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There are a few of these in the other sub forums, but always wished there was one here.

The mcat breeds stress, and this is a place that will be reserved to let off a little steam and give each other a second wind from stress directly associated with mcat prep.

Keep it civil. Looking forward to posting in this little e-stress ball over the course of the next few months. 👍
 
30 pages on carbohydrates in TBR Orgo today. Are you effin' kidding me? I'll be referring to TPRH for this one. I'm sorry but that's just excessive and ain't nobody got time for that.
 
30 pages on carbohydrates in TBR Orgo today. Are you effin' kidding me? I'll be referring to TPRH for this one. I'm sorry but that's just excessive and ain't nobody got time for that.


Haha. I feel ya man


Today was 50 pages of TBR Carbonyls and Alcohols


Not including the 25 questions and review after!
 
anyone know how to conquer the bio section now with all the experiment passages?

i dont know how to not get freaked out when i read about ei332RT2A changing the transcription rate of R5S20ZTPA ? wtf??

LMAO! I had the same issue w/ molecular genetics problems but I'm doing way better now. I used to freak out and bomb. I haven't developed any specific strategies but I bought the idea that the MCAT employs the strategy of creating an illusion of unfamiliarity. This understanding prevents me from freaking when I run into unfamiliar words, phrases, graphs or experiments.
 
LMAO! I had the same issue w/ molecular genetics problems but I'm doing way better now. I used to freak out and bomb. I haven't developed any specific strategies but I bought the idea that the MCAT employs the strategy of creating an illusion of unfamiliarity. This understanding prevents me from freaking when I run into unfamiliar words, phrases, graphs or experiments.

You make it sound so simple lol
 
What did you come up with?

Being a little nervous enhances physical and mental alertness but being too nervous elicits a physiological stress response that can severely limit one's cognitive abilities as your body prep for danger. After the chemicals are release, it's nearly impossible to control this autonomic response. It is this physiological response test designers try to exploit by creating illusions of unfamiliarity. You run into a passage and the experiment, phrases or graphs appear so weird, it's almost impossible to focus.

I have found that for me, the molecular genetics passages in Biology were the ones most likely to cause me to become frustrated or flustered. The names of the proteins are ridiculous, the genetic material from which they are translated carries names that are totally foreign, and the graphical representations of the data are even more bizarre. Consider the following medium difficulty paragraph adapted from an article in Nature:

"Nef-protein of HIV-*1 and the cellular protein GAPR-*1 interact with the same domain of the beclin-*1 protein to inhibit the degradative process of autophagy. GAPR-*1 does so by sequestering beclin-*1 in the cellular compartment known as the Golgi complex. A recent study reported that a peptide derived from the same domain of beclin-*1 interacts with GAPR-*1. This results in the release of beclin-*1, allowing it to mediate the formation of autophagosomes, which engulf intracellular pathogens and harmful proteins to transport them to the lysosomal compartment for degradation."

If you are thinking like a test designer, the unfamiliar terms shouldn't intimidate you, but excite you about possible questions questions that can be derived from them. After reading this, without any previous knowledge, you should know the function of all the proteins mentioned along with the meaning of autophagy and the contextual definition of sequestering. You should also be anticipating questions about retro-viruses, packaging, shipping, and garbage collection and processing within a cell. Additionally questions about hypotheses, experimental designs or findings challenging or supporting the results reported are extremely likely. Finally, peptides....synthesis, destination, folding, bonding and hybridization, most basic region, and amount of bonds in a number of amino acid peptide.

What I've found is that preparation for the MCAT must be well apportioned to include strategic analysis and planning, practice and content review, the latter of which often gets way too much time. Evaluating and analyzing journal articles and completing lots of practice passages, I have developed an acquaintance with unfamiliar phrasing and terms and they don't phase me anymore; now I'm just curious. Everything on the MCAT must be from within the realms of what's outlined by the AAMC. Therefore, a procedure may be unfamiliar but the concepts by which the processes are characterized are ones you know well from your content review.

I dissect a paragraph like this from an article everyday (takes 15 minutes in the morning) and that's a major part of my strategic analysis. The article generally covers a topic from one of the four chapters I'm covering that week.

Hope this helps!
 
