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the vibes are good with spacecamp and gikkles thread entrances imho
Disagree.

Bitch you were my top village read
Santy only got above you for mechanics
(I feel like I need to qualify because it’s text the bitch is like “BITCH PLEASSSSEEE”
Not in a mean way
I realize you can’t hear my tone in text)
Wait. "Bitch" doesn't get censored here? Is this some pre-vet/vet forum science witchcraft s***???
 
Oho oho

Yeet ShinichiMD

Now I will see how many posts I have. 500 IQ idea
 
pourquoi?
Gikkle feels null so far, not much there. This felt off though:
Towny mindmeld
This was their 3rd post and first two were basically nothing. Seems like a way to give themselves village cred by contributing little to nothing. Kind of a way to low-key get into mild village leans while laying low. Comes off as more of a sneaky entrance than town imo.
 
This was their 3rd post and first two were basically nothing. Seems like a way to give themselves village cred by contributing little to nothing. Kind of a way to low-key get into mild village leans while laying low. Comes off as more of a sneaky entrance than town imo.
I like the thought process behind this post

Imma be honest idk how you can have a "towny
mindmeld" with someone who is just asking how to vote
 
I like Gikkle’s analysis here. It feels genuine and towny.

I don’t necessarily agree about the performative nature of it, at this moment, but I like how the thought process has been walked through here.
I have a natural distrust of anyone who TRs me

You're on my watchlist now buddy
 
I feel weird but

I am townreading genny rn. I never expected to have this sort of read
something about the way you're posting is tripping every alarm bell in my brain and idk what it is

Can you explain this TR?
 
I have a natural distrust of anyone who TRs me

You're on my watchlist now buddy
If you want to make a wolf case on yourself I’m all ears, but this is only exacerbating my town read on you tbh
 
something about the way you're posting is tripping every alarm bell in my brain and idk what it is

Can you explain this TR?

For context genny is a player that is 'just genny' for their style of play and very hard to read. Last game they were scum and won.

I think their post still are on a 'genny' level of input/on their own game kind of vibe, but first impression feels very different from the genny that was more of an observer and didnt put much independent thought into the thread. Genny coming and giving 3 trs and moving along felt good to me
 
Just out of curiosity, how long have you been playing mafia?

I've been at it for 6 years, and I've seen some things. :oldman: (For example, I played a Wizard of Oz game where the mods made Glinda a serial killer, and I still haven't forgiven them TBH.)
Glinda was sus tho, giving the shoes of your dead nemesis to the literal child that just killed her is some serial killer ****
 
Unvote Dubz
Vote Santy
Since no edit, meant to say largely feels off right now. Mostly just handing out town reads and defending that he's played with Achro then deops a vote that seemed very out of nowhere and odd. Not sure I really understand the brief explanation either. Largely just feels off. Certainly not set here, but biggest concern at the moment.
 
If you see me handing out townreads, do you expect from me to have a vote that is from an expected place?

And how much do you remember about my D1 Stagg pls? Its super common for me to just give away easy townreads like almlst always? I have some times in where I just start biting aswell but not always the case?

And tbh I want you to be honest with yourself and look at how you've read me in past games with the 'off' vibe and how many times you were right about it .

I mean just last game you misread me (even after you were ded and sussing me from the graveyard) , and my start was cowclearing Zenge shshdhshsh
 
Glinda was sus tho, giving the shoes of your dead nemesis to the literal child that just killed her is some serial killer ****
Excuse me, Glinda the Good gave Dorothy the shoes to keep them from the Wicked Witch of the West, as she should. Also, Dorothy didn't kill the Wicked Witch of the East, the tornado did. (Now, did Dorothy kill the WW of the West? Yes. Frankly, I think I'd accept Dorothy as an SK before Glinda.)
 
Like Im not going to question Gikkle because I can understand that sometimes tonally Im a mess and just spew things without consolidating much on where I want to go.

