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[Zenge142]

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The lack of a good iso feature

You wouldn’t last an hour in the asylum where they raised me.

 

[Achromatic]

You wouldn’t last an hour in the asylum where they raised me.

Okay first off I come from gamefaqs so don't cite Tay Tay at me. I thrived with no isos. No search. 500 post topics. For a long ass time.

It just sucks when you have played in the future ie mu

 

[Zenge142]

so don't cite Tay Tay at me

Spoiler

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Spoiler alert: Remember A Guy icon Shawn Marion of the NBA was not in them

I didn't know who Shawn Marion was lol I don't watch basketball

To be fair to the forum, Threadloom ceasing to exist was a decision by that software company, not SDN punishing us for playing werewolf lol

I don't blame SDN, but I am very sad we don't have something better.

Are you asking why are you in a PoE ?
So you expect for players to be townreading you with the content you have on thread so far?

I'm asking why I am specifically in Dubz's PoE. I don't recall her mentioning me at all other than saying I was neutral/null or something previously so I'm curious why I have moved into PoE, unless it was just due to lack of villageyness.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

But were you aware at EoD that it eas tied between MKG and Shinichi and froze because you were weak to AtE, or you just didnt notice the tie? Also, what AtE?

I am pretty sure I saw a tally pop up after I had posted the Achrom stuff. Frankly unless I am super duper present and up to date with thread at EOD I don't hyperfocus on vote counts at this point in time, so I hadn't realize Shinichi had accrued that many votes.
I personally didn't want to vote for mkg due to her response to samac's sus. I just felt bad when she was discussing the comparison to game before last where she had more content.

Also, is this read real psv?

Imagine myself asking with a goblin face going like this popping out of the trenchcoat

Yeah, I still think you two are opposite affs. I feel like Achrom is trying to buddy you and didn't buy his claim about reaction testing. Now he's asking how he can help you find him? Mm, I see it as him trying to get you to not vote for him.
I can't attest to what he's saying about the mashes and your previous games together but idk how much stock I'm willing to put in that sort of meta anyhow.

I do actually have an idea for a solve that I’ve been ruminating on.

I don’t want to type it all out right now, as I’m at work, and there’s a lot I want to lay out.

I'm very excited for this

 

[samac]

Are you here?

I was not

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Frankly I remember very little about Gikkle's D1 content. I do remember samac suspecting him because I responded to her post by rhyming Gikkle with pickle.
I should go back and review his stuff but uh. No promises tbh

 

[potentialsheltervet]

WOW
This time 'twas I who summoned samac!

 

[samac]

Can someone please explain why Samac is towncore to me? I don't see this at all, but wonder if I’m just tunneling at this point.

Because I exude the BTE, big town energy

But tbh your tunnel makes me feel better because you always do this as town to me.
Doesn’t count in RvB when logic dictated I was the convert.

 

[samac]

WOW
This time 'twas I who summoned samac!

I WAS SUMMONED?!

I’m 2 pages behind

 

[samac]

I think we're fundamentally talking on different wavelengths here lol

I'm really evaluating it through a macro, holistic, vibes of the slot approach, gikkle having micro stuff that feels fine or good isn't super relevant to the read because the whole picture feels really scummy to me. Like...it's not really an effort thing, having a few bangers (which I'll take your word for tbh, I haven't seen any in his posts, but ymmv) doesn't negate that as a whole it's just...a lot of bleh. Like it just feels like they're saying stuff that they think people will read and go "yes, that's smart, sure, you can be town" rather than saying things because they actually have conviction in them

Again I usually really try to avoid talking in these terms because it's not such a confident read that I'm 100% sure I'm not insulting their town game, which If that's the case I'm sorry gikkle the problem is me not you

Why does this Clem feel good and I want to TR him
This makes me twitchy

 

[samac]

Of that list Achro.

I think Stagg is just a villager tbh.

I’m still holding out hope for a village Gikkle but I definitely need to see some more content and solving.

Yeah, I don’t disagree. I’d like to see Marmot pop on.

And while I can find a town rationale for Shinichi’s actions enough for me to unvote and consider looking elsewhere, it’s by no means clearing. They’re lack of presence this cycle is particularly difficult to manage.

