MCW Class of 2010, Part 3

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guyz i'm bored lets all go out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 i want to hang out and have fun!!!! right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😍i'm feeling frisky for some saturday fun!!!!!
 
Here we go again. My father is sick and I'm headed to Louisiana to be with my family. He's expected to recover, but he's been inpatient for more than a week now and my family is just wearing down. I'm so worried up here I'm not getting any studying done anyway so I might as well be down there.
 
samenewme said:
Here we go again. My father is sick and I'm headed to Louisiana to be with my family. He's expected to recover, but he's been inpatient for more than a week now and my family is just wearing down. I'm so worried up here I'm not getting any studying done anyway so I might as well be down there.
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flying, I assume? Good luck with your travels, and I hope your dad gets better.
 
BamBoozed said:
guyz i'm bored lets all go out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 i want to hang out and have fun!!!! right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😍i'm feeling frisky for some saturday fun!!!!!
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try craigslist.
 
samenewme said:
Here we go again. My father is sick and I'm headed to Louisiana to be with my family. He's expected to recover, but he's been inpatient for more than a week now and my family is just wearing down. I'm so worried up here I'm not getting any studying done anyway so I might as well be down there.
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good luck!
 
there's a guy sitting here in the library with either a bad case of silent hiccups, or some very interesting tics...
 
TheProwler said:
flying, I assume? Good luck with your travels, and I hope your dad gets better.
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Thanks, guys. He's getting there. He has quite a lot going on, but I'm hoping he'll be able to recover at home in a few days. I am so glad I came home. I have never in my life seen my mother this stressed, and I'm counting his AAA repair, the two and a half years when her invalid family moved in with us, and hurricane Katrina. Gotta to go to bed now! There's a chance a real live doctor might actually speak to us tomorrow.
 
You're all nutty.

My face is twitching. Anyone else find that odd?
 
I don't have any tums... mmmm for my viactiv calcium supplements. I think I'm turning 60.
 
All the peds or internal medicine fellowships (the boarded ones) are 3 years. OB/GYN for that matter as well.
 
Xandie said:
You're all nutty.

My face is twitching. Anyone else find that odd?
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Stress. Happens to me when I'm over my limit. Like, oh, say, now.

My dad is being discharged, though, in the next day or so. And my mom seems to be more or less over the flu and I'm hoping I can get on the plane before she figures out she gave it to me.
 
TheProwler said:
Whoa, I didn't know neonatology is another 3 years after a peds residency.
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you have much to learn young grasshopper.



That is exactly why I am not doing neonatology. I would kill myself during the 3 years of general peds.
 
akpete said:
you have much to learn young grasshopper.

That is exactly why I am not doing neonatology. I would kill myself during the 3 years of general peds.
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That's probably the biggest negative factor for me, but I'll see what I think of peds during my rotation.
 
Interestingly enough, the doctor who was harsh on everyone for being late to the cardiac sounds lecture in CER........was late to our session today. Funny how that works.
 
TheProwler said:
Interestingly enough, the doctor who was harsh on everyone for being late to the cardiac sounds lecture in CER........was late to our session today. Funny how that works.
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A word of wisdom about CER from an old, wise M4. I realize the class is horrible and everything, but I really now wish I had taken it a little more seriously. Unfortunately, I believed them when they told us, "Don't worry if you don't remember it all now, this course is just to expose you to everything and you will really learn it more solidly on the wards." Wrong. In reality you I learned very little about physical exam skills after CER because I don't think I have ever actually examined a patient with a physician present. Maybe once or twice with a resident. The only things I have learned have been from when I have been presenting a patient and I am asked something like, "so what about the Kernig and Brudzinski signs?" and I sheepishly have to admit that I have no idea what those tests are and I have to go look them up.

Is this the same experience you other M3/M4s generally have had?
 
yeasterbunny said:
A word of wisdom about CER from an old, wise M4. I realize the class is horrible and everything, but I really now wish I had taken it a little more seriously. Unfortunately, I believed them when they told us, "Don't worry if you don't remember it all now, this course is just to expose you to everything and you will really learn it more solidly on the wards." Wrong. In reality you I learned very little about physical exam skills after CER because I don't think I have ever actually examined a patient with a physician present. Maybe once or twice with a resident. The only things I have learned have been from when I have been presenting a patient and I am asked something like, "so what about the Kernig and Brudzinski signs?" and I sheepishly have to admit that I have no idea what those tests are and I have to go look them up.

Is this the same experience you other M3/M4s generally have had?
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Yeah, pretty much. And that's a good point.

I didn't learn how to do a full MS exam on ortho. I learned the trauma version of it.