But from you I have a higher standard and expect at least more wavering or counciousness about it? I feel a bit like you are following what Gikkle said about feeling off + moon questioning my vote and trying to maybe capitalize that to put sus
 
If you see me handing out townreads, do you expect from me to have a vote that is from an expected place?

And how much do you remember about my D1 Stagg pls? Its super common for me to just give away easy townreads like almlst always? I have some times in where I just start biting aswell but not always the case?

And tbh I want you to be honest with yourself and look at how you've read me in past games with the 'off' vibe and how many times you were right about it .

I mean just last game you misread me (even after you were ded and sussing me from the graveyard) , and my start was cowclearing Zenge shshdhshsh
Like, I dont remember a single time that you outside of after mech were revealed townread me for you to have a grasp of when Im feeling off rather than you recognizing that usually you dont know how to read me or something along the lines
 
What is the town!santy tone that you expect Stagg?


Also i should be more concise with my posts, feels like Im wasting some but I trust that Im not posting *that* much
 
Actually, since I can't vote the mods,

Vote Clem J

for Glinda libel, TBH.

Really I just also want to see my post count, and I don't have a serious vote yet. 😉
 
If you see me handing out townreads, do you expect from me to have a vote that is from an expected place?

And how much do you remember about my D1 Stagg pls? Its super common for me to just give away easy townreads like almlst always? I have some times in where I just start biting aswell but not always the case?

And tbh I want you to be honest with yourself and look at how you've read me in past games with the 'off' vibe and how many times you were right about it .

I mean just last game you misread me (even after you were ded and sussing me from the graveyard) , and my start was cowclearing Zenge shshdhshsh
There's a difference between me feeling you were sketchy in past games (which you ended up being town) and you feeling off/different this game. It's just a D1 early feeling and I'm far from committed, but I expect to see more actual solving or at least attempts at solving before D1 ends. And yes, you give out some town reads, but like I said I feel like that and the interactions with Achro are the only things you've done so far.
 
There's a difference between me feeling you were sketchy in past games (which you ended up being town) and you feeling off/different this game. It's just a D1 early feeling and I'm far from committed, but I expect to see more actual solving or at least attempts at solving before D1 ends. And yes, you give out some town reads, but like I said I feel like that and the interactions with Achro are the only things you've done so far.
And why handing townreads and speaking about meta with and unknown player are bad things? Or 'not enough' ?

What did dubz do? Or Zenge? Or Moon?

Did they do more??? Cause I dont get it
 
What is the town!santy tone that you expect Stagg?


Also i should be more concise with my posts, feels like Im wasting some but I trust that Im not posting *that* much
Eh, not going to tell you how to get a town read from me, I do usually come around to you just being a somewhat sketchy villager even if it doesn't always outwardly feel that way.
 
And why handing townreads and speaking about meta with and unknown player are bad things? Or 'not enough' ?

What did dubz do? Or Zenge? Or Moon?

Did they do more??? Cause I dont get it
Like I feel its super early on D1 to paint an 'not enough solving' or 'just that' statement when I think compared to other slots im doing more and townreads *involve* solving so its just nonsense.

And still I dont know what are you seeing as 'different' or what is your image of me to say that.

Yikes I think one of the two last games we played I was shrug yeeting genny most of D1 because it felt like the yeet I had less trouble doing so . Which is super similar to why I am voting shinichi rn wowee
 
And why handing townreads and speaking about meta with and unknown player are bad things? Or 'not enough' ?

What did dubz do? Or Zenge? Or Moon?

Did they do more??? Cause I dont get it

I always try and kill Dubz. It's not WW on SDN if I don't. Zenge was mostly a joke in regards to the cow, thought you'd get that. He feels decent right now tough. Moon is on my radar. So far I think D1 has a few things to look back at already.
 
I always try and kill Dubz. It's not WW on SDN if I don't. Zenge was mostly a joke in regards to the cow, thought you'd get that. He feels decent right now tough. Moon is on my radar. So far I think D1 has a few things to look back at already.
I was not asking about how you feel about them. I was asking about the content and solving they've been doing.