Being a little nervous enhances physical and mental alertness but being too nervous elicits a physiological stress response that can severely limit one's cognitive abilities as your body prep for danger. After the chemicals are release, it's nearly impossible to control this autonomic response. It is this physiological response test designers try to exploit by creating illusions of unfamiliarity. You run into a passage and the experiment, phrases or graphs appear so weird, it's almost impossible to focus.

I have found that for me, the molecular genetics passages in Biology were the ones most likely to cause me to become frustrated or flustered. The names of the proteins are ridiculous, the genetic material from which they are translated carries names that are totally foreign, and the graphical representations of the data are even more bizarre. Consider the following medium difficulty paragraph adapted from an article in Nature:

"Nef-protein of HIV-*1 and the cellular protein GAPR-*1 interact with the same domain of the beclin-*1 protein to inhibit the degradative process of autophagy. GAPR-*1 does so by sequestering beclin-*1 in the cellular compartment known as the Golgi complex. A recent study reported that a peptide derived from the same domain of beclin-*1 interacts with GAPR-*1. This results in the release of beclin-*1, allowing it to mediate the formation of autophagosomes, which engulf intracellular pathogens and harmful proteins to transport them to the lysosomal compartment for degradation."

If you are thinking like a test designer, the unfamiliar terms shouldn't intimidate you, but excite you about possible questions questions that can be derived from them. After reading this, without any previous knowledge, you should know the function of all the proteins mentioned along with the meaning of autophagy and the contextual definition of sequestering. You should also be anticipating questions about retro-viruses, packaging, shipping, and garbage collection and processing within a cell. Additionally questions about hypotheses, experimental designs or findings challenging or supporting the results reported are extremely likely. Finally, peptides....synthesis, destination, folding, bonding and hybridization, most basic region, and amount of bonds in a number of amino acid peptide.

What I've found is that preparation for the MCAT must be well apportioned to include strategic analysis and planning, practice and content review, the latter of which often gets way too much time. Evaluating and analyzing journal articles and completing lots of practice passages, I have developed an acquaintance with unfamiliar phrasing and terms and they don't phase me anymore; now I'm just curious. Everything on the MCAT must be from within the realms of what's outlined by the AAMC. Therefore, a procedure may be unfamiliar but the concepts by which the processes are characterized are ones you know well from your content review.

I dissect a paragraph like this from an article everyday (takes 15 minutes in the morning) and that's a major part of my strategic analysis. The article generally covers a topic from one of the four chapters I'm covering that week.

Hope this helps!

Where are you getting these articles?
 
30 pages on carbohydrates in TBR Orgo today. Are you effin' kidding me? I'll be referring to TPRH for this one. I'm sorry but that's just excessive and ain't nobody got time for that.

And at then I was like, 'F it all! TPR for content."

Best decision of my (MCAT) life.
 
Being a little nervous enhances physical and mental alertness but being too nervous elicits a physiological stress response that can severely limit one's cognitive abilities as your body prep for danger. After the chemicals are release, it's nearly impossible to control this autonomic response. It is this physiological response test designers try to exploit by creating illusions of unfamiliarity. You run into a passage and the experiment, phrases or graphs appear so weird, it's almost impossible to focus.

I have found that for me, the molecular genetics passages in Biology were the ones most likely to cause me to become frustrated or flustered. The names of the proteins are ridiculous, the genetic material from which they are translated carries names that are totally foreign, and the graphical representations of the data are even more bizarre. Consider the following medium difficulty paragraph adapted from an article in Nature:

"Nef-protein of HIV-*1 and the cellular protein GAPR-*1 interact with the same domain of the beclin-*1 protein to inhibit the degradative process of autophagy. GAPR-*1 does so by sequestering beclin-*1 in the cellular compartment known as the Golgi complex. A recent study reported that a peptide derived from the same domain of beclin-*1 interacts with GAPR-*1. This results in the release of beclin-*1, allowing it to mediate the formation of autophagosomes, which engulf intracellular pathogens and harmful proteins to transport them to the lysosomal compartment for degradation."

