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Just throwing it outta there... for my buddy and also for my own knowledge gain.

Are there medical schools that would award dentists MD with a shortened 2 or 3 year track? Of course this is completely irrelavent to the OMFS route. It's for dentists who would like to get MD for various reasons(learn medicine blah blah blah). Last time I checked, I heard University of Virginia or Alabama have routes like that.
 

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Probably wouldn't be very necessary or for dentists to get the dual degree, but if you are interested in something like that maybe there are also DO programs that offer the shorter route?
 

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Probably wouldn't be very necessary or for dentists to get the dual degree, but if you are interested in something like that maybe there are also DO programs that offer the shorter route?
MD only.

If they would give MD to the O.S. people after 2 or 2.5 years of schooling, it would make sense to offer a 3 year route for qualified dentist in my opinion.

Case western used to offer the 5 year MD + DDS route. don't know if what kind of options they would offer to graduated dentists tho.
 

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I want to be the first to specialize as a proctologist and a dentist.
 

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Gundam, I am curious about this as well. Does anyone know if there was a school that would offer either a MD or a DO degree after dental school. Preferably a DO school.
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Case western is offering a 5 yr DDS/MD program for those interested to become a general dentist with medical background as well.

The main goal is to create PRIMARILY a DENTIST who has medical training and may encompass some primary care into their practice as well. BUT mainly to create general dentist.
 

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Thats the type of thing I am looking for but I am already signed up to go to Marquette next year. Anything for a post DDS/ DMD route for additional medical training besides the 6 year OMFS?
 

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The problem with CASE's MD/DDS program is that you have to take the MCAT :(

It might not be a big problem for some, but you can't pin all your hopes of getting into just ONE special program. You have to apply to many schools, so your delima becomes, what r you going to apply to? dental schools? medical schools? you can't apply to both cause neither one will take you seriously and they'll think you don't know what your really want.

Honestly, If you choose DDS/DMD, don't think about MD just yet, finish dental school first then you can evaluate your situation and see if you want to go through more schooling. Dental school (from what I remember my sister going thru) is no joke, they throw so much information at you at a short period of time that I imagine it makes many people sick of studying and never want to deal with it ever again
 

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forgot to mention.... Nova has a DDS/DO 6-year program that does NOT require the MCAT. Basically if you get accepted to thier dental (or med) school, you can requiest to apply for thier special 6-year program...

Kinda cool I think, however, year 1 of this program = 120 credits :eek::eek:
Thats like an entire undergrad education done in 1 year
 

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I want to be the first to specialize as a proctologist and a dentist.
My sister is a proctologist... she thinks my job is gross... go figure!:laugh:

Isn't it fitting your name is browncrack and you came up with this reference? haha
 

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Seems like it's unavoidable to take the MCAT and apply, but perhaps the medical school will waive some classes here and there.
 

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What would be the purpose of having a combined DDS/MD?

I am not trying to be sarcastic, I have been thinking about that option too and just trying to see how you can use it.

Form what I understand, if you do Case's combined DSS/MD, you will also need to do one year of residency at least, to be a general practitioner training.

So can you be part time general practitioner and part time dentist?

Will it help in completing a OMFS residency?
 

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What would be the purpose of having a combined DDS/MD?

I am not trying to be sarcastic, I have been thinking about that option too and just trying to see how you can use it.
someone said it best in a previous thread:
"its a combination of open your mouth and drop your pants"

Form what I understand, if you do Case's combined DSS/MD, you will also need to do one year of residency at least, to be a general practitioner training.
Yeh I heard that too. Even Nova's 6-year program for DO/DDS is same thing, you have to do 1 year of residency (I think internal medicine).

So can you be part time general practitioner and part time dentist?
Okay, on thier websites, they say they like to train doctors/dentists to work in areas where physicians are in shortage (dentists and doctors). That way you can have a primary care physicial (like your typical family medicine doctor) and a dentist in the same building.