I think PSV is village though, but with the footnote that she’s an exceptionally good wolf and I’ve been fooled before. -Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice… we don’t get fooled again.

Talk to me about stagg

 

[samac]

Also, on this note. How good is the track record of dubz and samac reading Stagg?

A big part in how I perceive stagg comes from the thought that both of them seem to have soulvibed in that this is stagg wolfmeta

I’ve only played with wolf stagg once I think in stardew 2 and I died before I could be on his vote, I tunneled a different wolf for 2 days.
I’ve found village stagg more often in recent years than historically.
I lead his takedown and he was village in my 5th game ever.
So eh

 

[samac]

I mean… I’m having a hard time imagining Moon isn’t the doctor they’re claiming to be.

I agree.

 

[samac]

If moon were scum do you think they wouldnt claim? Or claim something different?

There not being a cc is a good point. But also them not being dead a bad point.

I think Doctor is 6 of the 10 setups. So 40% that there is no doctor.

I think smart thing is keeping them around and see how it resolves later, but it isnt clearing

There’s a reason I was shouting for the Motion Detector. No I shall not explain further.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I WAS SUMMONED?!

I’m 2 pages behind

I didn't exactly summon you but I mentioned your name and you surfaced, so... more of a Bloody Mary? Beetlejuice?

 

[samac]

WOW
This time 'twas I who summoned samac!

Wait where did you summon me
I see no summons!

 

[samac]

I’m caught up.
Still okay with my vote on gikkle.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Oh and
Vote Achrom
I'm... hm... About 72% confident he's scum and also I want to be sure I'm hitting post minimum

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Frankly I remember very little about Gikkle's D1 content. I do remember samac suspecting him because I responded to her post by rhyming Gikkle with pickle.

@samac

 

[potentialsheltervet]

iirc, Gikkle has only made a few posts today and Shinichi hasn't been here at all? Is that right?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Or maybe it's vice versa...?

 

[samac]

I don’t want to see more patients guys.
I only have 4 more Thursdays of direct outpatient care before residency is over.

But I hate it so much
There’s a patient in the lobby with a 9:30 appointment and I don’t want to get her a minute early
😭

 

[samac]

iirc, Gikkle has only made a few posts today and Shinichi hasn't been here at all? Is that right?

Gikkle has made a few posts
Particularly the one about Shinichi is when my hackles got raised

 

[Santygrass]

Yeah, I still think you two are opposite affs. I feel like Achrom is trying to buddy you and didn't buy his claim about reaction testing. Now he's asking how he can help you find him? Mm, I see it as him trying to get you to not vote for him.
I can't attest to what he's saying about the mashes and your previous games together but idk how much stock I'm willing to put in that sort of meta anyhow.

Okay, but thats only the V!Santy and W!Achro in the difference check.
If Achro is a villager, why I am wolfy?

 

[samac]

I don’t want to see more patients guys.
I only have 4 more Thursdays of direct outpatient care before residency is over.

But I hate it so much
There’s a patient in the lobby with a 9:30 appointment and I don’t want to get her a minute early
😭

This patient told me it’s a bad day because she’s going to lose me and now I feel bad for my dread
😢

 

[Santygrass]

Ah, yes. Thoughts on Clem posts from this day @Achromatic ?

Im getting good vibes from them but also worth having a sanity check

 

[Santygrass]

Also for the record.

If there is a Jailkeeper and they want to jailkeep me this night, green light from my part.

Will put my best lingerie so we have a fun night

 

[Santygrass]

@Achromatic also, Dubz is WildZoo. I think no one answered that question wowee

 

[marmot`]

Hi hello, I have a little bit of time this morning, can someone give me some homework pls?

I've never played mafia on this site, and haven't played mafia in a year. So even though mayo asked me to do her proud, I probably won't (but I will try pls)

 

[Santygrass]

I'M THE TOWN DOCTOR

Hi Marmot !!

The post quoted above is 1 hour before day close yesterday and probably a good spot to read to gather some reads until day close.

Rn my PoE so good slots to look at are Achro-Stagg-Gikkle

 

[marmot`]

Help, how do I ISO?

 

[Santygrass]

Hi Marmot !!

The post quoted above is 1 hour before day close yesterday and probably a good spot to read to gather some reads until day close.