How much is it?? Is it that much more than me?

Or the opposite?
 
Yikes I think one of the two last games we played I was shrug yeeting genny most of D1 because it felt like the yeet I had less trouble doing so . Which is super similar to why I am voting shinichi rn wowee
Can you find which game? I don't recall that but if I'm wrong I'd obviously like to know.
 
I was not asking about how you feel about them. I was asking about the content and solving they've been doing.

How much is it?? Is it that much more than me?

Or the opposite?
Moon is more, which I find interesting since I don't know them. Seems like they were reading into a lot very early. Not sure where I stand with that but it's notable. Dubz feels like typical D1 Dubz. I admit I suck at reading her and don't usually get a feel for a while with her. I don't have a ton to go off of Zenge, but feels like typical Zenge. In his wolf game I felt he was off pretty quickly and I'm not getting that right now.

Other example, genny seems pretty aggressive early. Not sure how I feel about that but I think it's more of a positive than a negative there.
 
Can you find which game? I don't recall that but if I'm wrong I'd obviously like to know.
It was melee . I voted genny in RVS and maintauned it quite a bit because I only had townreads and was looking at the people I would be less bothered if they got yeeted atm
 
Moon is more, which I find interesting since I don't know them. Seems like they were reading into a lot very early. Not sure where I stand with that but it's notable. Dubz feels like typical D1 Dubz. I admit I suck at reading her and don't usually get a feel for a while with her. I don't have a ton to go off of Zenge, but feels like typical Zenge. In his wolf game I felt he was off pretty quickly and I'm not getting that right now.

Other example, genny seems pretty aggressive early. Not sure how I feel about that but I think it's more of a positive than a negative there.
You answered the more or less only about moon and then switched to talking once again how you feel about them .

My point was making you realize that painting what I've doing as 'just that' feels super crazy / non-real since I think I've doing the same or more to most of the slots playing rn
 
(spoilers just contain quotes. note that some quotes may be missing if I felt they were less relevant/fluff)

does this have any motivation behind it, or just felt like picking on zenges?
samac, santy, achro can be town.

@Stagg737 is 100% wolf
oh i thought i'd be attracting votes
i'm not feeling that yet
I don't have the meta that santy has, so from my perspective these posts are nothing special. If another person familiar with genny's meta aside from Santy can confirm that genny has a meta of not really providing independent thoughts as a wolf (and that these posts in this game are outside of that wolf meta), then I'd be willing to trust in a >rand town genny (for now)

That being said, @genny could I get some explanations for these reads?

Woah! You're not authorized to hold that permit, and you weren't authorized to open that spoiler!
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Wait she feels pretty much like last game to me
Oh you mean

Last last game
YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT LAST GAMES
Cut out a lot of wildzoo's posts bc it's literally all fluff

Not a good look for wildzoo - active, but they aren't being helpful at all.

@WildZoo can I get a top 3 scum/town as of rn?

No need to miss me anymore, I'm here.


Bold move, Cotton.


Ftfy
Does he? @Zenge142 , moo for me.


For how long?

And always, but am I scum?
Not sure if I should vote Dubz because Dubz or if I should vote Samac for saying Dubz is always town 🤔. Who am I kidding?

Vote Dubz


On a mildly serious note, this feels kind of ick. -5 from Gryffpufftherclaw.
Disagree.



Wait. "Bitch" doesn't get censored here? Is this some pre-vet/vet forum science witchcraft s***???
Gikkle feels null so far, not much there. This felt off though:

This was their 3rd post and first two were basically nothing. Seems like a way to give themselves village cred by contributing little to nothing. Kind of a way to low-key get into mild village leans while laying low. Comes off as more of a sneaky entrance than town imo.
Wait, are you my doppelganger from another site? @Animal Midwife , is this a future sketchmason?!?
I liked Stagg's call out of spacecamp. Lean town for rn.

