MCW Class of 2010, Part 3

Burrell College of Osteopathic Medicine
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EmjayBeeDoc said:
You all need to get a life.

I love going thru all of Szabos 250 slides that all say "read Robbins"

I want cake.
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I got to the 121 slide 4th lecture, said "Screw it!" and went home. I'll tackle that in the morning.

If you're still at school, go to the first floor of childrens, to the desperado cafe (thanks Don!), near the elevators. They have desserts. I saw pies, muffins, monster cookies, and I think some cake, when I was there at about 830 for dinner.
 
Ashers said:
I didn't take it personally, I was actually sitting down when Tom came by and talked to Owen and Marty (makes for an interesting lab group) 😉. I also avoided eye contact. I've known about it, got the original email, but I rarely do anything on the night that exams get done because I'm so exhausted anyway, and there's class the next day. So I just avoided eye contact. That's what I meant by overlooked... I was sitting down and stuff... I should've explained more, but I had a migraine at the time I typed it.
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Okay, good. Just making sure! 😀
 
akpete said:
I'm sure you could still go on the crawl. It's just that you might not get a shirt. But everyone's welcome!!
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Is cool. I never knew an e-mail had been sent out. Guess I just don't talk to too many pub-crawlers on a daily basis, otherwise I would probably have known about it already.
 
Agent Splat said:
From Robbins and Cotran's Path:

"Molecular details of the deadly handshake between HIV glycoproteins and their cell-surface receptors have been uncovered...."

Such dramatic personification...
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I can no longer identify the brain in cross-sections of gross-specimen. Marty just pointed out the genu of the corpus callosum, and I had to make sure it was still the brain. Oh geez. Studying a little too much...
 
Ashers said:
I can no longer identify the brain in cross-sections of gross-specimen. Marty just pointed out the genu of the corpus callosum, and I had to make sure it was still the brain. Oh geez. Studying a little too much...
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Brain? Huh?
 
Ashers said:
I'm glad I'm not the only one who was learned effectively in neuro.
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Yeah, and the saddest thing is my grade was actually pretty good in that class. Yet, I learned, and retain nothing. Absolutely nothing.
 
DoctorFunk said:
Yeah, and the saddest thing is my grade was actually pretty good in that class. Yet, I learned, and retain nothing. Absolutely nothing.
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Most of the stuff that's vaguely familiar is from Stucky's stuff. Which is good because that's what's on the boards... lesion stuff. When I was at Dr. Stucky's house for a party, she was like "So what did you think of the neuro course?" I was like, "There were some aspects I liked, for example, your lectures, but on the whole, I thought the class was very poorly organized, and there was a rumor going around our class that you were going to be the course director." She said she gave Neitz suggestions at how to improve the class... I doubt he'll take them.
 
Ashers said:
Most of the stuff that's vaguely familiar is from Stucky's stuff. Which is good because that's what's on the boards... lesion stuff.
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Yeah, I think the whole course would be improved if it was all like Stucky and Krippy's lectures and notes. They were well-organized, and didn't unnecessarily focus on trying to derive general principles from some hyperdetailed research that the lecturer's lab had completed in 1996. I blame Neuro for singlehandedly turning me into a student who will do anything possible to skip lecture.
 
DoctorFunk said:
I blame Neuro for singlehandedly turning me into a student who will do anything possible to skip lecture.
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I still haven't come to that... my mind blanks out in lecture or I fall asleep, or I go online. (eg. Szabo's lectures and med ethics.) I have yet to stay awake through med ethics. If you're ever in class and see my bangs in front of my face, that most likely means I'm sleeping.

The thing that entices me to skip lecture is snowboarding on cheap lift-ticket days when we don't have too many lectures to catch up on.
 
Note to self: Need to grow longer bangs.
 
There was cake in the alumni center room thing last night.
 
samenewme said:
So if someone gives me good anatomy large group notes, I should pat their ass? I'll never learn all these social rules.
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Well, it is football season so you can, technically, pat someone's ass for any reason.

Ex: "Dr. Krippendorf, [smack!], nice lecture!"

This is totally appropriate during football season.
 
akpete said:
Sign-up/money was originally due tomorrow at noon. Tom was signing up people in lab because they found out they needed to order the T-shirts earlier than they first thought. An email went out about the pub crawl 2 days ago, but they can't possibly list all the m1s and m2s cuz ya have to enter them all in basically by hand. Can't exactly use Angel lists for a pub crawl. People who got the email were supposed to spread the news to anyone who might not have gotten it. I'm sorry if you didn't find out about it until today. It was never intended to not include people because they have to discuss plans with SO's.