Rn my PoE so good slots to look at are Achro-Stagg-Gikkle

Maybe PoE is not the correct term since there are slots like psv/you/shinichi that are also PoE. But not thinking of yeeting them today atm and not much info to gather a good read

 

[genny]

Yeah, I still think you two are opposite affs. I feel like Achrom is trying to buddy you and didn't buy his claim about reaction testing. Now he's asking how he can help you find him? Mm, I see it as him trying to get you to not vote for him.

So the one thing that’s been bothering me about achro is the repeated bestowing of village reads on people who sus him, and trying to normalize that as something that happens with his village play, BUT. I gave him a very early TR with basically no basis and haven’t been called out on that. So I’m mildly kerfluffed.

 

[genny]

Help, how do I ISO?

Search at top left, confine it to this thread, put player name in the bottom of the search form. It is not pretty

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Okay, but thats only the V!Santy and W!Achro in the difference check.
If Achro is a villager, why I am wolfy?

I made this post when Achrom was saying you going after him indicated you were a wolf. But I'm fairly confident he is a wolf.
I suppose there's a world in which you're both villagers (pretty sure you aren't scum) and I'm just wrong. But...

Hi hello, I have a little bit of time this morning, can someone give me some homework pls?

I've never played mafia on this site, and haven't played mafia in a year. So even though mayo asked me to do her proud, I probably won't (but I will try pls)

I could've sworn you have played on this site?

 

[Santygrass]

They got rid of the good one but the search in the top right corner you can change to this thread and put the user name in the “by” box.

Spoiler

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I ISO'd samac to steal her explanation of how to ISO heh heh heh

 

[Stagg737]

Didn't you very firmly claim samac as scum yesterday? I don't get what you mean when you mention the champs rep armor affecting your read

She was and still is in my PoE. That post is mostly talking about how I was reading her in the recent fighting/melee game. I’m not sure if she’s approaching things differently under the assumption she wouldn’t get NK’d early as one of our reps for champs (which this is practice for…) and I’m reading her differently due to that or if she’s actually scummy. Hence why I later asked people to tell me why they’re town reading her.

It is absolutely bafflingly to me that you have Samac and Dubz in here for "red flags". Can you be more specific?

Yea, I don’t see real game solving and I see them deeply tunneling me with questionable or no basis without looking at much more likely options imo.

Dubz is tunneling me and admitted her worldview is built around me being scum. Didn’t give other reads until I asked and then gave naked reads that I question the legitimacy of. I should probably ask them more about it today…

Samac has also been tunneling me and her voting actions are weird if she’s town. Her and Dubz were on me D1 and she didn’t come off me until the wagon on MKG was going which I started. Seems like a move that could be pairing with Shini. She also started today voting for me again and them quickly jumped onto Gikkle, but only after I questioned/pointed out that Gikkles vote yesterday and and statement today contradict each other. I’m basically the only person sussing her, and to me it feels like her pushing me is more about making thread state easier for her to control/coast than actually thinking I’m a wolf.

 

[genny]

Search at top left, confine it to this thread, put player name in the bottom of the search form. It is not pretty

Top right. I swear I can drive.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Will put my best lingerie so we have a fun night

What about the banana suit?

 

[marmot`]

Hi Marmot !!

The post quoted above is 1 hour before day close yesterday and probably a good spot to read to gather some reads until day close.

Rn my PoE so good slots to look at are Achro-Stagg-Gikkle

I've never seen wolf-santy but from reading this page I feel like I can trust you rn, so I'm willing to sheep this, but I'll press a little bit.

I know nothing about Stagg and Gikkle, but gather from this page that gikkle has been pretty low content. Sure fine, reasonable enough for a POE. Why the other two?

 

[Santygrass]

I made this post when Achrom was saying you going after him indicated you were a wolf. But I'm fairly confident he is a wolf.
I suppose there's a world in which you're both villagers (pretty sure you aren't scum) and I'm just wrong. But...

You believen Achro is a wolf and there being a difference check between me/Achro are two very different statements.