Is this a Meta thing for santy? Because if anything the slot should currently just be null.
Might be a stranger to a few, but some people should know me. I go by ChadMD on discord and Shinichi on MU.
The way Shinichi phrases that top post rings some bells for me (the "if anything the slot should currently just be null" part), but it's nothing strong. More like a "I feel like wolves are more inclined to say something like that bc it makes them look like they have are contributing to the discussion in some way"

Santy is town.

I will update with further reads when they come to me.
Santy as scum would do more than they did before working. I will trust this read for today and work with him to murder a scum.
I just think I know the color of santy's soul. Don't mind me.
Don't really get any kind of vibe from this, but it does sort of unpair Achromatic & Santy in my mind. Just feels like a weird way to talk about a partner right off the bat.

Checking in to say I have read nothing.
Towny mindmeld
Min 40 is above my normal preferred threshold. But the max is nice.

Who is super shorty and why is your vote there?
meh posts, towny mindmeld makes no sense bc I was just asking how to vote (possibly a joke? but in that case he's posted nothing substantial, so...)

@Santygrass and @mkg323 both claimed to have liked his entrance - could you both elaborate on what it was in these posts that seemed townie to you?

Not to be THAT guy about grammar, but I believe the grammatically correct way to say this is "no yeets are allowed."

Which is gonna make it pretty hard to win but it's your game ig
Why are you trying to kill me
Oh I  can do it, i just dont want to lol
Welcome to the low posting gang, we have cookies and tea
You mightve tbh all I remember is that you were mafia and nobody believed me

And then I was unbearably smug about it afterwards, I assume
Like Wild Zoo, Clem is relatively active but entirely unhelpful. Not a good look.

@Clem J same as wild zoo, can I get a top 3 scum/town?

Aight, I already said all the thoughts that were in my head. Back to work we go.

Good talk good talk
Towny mindmeld hmmyes

Also Hi Achro!!! Hype to play with you again. Missing the magikarp pfp
Have we played before together? Im not sure bit Im asking just in case
Yeah I think your name was on the back on my mind from maybe seeing you as a spec or something. I didnt play any of these games here but we could've played on MU for sure a mash or my brain has skill issue.

Needing to check if you did a snapread from an unknown or at least you had some sort of vibe from me
Nah these are my workhours. How much Inpost until later today depends mostly on how much I procastinate work :^)
First impression I liked spacecamp entry just on vibes?


Dubz are you a wolf?? Howl for me
Also in regards to Achro townreading me I think it can come mostly from Achro kinda knowing I tend to be OMGussy , and last time we were both town together we vibed real good.

So good idea to pocket me either as town or mafia , and I'll let it happen for now. Scum must be murdered.
Dubz is town! Samac was right!
But do you believe it then or no?

Are you asking for people to sanity check you or something?
I think we played some games together (some on MU / mashes and that kind of stuff) , but those are a few. I think the most notable to me at least is Misplay Mafia on the syndicate .

We were both town and I was kinda salty at the majority of the town for a while, and with Achro they kinda madr an effort to see me in the eyes and our souls aligned and GOATed and yeeted scum!Mac which felt great :hmmyes:

(In the end town lost that game was just rough wowee)
I feel weird but

I am townreading genny rn. I never expected to have this sort of read
Also this non related to the actual conversation read feels towny to me
Oho oho

Yeet ShinichiMD

Now I will see how many posts I have. 500 IQ idea
For context genny is a player that is 'just genny' for their style of play and very hard to read. Last game they were scum and won.

I think their post still are on a 'genny' level of input/on their own game kind of vibe, but first impression feels very different from the genny that was more of an observer and didnt put much independent thought into the thread. Genny coming and giving 3 trs and moving along felt good to me
I have a feeling Santy's gonna be the type of person I'll never be able to entirely trust, regardless of alignment

Tonally, Santy comes across a bit forced. Like they're trying to appear relaxed/uninformed.

Actual content of their posts isn't terrible? I liked the explanation for the genny read, although it isn't anything unfakable.