If you are thinking like a test designer, the unfamiliar terms shouldn't intimidate you, but excite you about possible questions questions that can be derived from them. After reading this, without any previous knowledge, you should know the function of all the proteins mentioned along with the meaning of autophagy and the contextual definition of sequestering. You should also be anticipating questions about retro-viruses, packaging, shipping, and garbage collection and processing within a cell. Additionally questions about hypotheses, experimental designs or findings challenging or supporting the results reported are extremely likely. Finally, peptides....synthesis, destination, folding, bonding and hybridization, most basic region, and amount of bonds in a number of amino acid peptide.

What I've found is that preparation for the MCAT must be well apportioned to include strategic analysis and planning, practice and content review, the latter of which often gets way too much time. Evaluating and analyzing journal articles and completing lots of practice passages, I have developed an acquaintance with unfamiliar phrasing and terms and they don't phase me anymore; now I'm just curious. Everything on the MCAT must be from within the realms of what's outlined by the AAMC. Therefore, a procedure may be unfamiliar but the concepts by which the processes are characterized are ones you know well from your content review.

I dissect a paragraph like this from an article everyday (takes 15 minutes in the morning) and that's a major part of my strategic analysis. The article generally covers a topic from one of the four chapters I'm covering that week.

Hope this helps!

I totally agree with you dude! That mental thing messes me up every time. Whenever I read passages that I feel weak on, I swear I feel less confident and that reflects on my inability to make logical decisions. Especially with bio, and I'm good at bio. I think 6 weeks will be enough time to work on the confidence thing. More practice problems, more confidence!
 
Getting tired of riding the psychological waves.

Some days, I know I can hit a 35. Other days I wonder if I can break a 30.

Had a solid 6 hour study day today, and picked up the momentum I lost last week. Going to keep this going. Trying to stay positive, and know my abilities. Anyone else have this problem?
 
Getting tired of riding the psychological waves.

Some days, I know I can hit a 35. Other days I wonder if I can break a 30.

Had a solid 6 hour study day today, and picked up the momentum I lost last week. Going to keep this going. Trying to stay positive, and know my abilities. Anyone else have this problem?

The very same! My biggest battle is VR, of course. That and Physics get me down all the time. Maybe a 35 is in our future? I would hate to give up hope...
 
Getting tired of riding the psychological waves.

Some days, I know I can hit a 35. Other days I wonder if I can break a 30.

Had a solid 6 hour study day today, and picked up the momentum I lost last week. Going to keep this going. Trying to stay positive, and know my abilities. Anyone else have this problem?

Yes. Good days and bad days. I made the decision a couple weeks ago to just stop allowing it to bother me. As soon as I did that my scores started being more consistent. Last week I scored as equivalent of 13's on all my practice passage sets. This week I could score 7's, but it doesn't matter. I'm learning the material, keeping to the schedule and doing all I can humanly do. Fate will take over the rest.

I think MCAT is like training for an endurance event (I'm a cyclist and used to race heavily). You train for months and months and at a certain point, and you never when, you peak. The trick is timing the peak right before an event and/or adjusting your training in order to ride that peak all the way into race day.

One thing I will say that has helped my consistency is waiting until the next day to test myself on the content review. I was reviewing and then testing on the same material that same day and not doing well. As soon as I started giving myself a night to sleep on the material, my scores have gone up. I don't know about you guys but my brain is wrecked after reading some of those lengthy BR chapters and I just don't think it's good timing to put it to the test. It would be like doing 4 hours of interval training the day of a race.
 
Soooo I just started sn2ed's schedule, but here's my problem. If I time the passages I'm doing awful but if I take my time I'm doing great. Should I keep walking before I run so to speak? When do you do every passage timed? I literally started this week.

I was running into the same thing and here's what I've done so far to fix it, and it seems to be helping. Instead of doing my practice sections on paper, I made an excel workbook for each of the four subjects. Inside each workbook are two sheets for each section. One is for the answers I submit and the other is for grading purposes. I go through way ahead of time and enter the answer keys so as not to bias the scores. I implemented a check column which comes back with a check mark or an X for correct or incorrect, respectively. Beside that, I have a column which allows me to log the type of mistake I made. These tally to a table that gives me a quantitative distribution explaining why I'm missing questions. Depending on what this table says, I make a decision as to how I want to approach the issue of timing on a given subject.

