERYTHING, and needed to re-evaluate it all. And in a clean slate read I came to the conclusion you were village.
 
Gikkle said:
(spoilers just contain quotes. note that some quotes may be missing if I felt they were less relevant/fluff)

I don't have the meta that santy has, so from my perspective these posts are nothing special. If another person familiar with genny's meta aside from Santy can confirm that genny has a meta of not really providing independent thoughts as a wolf (and that these posts in this game are outside of that wolf meta), then I'd be willing to trust in a >rand town genny (for now)

That being said, @genny could I get some explanations for these reads?

Cut out a lot of wildzoo's posts bc it's literally all fluff

Not a good look for wildzoo - active, but they aren't being helpful at all.

@WildZoo can I get a top 3 scum/town as of rn?

I liked Stagg's call out of spacecamp. Lean town for rn.

The way Shinichi phrases that top post rings some bells for me (the "if anything the slot should currently just be null" part), but it's nothing strong. More like a "I feel like wolves are more inclined to say something like that bc it makes them look like they have are contributing to the discussion in some way"

Don't really get any kind of vibe from this, but it does sort of unpair Achromatic & Santy in my mind. Just feels like a weird way to talk about a partner right off the bat.

meh posts, towny mindmeld makes no sense bc I was just asking how to vote (possibly a joke? but in that case he's posted nothing substantial, so...)

@Santygrass and @mkg323 both claimed to have liked his entrance - could you both elaborate on what it was in these posts that seemed townie to you?

Like Wild Zoo, Clem is relatively active but entirely unhelpful. Not a good look.

@Clem J same as wild zoo, can I get a top 3 scum/town?

I have a feeling Santy's gonna be the type of person I'll never be able to entirely trust, regardless of alignment

Tonally, Santy comes across a bit forced. Like they're trying to appear relaxed/uninformed.

Actual content of their posts isn't terrible? I liked the explanation for the genny read, although it isn't anything unfakable.

I'll probably need to see how Santy plays out this day phase before I come to an actual solid read on them tbh

A lot of fluff, but a couple helpful posts mixed in. This is at least better than WildZoo & Clem, but still nothing great.

@mkg323 same as wildzoo and clem, can I get a top 3 town/scum?

Response to me was fairly good, rest of their posts could go either way. >rand town.

I initially liked the energy of these posts - came across as a villager excited to solve.

The actual content of the posts is meh - lots of unexplained reads. I would like to see more of @samac's actual thought processes for their reads.

Cooould be getting pocketed here? But I actually did like the very last post here. Doubling down on the TR after saying I distrust people who TR me is a fairly good look imo.



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