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MBBS and MD?

Discussion in 'General International Discussion' started by leorl, Aug 6, 2001.

  1. leorl

    leorl Physician Moderator Emeritus Lifetime Donor Classifieds Approved 10+ Year Member

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    Hi,

    How does an australian MD differ from a US MD? is it more research based? Like, if I go to say...Flinders for their graduate medical entry program, I'll receive an MBBS, which is the equivalent of a US MD. But I was looking at their list of courses, and they also award an MD of Medicine (after the bachelors).

    Thanks, just getting a little confused!
     
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  3. seth2000

    seth2000 Junior Member 7+ Year Member

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    leorl,
    The MBBS of commonwealth countries (Australia, South Africa, India, UK, etc.) is the equivalent of the American MD degree. As you said, the MBBS is a bachelors degree in medicine and surgery. The MD degree that commonwealth countries offer is a graduate medical degree, and it offers an opportunity to specialize (it is above and beyond the scope of the American MD degree---it is similar to residency specialization in the USA). Even though some Australian schools have switched to graduate medical entry, they still award the MBBS degree (even though it is no longer a bachelors) because the title "MBBS" is engrained in the minds of Australians to be synonymous with doctor. It doesn't matter anyway because in the US, it can be written as "MD" so your patients don't get confused. Hope this helps clarify your question.
    -seth
     
  4. Winged Scapula

    Winged Scapula Cougariffic! Staff Member Administrator Physician Faculty Lifetime Donor Classifieds Approved 15+ Year Member

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    Seth2000 is correct. The MD degree in Australia and the UK is more akin to the US PhD - it is a research, dissertation based degree which is not awarded until you have been out practicing in your field for at least 5 years and have published meritorious research in your field.

    Flinders does offer an MD, but it is not available to those without the MBBS (or equivalent) and the corresponding practice and research.

    Hope this helps.
     
  5. Sita

    Sita Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Yeah, an MD in the UK is awarded after you've got your MBBS, through postgraduate study.

    I think it's when you begin to specialise in a particular field (become an SpR (Specialist Registrar)) but i'm not sure. (i'm concentrating on getting into an undergraduate course first, at the mo!!) :D
     
  6. an MD in the british system, is equivalent to a resident in Internal medicine, here...not quite phd..
     
  7. Devdas

    Devdas Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    In Britain, after you finish your undergraduate medicine they give you a degree M.B.,B.Ch.,(Bachelor of Medicine and Surgery).This is equivalent to American MD and also Some Asian countries MBBS.

    British equivalent of Postgraduate American degrees like AB(IM),AB (Surgery) etc are the FRCS(Fellow of Royal college of Surgeons),FRCP (Fellow...RC of Physicians)etc.Even the Irish colleges follow the same.They call as FRCPI and FRCSI.(fellow of Royal college of Ireland.

    Those "Royal" degrees bring glamour to FMGs from Asia who go back to their countries after British postgraduation. :D
     
  8. Sita

    Sita Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    In the UK some universities award a MBChB whilst some award a MBBS. (not all uni's award the MBChB).
     
  9. Devdas

    Devdas Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Sita,

    You are RIGHT!
    That's how Indians knew to name their medical degree.Remember, Indians were ruled by British some fifty years ago.(Thanks for their ruling..otherwise Indians would be like Russians not knowing English) :rolleyes:
     
  10. Sita

    Sita Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    No comment.....I'm a British Indian!! :D
     

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