I'm sure you could still go on the crawl. It's just that you might not get a shirt. But everyone's welcome!!

Oh, and Ashleigh, I think Tom was partly trying to hit up the people he already pretty much knew would go but hadn't signed up yet. So I'm sorry. 😳 I'm sure it was nothing personal.
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Do "they" call it a pub CRAWL because you people walk slowly or because people get so drunk that they can't walk.
 
Overheard in anatomy lab:
"is it true that black people have an extra muscle or bone in their eyebrows that makes them unable to like Seinfeld?"
 
indo said:
Do "they" call it a pub CRAWL because you people walk slowly or because people get so drunk that they can't walk.
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Crawl is two-fold. You go from bar to bar to bar, and therefore, can't walk.
 
indo said:
Overheard in anatomy lab:
"is it true that black people have an extra muscle or bone in their eyebrows that makes them unable to like Seinfeld?"
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Interesting.
 
indo said:
Overheard in anatomy lab:
"is it true that black people have an extra muscle or bone in their eyebrows that makes them unable to like Seinfeld?"
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I KNEW it! I'm black!
 
Agent Splat said:
Drives me nuts...everyone always seems to think/expect that I love Seinfeld. I watched about 1 episode in my life and thought it was pretty blah.
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Actually, I always pegged you as the kind of guy that would really appreciate the comic stylings of Roseanne.
 
Agent Splat said:
Drives me nuts...everyone always seems to think/expect that I love Seinfeld. I watched about 1 episode in my life and thought it was pretty blah.
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I couldn't get into it myself. I don't much like most sitcoms to begin with; I have too much suspension of disbelief and it upsets me to watch the characters shoot themselves in the foot over and over. When they do the same thing in Seinfeld, only with characters you can't bring yourself to like very much, but can't bring yourself to hate very much, it just makes me squirm.

Okay, glycolysis and gluconeogenesis are covered for today. Now just two more major pathways and three or four piddly regulatory mechanisms and I'm DONE. Except for, you know, all the anatomy I'm behind on from being sick this week.
 
Ashers said:
You can study that by determining which of your sinuses are congested. Outflow and all of that.
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I would avoid thinking too much about the potential for simple sinus infections to spread to the brain though. I mean, you know, that's pretty rare, after all.
 
DoctorFunk said:
I would avoid thinking too much about the potential for simple sinus infections to spread to the brain though. I mean, you know, that's pretty rare, after all.
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Unfortunately, it's pneumonia, and we haven't done the thorax yet. So no clinical correlation benefit for me. Boo! But pretty much all my sinuses were filled a couple of weeks ago when we had the Tragic Glade Plug-in Oil Spill. I wish I'd read ahead!
 
samenewme said:
Unfortunately, it's pneumonia, and we haven't done the thorax yet. So no clinical correlation benefit for me. Boo! But pretty much all my sinuses were filled a couple of weeks ago when we had the Tragic Glade Plug-in Oil Spill. I wish I'd read ahead!
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If you're a tiny thoracic surgeon standing in the right ventricle, what are you going to see?

I may not want to have anything to do with guts and whatnot, but that was an awesome section of anatomy. I heart Kolesari.
 
Here's a good physiology question: If you're a med student playing in a co-ed softball game that lasts one hour, how many beers is it safe to drink before driving home? Please give the answer in units of 16 oz. bottles.
 
I'd max out with 3 beers, but I'd probably cut myself off after 2. You can buy a breathalyzer for pretty cheap though.
 
Does said med student use "points" or "runs" when referring to softball games?
 
Runs. Always runs.
 
samenewme said:
You ate some of that bagged spinach, didn't you?
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How am I going to "Popeye Up" without my bagged spinach? I can't stand that greasy canned stuff.
 
Popeye only ate canned spinach.

What a great softball game. I've never seen so many errors made by 1 team. 0-21 me thinks, with 1 mercy inning. Team America = 0 April's team = 21. Good job April! =) I was highly entertained by the badness of my team (myself included, ok, mostly the girls because we've never played) out at 3rd base.

Of course, "Sad Panda" aka Marty is a star.
 
Ashers said:
Popeye only ate canned spinach.