I'll probably need to see how Santy plays out this day phase before I come to an actual solid read on them tbh

Hello hello! don’t mind me, just a bit fashionably late

Also - 40 MINIMUM POSTS?!?
AMs not even playing this game but she’s still gonna kill me lmao
HIIIIIII SAMAC
Dubz you’re giving me Nam flashbacks. What happened to keeping Awoo and 😛 separate huh?!?
i'm doing my part! naked yeets dont count but they never said **** posting didnt count 😏
Season 3 Nbc GIF by The Office
notes on SAMAC(TM)
- no caps lock
- yeeting me

my general mood: whomp whomp
*sigh* i went to heavy on the gifs, didnt I
wait you mean last game WHERE I WAS WOLF READ EVEN THOUGH I WAS VILLAGE? ISNT THAT A GOOD THING SAMAC
last game 2: electric boogaloo
i'll get down to business soon ya know i just gotta get to 40
the vibes are good with spacecamp and gikkles thread entrances imho
i played a game since then i thought you were talking about the lucky 7 game
… you were the wolf I don’t think that really counts
Like I’m pretty sure I was gonna get yeeted the next day had you not killed me
pourquoi?
A lot of fluff, but a couple helpful posts mixed in. This is at least better than WildZoo & Clem, but still nothing great.

@mkg323 same as wildzoo and clem, can I get a top 3 town/scum?

Hello, pre-vet pals old and new! I'm excited about all the important education we're going to discuss. 🤓
(I was skimming old champs threads, and I believe Zenge's had the iconic copypasta. :wacky:)
Hmm, if not just NAI, my impression of Santy is lean scum. Please elaborate?
Um, I wanna say we did? Maybe last year's Champs practice here, or another game? I can't remember off hand.

(I've played Kirby Mafia, NeWW Girl, and dwungeons and dwagons here, if those ring any bells. Suppose it's also possible we've played on MU; pretty sure I've specced you there, at least?)
FWIW I'm also missing the Magikarp pfp 🙂
IDK about Achro, but mine isn't. I just felt like it was an overly explained excuse to immediately leave the thread. His next couple posts trend a little better, though (didn't actually leave thread, mildly pushed back on a townread of him), so I'd agree null is accurate at the moment.
It's good practice for champs, which may really kill some of us, LOL. :dead:

FWIW, I'm aiming for 2 posts an hour over 20 hours, partly to guarantee postmin, and party to try for a better mafia/life balance. (Achro and I were in a mash in March where I 100-posted multiple times over 12 hours, but, uh, that wasn't exactly the most healthy experience for me...)
Bad vibes? Why?

Also, I think votes are just bolded, like so:

Vote supershorty
supershorty is one of the mods. I just wanted an example, and we have a habit of voting for mods on my homesite, LOL.

#modsarethetruescum
See, the problem is I hyper focus too well and don't do the forgetting bit, whoops. So, I'm trying a new approach, and if it works maybe I won't retire after champs. :shrug:
I was hardly exaggerating; it was a lean scum on 2 posts, I'm not out here death tunneling or anything.

Comparing Santy's entrance to Zenges' (and Dubz' after), it just seemed a bit worse. Neither of them felt the need to immediately explain their (in)activity; Santy doing that at all felt overexplained, regardless of length. But I acknowledged while making the initial read that it could be NAI, so I didn't really walk anywhere to walk back from.
Out of curiosity, what is your homesite? And how long have you been playing mafia?
Why vote Shinichi?
Response to me was fairly good, rest of their posts could go either way. >rand town.

