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Hey guys so currently I work with an md/phd and was wondering if that was acceptable for an md letter at schools? I haven't shadowed him but I have interacted with him for the past four months on research related topics. Can this still count add a physician letter? Thanks a lot you guys!
 
There's no reason it wouldn't count. He's an MD.
 
Hey guys so currently I work with an md/phd and was wondering if that was acceptable for an md letter at schools? I haven't shadowed him but I have interacted with him for the past four months on research related topics. Can this still count add a physician letter? Thanks a lot you guys!

Why not do yourself a favor and ask to shadow him? Sure, he can write a positive letter discussing your research involvement, but I would shadow him so he can also discuss and highlight some of your attributes that demonstrate your potential as a clinician.
 
Why not do yourself a favor and ask to shadow him? Sure, he can write a positive letter discussing your research involvement, but I would shadow him so he can also discuss and highlight some of your attributes that demonstrate your potential as a clinician.

Because he doesn't currently practice. He's taking a break and researching. It think he can identify my potential add a researcher because we do talk a lot about medicine. Should I just find some other doctor you think?
 
Because he doesn't currently practice. He's taking a break and researching. It think he can identify my potential add a researcher because we do talk a lot about medicine. Should I just find some other doctor you think?

I'm sure he will write you a strong letter. However, if you're applying to DO schools, it would behoove you to get a letter from a DO anyway. Shadow a DO, get a letter from them, and have your MD/PhD write an additional letter about how much ass you kick in the lab. His letter will be the stronger one, but this way you're jumping through all the correct hoops, too.
 
I'm sure he will write you a strong letter. However, if you're applying to DO schools, it would behoove you to get a letter from a DO anyway. Shadow a DO, get a letter from them, and have your MD/PhD write an additional letter about how much ass you kick in the lab. His letter will be the stronger one, but this way you're jumping through all the correct hoops, too.

For some the MD letter is enough right? I live in a slightly remote area where there aren't many DO's to shadow. I believe there are 7 and three of them are on leave for various personal reasons and the other 4 have not responded to my queries. I'm just worried because my pre med advisers said I didn't need either MD or DO letters for the schools I was applying to. Ugh 🙁
 
For some the MD letter is enough right? I live in a slightly remote area where there aren't many DO's to shadow. I believe there are 7 and three of them are on leave for various personal reasons and the other 4 have not responded to my queries. I'm just worried because my pre med advisers said I didn't need either MD or DO letters for the schools I was applying to. Ugh 🙁

Rule #1 about pre-med advisors/committees: YOU are responsible for checking on the admissions requirements and making sure THEY are doing what you need them to do (if you need them at all). Don't make the mistake of taking everything they say as law of the land without double-checking the admissions requirements. I recommend you read through the Osteopathic College Information Book, found here: http://www.aacom.org/resources/bookstore/cib/Documents/2014cib/2014 CIB Complete Small.pdf. Letter requirements are listed for each school.

As for your inability to shadow your research mentor, that's rough! I agree with Jedi. Your research mentor could certainly be the stronger letter, but if you're applying to DO schools I would try to shadow a DO and get a letter. How have you contacted the DOs in your area? Maybe you can ask your pre-med advisor for help finding one in the area if your school keeps lists on physicians known to allow students to shadow. If you absolutely cannot find a DO in the area to shadow, then you can try shadowing a practicing MD. Just keep in mind that if you have a MD physician letter you cannot apply to the DO schools that require a DO letter.

Try sending Goro a PM. You'll get a better answer.
 
Rule #1 about pre-med advisors/committees: YOU are responsible for checking on the admissions requirements and making sure THEY are doing what you need them to do (if you need them at all). Don't make the mistake of taking everything they say as law of the land without double-checking the admissions requirements. I recommend you read through the Osteopathic College Information Book, found here: http://www.aacom.org/resources/bookstore/cib/Documents/2014cib/2014 CIB Complete Small.pdf. Letter requirements are listed for each school.

As for your inability to shadow your research mentor, that's rough! I agree with Jedi. Your research mentor could certainly be the stronger letter, but if you're applying to DO schools I would try to shadow a DO and get a letter. How have you contacted the DOs in your area? Maybe you can ask your pre-med advisor for help finding one in the area if your school keeps lists on physicians known to allow students to shadow. If you absolutely cannot find a DO in the area to shadow, then you can try shadowing a practicing MD. Just keep in mind that if you have a MD physician letter you cannot apply to the DO schools that require a DO letter.

Try sending Goro a PM. You'll get a better answer.

I take full responsibility and I did apply to only schools that didn't need either of them, which my advisers said was good because they don't care about DO letters as long as everything else is alright. However, I was made aware that you actually do need these letters. I've mainly tried calling them and always reach their secretary who says they will call back later but I guess they just get busy and kind of forget. Yeah I'll try to re call them today and see what happens. Definitely will call my advisers again and talk to them about it. Thank you for your response!
 
I take full responsibility and I did apply to only schools that didn't need either of them, which my advisers said was good because they don't care about DO letters as long as everything else is alright. However, I was made aware that you actually do need these letters. I've mainly tried calling them and always reach their secretary who says they will call back later but I guess they just get busy and kind of forget. Yeah I'll try to re call them today and see what happens. Definitely will call my advisers again and talk to them about it. Thank you for your response!

In general it's fine if you don't have one for those schools. Lots of people are accepted with an MD letter instead of a DO letter every year. Some areas of the country don't have as many DOs as other regions, and they know that. It's just one of those things that can only help you if you have one since schools often state that it is "strongly encouraged". If anything it gives you a reference point to discuss your exposure to OMM, etc. and can demonstrate interest in the eyes of a committee member (in theory).

Have you tried using the "Find a DO" feature?: http://www.osteopathic.org/osteopathic-health/find-a-do/Pages/default.aspx

Good luck!
 
Rough spot for the shadowing bit. It is true that some places will accept any physician letter, but some are stricter on it being a DO. Check with the individual schools, and at least be aware of what your options are.

Also, if none are local, you could always do a trip to visit a COM and shadow there. Learn about a college, connect/demonstrate interest there, shadow, maybe talk to some students... Win-win, really.
 
Rough spot for the shadowing bit. It is true that some places will accept any physician letter, but some are stricter on it being a DO. Check with the individual schools, and at least be aware of what your options are.

Also, if none are local, you could always do a trip to visit a COM and shadow there. Learn about a college, connect/demonstrate interest there, shadow, maybe talk to some students... Win-win, really.

Oh that's a genius of an idea! Can't believe it didn't occur to me sooner! Thank You!
 
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