What a great softball game. I've never seen so many errors made by 1 team. 0-21 me thinks, with 1 mercy inning. Team America = 0 April's team = 21. Good job April! =) I was highly entertained by the badness of my team (myself included, ok, mostly the girls because we've never played) out at 3rd base.

Of course, "Sad Panda" aka Marty is a star.
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Hey it was fun though. Good game!!!

Hhhmmm...as for the beer. I didn't bring any cuz of path studying afterwards. Although, I must say, I'm quite tempted by it sitting in my fridge right now. It's 0.08 now instead of 0.1, so I'm thinking I can only have 2. Where can you buy your own breathalyzer (I have heard that they're cheap as well)? Are they accurate?

No poopy!! I had spinach in my salad as the school cafeteria this past week. And last week too. Must not have been the same batch. Whew!!

:barf:
 
A girl from the M1 class either broke or severely sprained her ankle during our softball game tonight. I don't know her name, but if you see someone walking around school with crutches on Monday, wish her your condolences.

She went to slide into 2nd base and caught her foot on the edge of the bag...I was in right field and could hear her ankle pop. 😱 It was pretty much your classic plantar-flexed inversion ankle sprain with anterior talofibular or calcaneofibular ligament involvement, but when I ran up there to help her it was already quite swollen, which makes me think it was broken.
 
Andy15430 said:
A girl from the M1 class either broke or severely sprained her ankle during our softball game tonight. I don't know her name, but if you see someone walking around school with crutches on Monday, wish her your condolences.

She went to slide into 2nd base and caught her foot on the edge of the bag...I was in right field and could hear her ankle pop. 😱 It was pretty much your classic plantar-flexed inversion ankle sprain with anterior talofibular or calcaneofibular ligament involvement, but when I ran up there to help her it was already quite swollen, which makes me think it was broken.
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Dang. That sounds painful. Sprains can swell up immediately too; my ankle did when I sprained it really bad playing volleyball in high school.
 
Ashers said:
Dang. That sounds painful. Sprains can swell up immediately too; my ankle did when I sprained it really bad playing volleyball in high school.
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Ahh, I see. Too bad we didn't have you or any other budding orthopods available to help with the diagnosis (actually, you were probably over on the other field...you play with Team America, right?).
 
Andy15430 said:
Ahh, I see. Too bad we didn't have you or any other budding orthopods available to help with the diagnosis (actually, you were probably over on the other field...you play with Team America, right?).
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Yep. April and I were both over there. Not that I'd know anything after our little CER thing on Wednesday. I was highly disappointed in that. That was the session I was really looking forward to as well. I even told Dr. Braza (b/c I got stuck with 2 PM&R attendings) that I had a jacked up thumb that people could exam, and she was like "well, we're just not going to do the hand. blah blah blah." Fortunately, I got into the small break off group with the ortho resident. Then walking around the MUTS after the session, I saw a couple of the residents I knew from this summer, one of them checked my thumb for me -- it's getting better. I was also able to ask him about him presenting my thumb as a case study during the summer. Apparently, my thumb is famous over in ortho now. One of my friends, an M4, told me about my thumb being presented "25 year old female playing volleyball...," but I was playing volleyball with him when I injured it, and I also had him examine it and stuff. Awesome. Even the resident who led my small group wanted to examine my thumb because he had never seen a Gamekeeper's Thumb before, and I said that this one resident presented it, etc, he was like "That was your thumb?!" I think I have personal statement material here. 😉 At least for MCW anyway.

I think I got stuck in a sucky group.

That is my story because I'm tired of reading Robbins.
 
Ashers said:
Yep. April and I were both over there. Not that I'd know anything after our little CER thing on Wednesday. I was highly disappointed in that. That was the session I was really looking forward to as well. I even told Dr. Braza (b/c I got stuck with 2 PM&R attendings) that I had a jacked up thumb that people could exam, and she was like "well, we're just not going to do the hand. blah blah blah." Fortunately, I got into the small break off group with the ortho resident. Then walking around the MUTS after the session, I saw a couple of the residents I knew from this summer, one of them checked my thumb for me -- it's getting better. I was also able to ask him about him presenting my thumb as a case study during the summer. Apparently, my thumb is famous over in ortho now. One of my friends, an M4, told me about my thumb being presented "25 year old female playing volleyball...," but I was playing volleyball with him when I injured it, and I also had him examine it and stuff. Awesome. Even the resident who led my small group wanted to examine my thumb because he had never seen a Gamekeeper's Thumb before, and I said that this one resident presented it, etc, he was like "That was your thumb?!" I think I have personal statement material here. 😉 At least for MCW anyway.