Damn I’m late
Moon town
Stranger scum
Town.
Dubz always town.
Stranger hi
And I’m caught up.
Boooo
It’s purple with a hint of gray.
My attendance on discord is spotty at best
That is such a healthy post goal
But you could be like me and have spurts where you hyper focus and then forget about it for hours
Ya say vote and bold it
Or surround it with ###
You do have to unvote tho

Like this
Vote Zenges
My favorite thing about here
It’s a higher min than our normal for champs practice
ALWAYS. TOWN.
Me forgetting about the post maximum just excited to be here.
I’ll slink away now.
Whoops.
Zenges knows what he did.
It was a village-y howl
Maybe I should join
Ah the world is right
Don’t get mod killed fam
HI
I need you to give off that big villager energy again, pls.
Unyeet Zenge
Yeet mkg
Oh okay. Will do
Wolfy behavior
I’m laughing my ass off
You don’t feel like last game
THE LAST GAME WHERE I HAD YOU IN THE TOP
VILLAGE SLOT MKG
Bitch you were my top village read
Santy only got above you for mechanics
(I feel like I need to qualify because it’s text the bitch is like “BITCH PLEASSSSEEE”
Not in a mean way
I realize you can’t hear my tone in text)
…. There was another game?
OH I WAS LEFT OFF THE TAG LIST
I HAD NO IDEA
You think she’s village this game?
I initially liked the energy of these posts - came across as a villager excited to solve.

The actual content of the posts is meh - lots of unexplained reads. I would like to see more of @samac's actual thought processes for their reads.

Always means sometimes
Can you give me some background on you and Achro’s playing history?
I like Gikkle’s analysis here. It feels genuine and towny.

I don’t necessarily agree about the performative nature of it, at this moment, but I like how the thought process has been walked through here.
Towny AF tbh
Eh. I rarely salt vote and it was a well deserved win.

If anyone should be salt voting anyone it’s Santy who should me salt voting Me/Dubz for not listening. smh
She already has. MKG is lock town. Calling it now.
Fr Fr No 🧢
You’re lock town. Pulling out my expired reading permit that I was supposed to turn in when I got my reading card.
**** posting doesn’t count.

If you’re posting in stars it means you’re either dead or the post isn’t game related.
Dubz pls that was classic comedy™️.
Hi Pixel, I’m Zenge
Just calling it like it see it
If you want to make a wolf case on yourself I’m all ears, but this is only exacerbating my town read on you tbh
Cooould be getting pocketed here? But I actually did like the very last post here. Doubling down on the TR after saying I distrust people who TR me is a fairly good look imo.



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There's a difference between me feeling you were sketchy in past games (which you ended up being town) and you feeling off/different this game. It's just a D1 early feeling and I'm far from committed, but I expect to see more actual solving or at least attempts at solving before D1 ends. And yes, you give out some town reads, but like I said I feel like that and the interactions with Achro are the only things you've done so far.
Eh, not going to tell you how to get a town read from me, I do usually come around to you just being a somewhat sketchy villager even if it doesn't always outwardly feel that way.
I always try and kill Dubz. It's not WW on SDN if I don't. Zenge was mostly a joke in regards to the cow, thought you'd get that. He feels decent right now tough. Moon is on my radar. So far I think D1 has a few things to look back at already.
Can you find which game? I don't recall that but if I'm wrong I'd obviously like to know.
Moon is more, which I find interesting since I don't know them. Seems like they were reading into a lot very early. Not sure where I stand with that but it's notable. Dubz feels like typical D1 Dubz. I admit I suck at reading her and don't usually get a feel for a while with her. I don't have a ton to go off of Zenge, but feels like typical Zenge. In his wolf game I felt he was off pretty quickly and I'm not getting that right now.

Other example, genny seems pretty aggressive early. Not sure how I feel about that but I think it's more of a positive than a negative there.
yeah stagg is just town here I think
 
Excuse me, Glinda the Good gave Dorothy the shoes to keep them from the Wicked Witch of the West, as she should. Also, Dorothy didn't kill the Wicked Witch of the East, the tornado did. (Now, did Dorothy kill the WW of the West? Yes. Frankly, I think I'd accept Dorothy as an SK before Glinda.)
Look calling myself Clem the Kind wouldn't excuse kicking people in the shins every time they say gif wrong, self styled good witches encouraging the looting and plundering of dead bodies is no system of footwear distribution!
 
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