I said as a goal of medicine I wanted to learn how to do a full physical exam.
 
speaking of ortho, so far all the cases i've done in anesthesia (2) have been ortho. kill meeeee!!!! 😀

actually though, the surgeon today was pretty cool...funny guy. He noticed that my VA badge says "chief of staff" and had a good time with that.
 
While cer is important, the course doesn't behave as if it is. The physical exam doesn't lend itself to book studying so I have to call the 7 minutes I spent with a "pediatric" patient insufficient to learn the finer or even duller points of examining a kid. To improve the course they should drastically increase the time spent actually doing a physical exam. People blow it off because it is painfully disorganized and there isn't enough repitition to gain practice.
 
also, please tell me that ethics has really helped you in 3rd and 4th years...
 
Agent Splat said:
Hackbarth. When I mentioned my hometown he perked up and started talking about how his father owned property around there.
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I love Dr. Hackbarth. If I hadn't done research with Ninomiya, I probably would've seen if he would've been my advisor. He told me that a common pimping question he asks is the side effect of something he uses during a case, (I'm bad for forgetting what the stuff is, but he told me M1 year), and the side effect is fire.

Dr. Hackbarth is also good friends with the Chief of Orthopaedic surgery at the U of Chicago, who just happens to be one of my dad's good friends, and a guy that my dad tried to get to go into practice with him after he graduated from residency. My dad was the Chicago guy's attending way back in the stone age. And apparently the Chicago dude trained the other ortho onc doctor here in his fellowship.
 
I just finished PBL.....YAY. So,how is the class graded and what parameters go into grading each student? I really did not enjoy my PBL class and I am worried about the class in general.
 
Also while I'm ranting stuff I wish I had known back then, I think I would not have done surgery first because it taught me bad habits about presenting patients. I still struggle on more medicine-oriented rotations because I'm always in a hurry and skip the less important stuff that won't fit into a 30 second presentation.
 
arsenewenger said:
I just finished PBL.....YAY. So,how is the class graded and what parameters go into grading each student? I really did not enjoy my PBL class and I am worried about the class in general.
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i'd worry more about neuro and physiology.

doesn't the course syllabus explain the grading?
 
indo said:
While cer is important, the course doesn't behave as if it is. The physical exam doesn't lend itself to book studying so I have to call the 7 minutes I spent with a "pediatric" patient insufficient to learn the finer or even duller points of examining a kid. To improve the course they should drastically increase the time spent actually doing a physical exam. People blow it off because it is painfully disorganized and there isn't enough repitition to gain practice.
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Exactly. Doing a complete H&P is actually useful, but they break it up into so many random components that you can't put it all together.
 
Does anyone know how family medicine with OB works? Would I just have to do a family medicine residency and then a fellowship in OB? (Sorry all, not to change the subject back...)
 
Generally, OB is a part of the family medicine residency. Certain residencies focus more on it than others, so that would be something to look at when you're starting to look at residencies. The main reason to do a fellowship after a regular FM residency would be if you wanted to do c-sections, and even with that, some residencies train you to do that as well.
 
Boy, this flu bug just goes on and on and on. But don't worry, I'll be back at school
on Monday to share it with you all!
 
Agent Splat said:
and i'll never eat pork again. i feel like crap.
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It took you long enough to figure that one out... I've been a proponent of that policy for years. YEARS, I tell you. YEARS!!!
 
No kidding. I feel like I've been repeatedly punched in the stomach, but without the pain aspect of the discomfort. Getting up, smelling food, thinking about things like vomiting, and more, all make me feel like vomiting again. I MIGHT attempt a granola bar here.

Chloe is fun though. Too bad she still has a little bit of the animal shelter smell on her which doesn't make me feel any less sick to my stomach.
 
Agent Splat said:
No kidding. I feel like I've been repeatedly punched in the stomach, but without the pain aspect of the discomfort. Getting up, smelling food, thinking about things like vomiting, and more, all make me feel like vomiting again. I MIGHT attempt a granola bar here.

Chloe is fun though. Too bad she still has a little bit of the animal shelter smell on her which doesn't make me feel any less sick to my stomach.
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Aww, feel better. Have Karen give Chloe a bath with nice smelling shampoo. Then stick tape on Chloe's foot. It's funny when cats walk around with a small piece of scotch tape on their feet.

Note: I'm not advocating cruelty to animals. It is a cute game.
 
Ashers said:
Note: I'm not advocating cruelty to animals. It is a cute game.
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It depends on the cat. Some cats completely freak out.

Hey, does anyone (female) want to take my place at the Shivs volleyball game tomorrow night if no one on the team steps up? I'm still too fluey.
 
Cats actually have a similar game they play called "watch the humans sniff around the house trying to find where I peed".
 
indo said:
Cats actually have a similar game they play called "watch the humans sniff around the house trying to find where I peed".
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I always thought I was good at that game until I took the duvet off my down comforter.
 
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