Will it help in completing a OMFS residency?
There is zero advantage to OMFS.
Typical 6-year OMFS = 4 years of dental school + 6 years of residency
This MD/DDS program = 5-6 years of schooling + 4-6 years of OMSF residency = zero advantage
 

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Just throwing it outta there... for my buddy and also for my own knowledge gain.

Are there medical schools that would award dentists MD with a shortened 2 or 3 year track? Of course this is completely irrelavent to the OMFS route. It's for dentists who would like to get MD for various reasons(learn medicine blah blah blah). Last time I checked, I heard University of Virginia or Alabama have routes like that.
Hi there,

Just for historial talk, yes there was an off shore medical school that offered "fast track" MD degree to health care professionals (DDS, OD, DC...) after two years (or 18 months I think) of study a few years ago. However, due to the controversial events surrounding this "fast track" program, it was later discontinued. The ones who did this program but did not take the effort to pass the Steps or complete a residency really missed the boat as legally, you can put yourself in lots of trouble with a MD after your name but not licensed to practice medicine. So if you want more credentials and can find a school with the fast track route, make sure you take the Steps and get yourself licensed. DP
 

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I could see this being potentially useful if you like both medicine and dentistry. If you went to a rural area you would basically be THE healthcare provider. Even in the city you would still be able to use it, but primary care isnt fun these days. Might change with the new laws, I dont know.
 

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MD after DDS is not to learn... its just eggo and nothing wrong with that if you ask me cause eggo is sometimes a very powerfull motivator
I agree, waffles are delicious and motivate me to do things as well. :D

But in all seriousness, dentalWorks is right... going through the grueling process of getting an MD and not getting much use out of it not only sounds like torture but is also very pricey. If you really want an MD, work harder for a year on getting into MED school
 

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I agree, waffles are delicious and motivate me to do things as well. :D

But in all seriousness, dentalWorks is right... going through the grueling process of getting an MD and not getting much use out of it not only sounds like torture but is also very pricey. If you really want an MD, work harder for a year on getting into MED school
Now, the thing that interests me most about your post: I thought the LS1 was introduced in the 1998 camaros/firebirds and 1997 vettes, so I am inclined to think that you acutally placed an LS1 into a 92 Camaro WHICH IS BAD ***** !!!

wow im so off topic here
 

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Now, the thing that interests me most about your post: I thought the LS1 was introduced in the 1998 camaros/firebirds and 1997 vettes, so I am inclined to think that you acutally placed an LS1 into a 92 Camaro WHICH IS BAD ***** !!!

wow im so off topic here
Your inclination would be correct :cool:
 

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Okay, on thier websites, they say they like to train doctors/dentists to work in areas where physicians are in shortage (dentists and doctors). That way you can have a primary care physicial (like your typical family medicine doctor) and a dentist in the same building.
yes this was the main idea behind the program. i wonder how the grads are doing. there is a definitely shortage of public health dentists, dds/mph people. but a dds/primary care md though...as a practice model it just doesn't seem very time or cost-efficient. but maybe the right person in the right environment could pull it off.

gundam and your "buddy" who initially asked the question, dental school will provide you with enough medical knowledge to care for your patients.
so no point in med school to gain additional knowledge. waste of time,effort and money. if it's for your ego then don't go to dental school, just go to med school. stop looking for shortcuts.
 

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if it's for your ego then don't go to dental school, just go to med school. stop looking for shortcuts.
Well sometimes there is a clear difference between eggo and comfortable life style. Many people who go into dentistry do it cause of the comfortable life style (to me that means they are going to be happy with thier life), but in the back of thier heads, they may feel like they have a chip on their shoulder for not going to med school.

Look, I admire ANYONE who can or did obtain thier MD after getting DDS, talk about commitment and work ethic. Sure it might not be "financially" sound, cause they probably woulda made a boat-load of money instead of earning that MD, but to them, thats an accomplishment of a lifetime and brings them joy.