The reason I made a distinction is because I realized the reasons I was missing biology questions was completely different from the reason I was missing physics or chemistry questions. For example, I was missing biology questions because my undergraduate experience in biology wasn't as solid as other courses. As a result, I was missing things because I was completely unfamiliar with the concepts. Of course, all of the information is in the passage, and I did much better when I took my time, but the real test IS timed so it came down to properly preparing for the feel of a testing environment and wasting limited and expensive practice content or ignoring the time limits and risking being too slow on the day of the test.

My rationale is this: Studies have proven our behavior doesn't change that much over time. As a result, if you have a hard time letting go of a question you can almost answer, this is likely going to be a challenge for you to some extent on test day no matter how much you prepare, because the fact is that you care about knowing it. This makes it hard to move on. For a mistake made based on a lack of knowledge, the only solution is to go back and truly learn it inside and out. Your instincts and reading speed won't change much before the test, so in my opinion, don't waste your practice content if you truly don't know the material well enough.

Consider another subject, physics. Most of my errors were due to concentration. I wasn't focused enough because I knew the material very well, and I jumped to a conclusion and made a foolish mistake. In this case, I absolutely force myself into a timed setting, because I know that I have to learn to focus intently even when i know something well, because there is no time to go back and discover my mistakes.

Lastly, lets take chemistry. This section is, in my opinion, the most taxing mathematically. It is SO easy to double and triple check your math and waste time in the process. We've been programmed to do this since we were old enough to think. This is something you HAVE to let go of. Take it under timed conditions, and if you solved the problem differently then they did, spend your time learning how to do it their way. Of course then, you're relying on the review program heavily with your fate, but if you chose a good review program, concede to the fact that they've been doing it a long time and are probably better at their job than you are. Let them teach you how to succeed on this test rather than trying to take the longest, most inclusive approach to every problem. While I can't speak for other review programs, the Berkeley review is excellent at this. And I've found that as I start forcing myself to solve problems their way, even though it is unfamiliar and absolutely uncomfortable to do so, the scores don't lie, and what was once one of my weakest subjects is getting stronger and stronger.

In biology, the more you know going in ahead of time, the less reliant you are on extracting information from the passages, which saves time. Thus, if you don't know it well, you'll see a trend between faster times and more mistakes.

In chemistry, the concepts require little memory recall, and so the mistakes present themselves in two regards. The either-or type (e.g. Is it endothermic or endothermic that acts this way, I can't remember!!) and the math-related errors. Either-or situations a frustrating, because they represent easy points, but guess what, you're already at that unfortunate junction and you have a 50/50 chance, so make a guess and move on. The math can slow you down significantly, which is why it's important to adopt their methods of estimation and answer elimination rather than busting out your kinematic equations or formula derivations starting with the Gibbs free energy equation every time, and trying to solve it purely with sound theory.

All of this is to say, if you truly haven't gone over something well enough, don't burn through the content, or you'll have nothing left to validate your level of understanding later on. Hindsight can undermine true weaknesses if you just rush through and read the answer keys and don't catalogue your mistakes. The excel workbook really helped, but if you don't want to take the time to set one up, I would be happy to upload mine for anyone who wants it.
 
Vaguely and ambiguously worded questions suck

TBR Thermodynamics #63:
Passage topic: Enthalpy of reactions, mixing salts into solution to make heat or cold.
Question: Which of the following fluids would be best for a generic radiator for a power plant?
Gripe: They don't say what the fluid will be used for... a solute, an insulator, a reactant,...
 
Yes. Good days and bad days. I made the decision a couple weeks ago to just stop allowing it to bother me. As soon as I did that my scores started being more consistent. Last week I scored as equivalent of 13's on all my practice passage sets. This week I could score 7's, but it doesn't matter. I'm learning the material, keeping to the schedule and doing all I can humanly do. Fate will take over the rest.

I think MCAT is like training for an endurance event (I'm a cyclist and used to race heavily). You train for months and months and at a certain point, and you never when, you peak. The trick is timing the peak right before an event and/or adjusting your training in order to ride that peak all the way into race day.