I think I got stuck in a sucky group.

That is my story because I'm tired of reading Robbins.
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That's awesome! All hail your famous thumb. You will have to explain what makes Gamekeeper's Thumb so interesting sometime.

I had Dr. Braza for my small group, and for the 1 on 2 instruction (did every group have 4 instructors in it?). She tried to steal my reflex hammer.
 
On a side note, I've always been curious about this, so I finally looked up the etymology of the word "orthopedics." I was so confused at the "pedics" part of it, since "ped" denotes child or boy in Greek. Turns out Orthopedics grew out of the art of correcting and preventing deformities in children. So orthopedics loosely translated means "straight boy" (or "correct child").

What has me confused is why we informally call them "orthopods." Any insight as to why the feet ("pod") get brought into it, or is it just 'cause it sounds better than calling them "orthopeds."
 
Andy15430 said:
That's awesome! All hail your famous thumb. You will have to explain what makes Gamekeeper's Thumb so interesting sometime.

I had Dr. Braza for my small group, and for the 1 on 2 instruction (did every group have 4 instructors in it?). She tried to steal my reflex hammer.
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I heard a lot of groups had 4 instructors. I know when my group went, we had 3 instructors.

I think Gamekeeper's is just pretty rare with playing volleyball. It's more common in skiing when one falls while holding the pole (basically the thumb is abducted), and of course, all those Scottish Gamekeepers who need to break the necks of rabbits or fowl. It's a torn Ulnar Collateral Ligament (that we didn't have to know) that connects the 1st metacarpal to the proximal phalynx.

I think the resident may've used my case for a case study because we had an MRI done. I sat up in ortho for an hour because noone could find an ultrasound machine which would've sufficed, so the hand surgeon was like "well, what's insurance for? Let's get you an MRI." Then later when I went to have my preceptor look at the MRI for me, some other residents looked at it first and were like "We've never seen an MRI of the thumb before."

The etimology is weird. My dad has some sign up in his office dealing with taking care of orphans or something like that. It's an old school vintage type sign that a patient gave to him a long time ago basically b/c it's an Orthopaedic Sign.

I just googled "orthopod" and all i got is "slang for an orthopedist." I think orthopod sounds cooler. Like pod-people or something, but I grew up making fun of orthopaedists.

Are anesthesiologists called anythign for short? Sthesys, maybe?
 
Andy15430 said:
A girl from the M1 class either broke or severely sprained her ankle during our softball game tonight. I don't know her name, but if you see someone walking around school with crutches on Monday, wish her your condolences.

She went to slide into 2nd base and caught her foot on the edge of the bag...I was in right field and could hear her ankle pop. 😱 It was pretty much your classic plantar-flexed inversion ankle sprain with anterior talofibular or calcaneofibular ligament involvement, but when I ran up there to help her it was already quite swollen, which makes me think it was broken.
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Ya shoulda come and got me!! I'm a certified athletic trainer. Not licensed, but certified. But really, in the end, I woulda done a couple tests for broken bones, and probably just told her to RICE it. So I probably wouldn't be as helpful as you'd think. 🙄


For small group Wed, I had Dr. Braza, but we only had 3 instructors then (last session). For me, it was a complete waste of time. And I hope that Martin and Eric didn't get too mad at me, cuz I kept answering all the questions. I was expecting a bit more, but whattya gonna do in one hour. I brought my special tests book with me for fun! We barely scratched the surface in class. In undergrad, I had 2 semester-long classes on evaluation, one for upper extremity, and one for lower.

Ashleigh, gotta admit, I'm not very good at evaluating the hand. I was hoping we'd at least mention it in the session just so I could have a refresher.
 
liverotcod said:
Gas passers.

My what a big thread you have!
[scoots back off to Madison]
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Hi Liverotcod!! How's it going? You don't have to scoot back to Mad-town. Come hang out anytime. We're cooler anyway, right?! 😛
 
Andy15430 said:
That's awesome! All hail your famous thumb. You will have to explain what makes Gamekeeper's Thumb so interesting sometime.

I had Dr. Braza for my small group, and for the 1 on 2 instruction (did every group have 4 instructors in it?). She tried to steal my reflex hammer.
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wouldn't happen to be Diane Braza, would it? if so, it's one of my dad's doctors and landscape clients...
 
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