Think you just used the term diff check wrong here

 

[marmot`]

She was and still is in my PoE. That post is mostly talking about how I was reading her in the recent fighting/melee game. I’m not sure if she’s approaching things differently under the assumption she wouldn’t get NK’d early as one of our reps for champs (which this is practice for…) and I’m reading her differently due to that or if she’s actually scummy. Hence why I later asked people to tell me why they’re town reading her.


Yea, I don’t see real game solving and I see them deeply tunneling me with questionable or no basis without looking at much more likely options imo.

Dubz is tunneling me and admitted her worldview is built around me being scum. Didn’t give other reads until I asked and then gave naked reads that I question the legitimacy of. I should probably ask them more about it today…

Samac has also been tunneling me and her voting actions are weird if she’s town. Her and Dubz were on me D1 and she didn’t come off me until the wagon on MKG was going which I started. Seems like a move that could be pairing with Shini. She also started today voting for me again and them quickly jumped onto Gikkle, but only after I questioned/pointed out that Gikkles vote yesterday and and statement today contradict each other. I’m basically the only person sussing her, and to me it feels like her pushing me is more about making thread state easier for her to control/coast than actually thinking I’m a wolf.

Are you often seen as wolfy? It sounds like multiple players see you as wolf rn.

 

[marmot`]

I made this post when Achrom was saying you going after him indicated you were a wolf. But I'm fairly confident he is a wolf.
I suppose there's a world in which you're both villagers (pretty sure you aren't scum) and I'm just wrong. But...

I could've sworn you have played on this site?

No, I've watched a couple games and I did play in the CDN anon game on MU last year, but I don't think I've actually played one on this site.

What's your read of Santy independent of Achro?

 

[Santygrass]

I know nothing about Stagg and Gikkle, but gather from this page that gikkle has been pretty low content. Sure fine, reasonable enough for a POE. Why the other two?

Gikkle contesnt has been low D2, but not D1 . The nk was one of the few slots that wasnt tring them and had a bit of suspicion on them

Achro is just that the reaction to moon claim + approach to the game doesnt resonate as the town!achro that I love and waiting to see that. Approach being too narrow maybe is the right word.

Stagg is mostly seeing playing him different to what I expect (usually they have takes that I grind my teeth at because we approach the game differently) but that not happening is on my mind. And also two other players I townread were sussing him so its also partly sheeping

 

[Achromatic]

Psv you have barely interacted with me. If you are town you really need to change your methods of solving if you are fairly confident I am a wolf lol

 

[Achromatic]

Also santy tbh I am growing a little tired of you thinking me being narrow is alignment indicative. Have you ever seen me wolf? I am starting to think no because this glaring of a hole doesn't exist tbh and it's just site thing. Like. What about my reaction to moon claiming doc was problematic for you? I can cite several town games where I push pr early only to have to eat crow

 

[marmot`]

Gikkle contesnt has been low D2, but not D1 . The nk was one of the few slots that wasnt tring them and had a bit of suspicion on them

Achro is just that the reaction to moon claim + approach to the game doesnt resonate as the town!achro that I love and waiting to see that. Approach being too narrow maybe is the right word.

Stagg is mostly seeing playing him different to what I expect (usually they have takes that I grind my teeth at because we approach the game differently) but that not happening is on my mind. And also two other players I townread were sussing him so its also partly sheeping

I've watched two Achro games in my life. One was Champs semis last year when v!Achro pushed extremely hard for a town chop (I honestly forget who the player was, but it was town) in the midgame, and the other was the Syndicate game where sabi/mac/esooa were wolves, and v!achro would not let anyone chop sabi.

I feel like being stubborn in their worldview is common for Achro based on these experience, is this different? I'm mainly asking because dunno when/if I'll have time to read it all.

 

[marmot`]

Achro, is santy town?

 

[Achromatic]

I've watched two Achro games in my life. One was Champs semis last year when v!Achro pushed extremely hard for a town chop (I honestly forget who the player was, but it was town) in the midgame, and the other was the Syndicate game where sabi/mac/esooa were wolves, and v!achro would not let anyone chop sabi.

I feel like being stubborn in their worldview is common for Achro based on these experience, is this different? I'm mainly asking because dunno when/if I'll have time to read it all.

Wow wow wow. Hold on.

I literally murdered scum mac in that second game and ate the n2 kill. You're kind of breaking my balls with the description here.

Also the champs game was two years ago.