One thing I will say that has helped my consistency is waiting until the next day to test myself on the content review. I was reviewing and then testing on the same material that same day and not doing well. As soon as I started giving myself a night to sleep on the material, my scores have gone up. I don't know about you guys but my brain is wrecked after reading some of those lengthy BR chapters and I just don't think it's good timing to put it to the test. It would be like doing 4 hours of interval training the day of a race.

Yeah that didn't work for me either so I do all my passages from all subjects on the same day so it's like a mini MCAT. It works for me!
 
MCAT is a huge cockblock in my life.....had to miss opportunities in favor of MCAT studying, fml lol 🙁
 
Damn it verbal!! I can't get anything over an 8. Even when I feel good about about a VR test, all I get are high 8s. I started with 7-8s at the very beginning and this score is really starting to get to me. My goal is a 10 and it seems that most people improve by the end. English is my first language. I analyze all my tests. Even did group discussions on several passages (30+). I'm finally actively reading. I'm finally reading faster. I sometimes finish with a few minutes at the end, but I still cannot escape the 8. I started in September. This is so frustrating. Trying to keep my optimism here. Ugh.

Just needed to vent.
 
I am so over the verbose TBR organic chapters. Today is 40+ pages on nitrogen compounds. I grabbed my textbook from Organic Lecture and IT has less pages on nitrogen compounds than TBR does! I'll be refering to TPRH once again for this subject. I don't have time to waste on 40 pages of reading today. It's crunch time. Must do more passages.
 
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Damn it verbal!! I can't get anything over an 8. Even when I feel good about about a VR test, all I get are high 8s. I started with 7-8s at the very beginning and this score is really starting to get to me. My goal is a 10 and it seems that most people improve by the end. English is my first language. I analyze all my tests. Even did group discussions on several passages (30+). I'm finally actively reading. I'm finally reading faster. I sometimes finish with a few minutes at the end, but I still cannot escape the 8. I started in September. This is so frustrating. Trying to keep my optimism here. Ugh.

Just needed to vent.
I feel you. I don't know if you've taken AAMC 5R, you're going to want to take a lonngggg break after that section. On one of the passages (you'll know it when you see it) I missed 6/9 questions. I've never thrown a pencil at a wall before, but there's always a first time for everything. 5R was my first time. I feel dirtied.
 
One of my nursing buddies is a half step fro switching to sociology after a full semester of her prof assigning her (and only her) extra 9 hour shifts every week as punishment for not knowing the answer to a question no one else in the class answered. I called shenanigans, but our department isn't really known for being supportive.

In lieu of telling her to stick it out, I was like "can we run away to the Bahamas and start a bonfire with our textbooks to kick it off?" Apps/MCAT/pre-reqs are destroying my mojo.
 
I'm ready to have my weekends back. 🙂

I live in a location that has excellent outdoor activities, and I haven't been able to enjoy any of that since Christmas.

Don't get me wrong, I have plenty of me time. I'll be done studying tonight by 8pm and am done with everything. Normally I'm done by 5pm on Mondays (my 6 hour study day) but I've been feeling especially lazy today.
 
I'm ready to have my weekends back. 🙂

I live in a location that has excellent outdoor activities, and I haven't been able to enjoy any of that since Christmas.

Don't get me wrong, I have plenty of me time. I'll be done studying tonight by 8pm and am done with everything. Normally I'm done by 5pm on Mondays (my 6 hour study day) but I've been feeling especially lazy today.

That sounds nice. I'm taking a full course load and trying to complete as much practice material as I can. It's incredibly exhausting.

How much material do you get through in 6 hours, if you don't mind me asking?
 
That sounds nice. I'm taking a full course load and trying to complete as much practice material as I can. It's incredibly exhausting.

How much material do you get through in 6 hours, if you don't mind me asking?

Quite a bit. I'm 75% finished with content review, but I do four 1.5 hour study blocks. I'd say in a given 6 hours I spend 2ish hours reading, 2 hours reviewing past material and 1.5ish hours doing practice problems/passages.

Admittedly, these 6 hours aren't 100% efficient. As the date gets closer I'm feeling more urgency and have better focus.

