MCAT 17M to High 20s and post bach

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V4viet

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Hi guys, I"ve been reading a lot of the comments you guys give to each other and I must say I'm impressed at how much you guys are willing to help out each other when you don't even know each other. Having said that, I need help. I have a 17M on the MCAT. Overal GPA of 3.36 and a Science GPA of 3.15 , Nonscience of 3.68 and I'm a Biology Major. I was wondering with those qualifications do you know if there's a post bach either for MD or DO that would accept me. My mcat score is a little low. I mean DO post bach would be nice too. Any post bach that guaranteed or give you a good chance of being accepted into medical school without taking the mcat again would be great.

Also is it possible to bring a 17M to a high 20s or at least get a 30? Does anyone know of anyone who did this and if so can you give me some tips? Anything would help.
 
Definitely retake the MCAT with a prep course. A lot of post-bacs have a minimum GPA. The lowest I've seen is 23. A post-bac seems like it would take care of you GPA wise.
 
Although your science GPA is in the 3.0 range, it will need to be improved. Science majors should have higher science GPA's. Now if you were a non-science major, adcoms may be nicer if you were +/- 0.1-0.2 from the average science GPA that science majors get.

An MCAT score of 17 will probably not get you into anywhere, and especially if combined with your science GPA. At the very least, you better have a good reason for getting a low GPA such as working to support your family. However that doesn't explain the MCAT score too well, and stating personal challenges still require some proof of improvement (ie: A's during post-bacc or high MCAT score)

As stated in previous threads, if you studied for the MCAT, and got a 17, then based on statistics, most people will only improve by 1-3 points taking it the second time. Althougn not impossible to improve by larger orders of magnitude, its pretty rare. The national average for those that got into med school is about a 28 the last time I checked, so you will need to improve by at least 11 points to meet the mean. On top of that you will need to have good section scores. So still pretty crappy if you get a 6 on VR, and the remainder being great science section scores. Of course, meeting the "average" doesn't guarantee much either since there are many that score higher than the mean.

Post-bacc programs that have linkage to some med school often times are very competative to get into, and require a good MCAT score anyway. Scripps and Mills college in CA link to a few MD schools. However both require you to take the MCAT again as part of their program, and for Scripps, taking the MCAT already disqualifies you from even applying into the program. Most official post-bacc programs also require some MCAT score of 8 per section. Reason being, they want people that are likely to improve their MCAT score based on the reason I stated in the last paragraph.

Although I am not trying to discourage you, however an MCAT score of 17, and a low science GPA will hurt you greatly when applying. I understand that getting in through whatever means possible (such as a post-bacc program) sounds good, but you will need to ask yourself. Based on your science GPA, and MCAT score, will you succeed when taking exponentially harder science classes in med school, and passing the USMLE step 1, which tests all you learned as an MSI and II.

If you do not have the academic foundation to do well on the MCAT, or in post-bacc courses, then the adcoms will have a hard time dealing with your academic capabilities for your MSI and II years. Traditionally, those with low GPA's showed they had a good understanding of basic sciences (and verbal skills) by destroying the MCAT. I have seen people with 3.2-3.3's get in because they got 35+ on their MCAT. At the University of California, they treat MCAT and GPA EQUALLY, therefore being deficient in one will hurt you, let alone being deficient in both.
 
V4viet said:
Hi guys, I"ve been reading a lot of the comments you guys give to each other and I must say I'm impressed at how much you guys are willing to help out each other when you don't even know each other. Having said that, I need help. I have a 17M on the MCAT. Overal GPA of 3.36 and a Science GPA of 3.15 , Nonscience of 3.68 and I'm a Biology Major. I was wondering with those qualifications do you know if there's a post bach either for MD or DO that would accept me. My mcat score is a little low. I mean DO post bach would be nice too. Any post bach that guaranteed or give you a good chance of being accepted into medical school without taking the mcat again would be great.

Also is it possible to bring a 17M to a high 20s or at least get a 30? Does anyone know of anyone who did this and if so can you give me some tips? Anything would help.

How were you doing on the diags? Your first priiority should be to retake the MCAT. And as for the GPA, have you graduated or are still in school? If you are still in school, take some upper-level science classes to show them you can hadles the classes. Or you can do a post-bacc or masters to show your ability. And as for post bac guaranteeing anything...to my knowledge there's no official evidence to support it. The general concensus however seems to be that a strong showing in a post-bac program can help your chances significantly. I think RFU had some connection with the medical school but that went out the window this year. You can call up individual school where you are interested in and ask about any connection or better yet, browse their web page.
 
My advice is for to study for the MCAT and see how much you raise it. If it is not raised a lot, bring your GPA up and apply Carib. It would take you to long to bring the GPA and MCAT into acceptable range for either DO or MD schools.
 
V4viet said:
Hi guys, I"ve been reading a lot of the comments you guys give to each other and I must say I'm impressed at how much you guys are willing to help out each other when you don't even know each other. Having said that, I need help. I have a 17M on the MCAT. Overal GPA of 3.36 and a Science GPA of 3.15 , Nonscience of 3.68 and I'm a Biology Major. I was wondering with those qualifications do you know if there's a post bach either for MD or DO that would accept me. My mcat score is a little low. I mean DO post bach would be nice too. Any post bach that guaranteed or give you a good chance of being accepted into medical school without taking the mcat again would be great.

Also is it possible to bring a 17M to a high 20s or at least get a 30? Does anyone know of anyone who did this and if so can you give me some tips? Anything would help.

Nova Southeastern University Master of Biomedical Science program. Its pretty rough, but you take five science courses each semester with the 1st year medical class. If you pass...your basically guaranteed a spot in the following years class. I too scored a dreaded 17N, and I am proud to say that I'll be a M1 this coming August. IT IS POSSIBLE!!! 🙂

http://medsciences.nova.edu/aboutbs.html
 
V4viet said:
Hi guys, I"ve been reading a lot of the comments you guys give to each other and I must say I'm impressed at how much you guys are willing to help out each other when you don't even know each other. Having said that, I need help. I have a 17M on the MCAT. Overal GPA of 3.36 and a Science GPA of 3.15 , Nonscience of 3.68 and I'm a Biology Major. I was wondering with those qualifications do you know if there's a post bach either for MD or DO that would accept me. My mcat score is a little low. I mean DO post bach would be nice too. Any post bach that guaranteed or give you a good chance of being accepted into medical school without taking the mcat again would be great.

Also is it possible to bring a 17M to a high 20s or at least get a 30? Does anyone know of anyone who did this and if so can you give me some tips? Anything would help.



Dont be discouraged with you 17M. ON the first day of an MCAT prep course you take a real MCAT without any preparation just to see where you stand. MOST people get around your score. Mine was 19 and then by then end of the course was 28. DONT WORRY. Just take a prep course....twice...if you have to. Keep on taking test after test. Take a test on a friday or a saturday and then on Sunday go over all the answers and know why each answer is wrong and know why the right one is right. If you do this everyweekend you should be fine. I would also suggest taking practice tests by different companies. Take a few Kaplan, Princetown Review etc.
 
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