In regards to the full course load...I tried that last semester. 17 credits of science on top of MCAT and working 20 hours per week. I learned I have limits. 😳

This time around, I ensured I have plenty of time. 14 (very easy) hours with ~10 hours of work per week. I have time to study a bunch and have some down time. I feel so much more healthy mentally than I did last semester. :laugh:
 
That sounds nice. I'm taking a full course load and trying to complete as much practice material as I can. It's incredibly exhausting.

How much material do you get through in 6 hours, if you don't mind me asking?


Dont worry i'm with you on this one. Spring break is mcat-slingshot time
 
TBR physics is absolutely terrible. It seems that it is getting worse and worse. Just did content review for electrostatics sections and the passages are completely unrelated to what the content review covered. I am finding that TPRH is a much better content review than TBR as I go on. TBR repeatedly introduces concepts in the passages that it hasn't even covered yet. I read through TPR's content review for electrostatics and magnetism and took a few more passages from TBR and did much better. I just think I am finished with TBR for content review and will be using it only for passages.
 
TBR physics is absolutely terrible. It seems that it is getting worse and worse. Just did content review for electrostatics sections and the passages are completely unrelated to what the content review covered...[...]... TBR repeatedly introduces concepts in the passages that it hasn't even covered yet. I read through TPR's content review for electrostatics and magnetism and took a few more passages from TBR and did much better. I just think I am finished with TBR for content review and will be using it only for passages.

I noticed this as well, but here's my take on it, for what it's worth.

The content review is elementary. Here are the scenarios, this is the key to each scenario. First 25 Questions: What happens in this scenario? Next 52 Questions get harder. And yes, some of it has not at all been covered in the content review, but this is where I think TBR's insight has been under-appreciated. First you review first principles. Then you conceptualize on basic questions. Finally, you synthesize what you already know and apply it to something you've never seen before. At least as I am understanding it, and having already taken the test once, albeit without any formal preparation the first time, the entire concept of the MCAT is to introduce something totally unfamiliar and force you to extrapolate from first principles.

Having taken the test before I ever picked up a review book, it has given me what I consider to be a unique insight into the quality of the material in the review books. I'm not sure what exactly you're referencing from the practice passages, so I'll have to give a generic example here. The type of passages you might run into on the real MCAT often won't discuss experimental procedures you've done, and they may be altogether foreign. However, regardless of how complicated the technology is that facilitates the experimental testing, these machines cannot escape the fact that the parameters they measure are described by basic principles. The equation describing the results measured in the test may be complicated, with all sorts of greek alphabet abuse, but despite all of this, you only need to focus on the variables you know, unless specified otherwise in the passage. One value in reading through complicated passages dealing with experimental technology is that if it happens to have applications in something that interests you, you're more likely to remember the big picture than if its just fragmented information.

In a more general sense, I think TBR has taken content depth in a direction different from the major test prep companies we're all familiar with. In my opinion, these companies dump everything right in front of you, giving you the impression all of the information is equally valuable. Then they give you questions that are either a.) ridiculously easy or b.) extremely difficult in a non-MCAT way; that is, they are high-yield math problems. While this may help one to more deeply understand all possible variations on a seemingly simple principle or relationship between variables in an equation, it does not help you understand the MCAT, because this is not the way they test you. If such test prep companies didn't have questions like this, however, their material would seem overly easy. To me, TBR uses 1.) the content review to paint an outline 2.) The question sets to add contour and 3.) The answer key explanations to finish the picture with color. It is only after these 3 experiences that you really have a grasp of the full scope of what they want you to know, but if they put all of this in the content review section, it would become a much greater chore to work through all of it. Even if this causes you to miss practice questions, the benefits are numerous. As science types, we don't like to feel unprepared, and so we "learn harder" when we spot a weakness after missing a question. In addition, even if it means missing every single practice question, if you're learning the hard way and all of a sudden something clicks, they've done their job, even though you might have had to suffer some crap practice scores to get there. It also teaches you to still concentrate and succeed in the face of material that makes you uncomfortable, I think.

Having said all of that, I will say that I think TBR Physics is, within the TBR set at least, the least in-depth of the subjects. On that note, I feel like Examkrackers really nails it on the physics review. They have a ton of great shortcuts and ideas to work it. Best of luck.
 
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