MD vs. MD/PHD #'s

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I tried doing a search, but couldn't find anything. Could someone please point me in the right direction to finding some averages for MD vs. MD/PHD applicants? I'm intersted in average gpa's, mcat's and such for matriculants. Not sure this data exists, but a friend and I were wondering which is harder to get into...thanks.

 

[GlcNac]

Baylor's MD/PhD statistics are listed on its website:

http://www.bcm.tmc.edu/mstp/admissions_statistics.html

The MD/PhD numbers seem to be roughly the same as for Baylor MD. I'm guessing that this trend probably holds for most other schools as well, although there might be a few schools where the MD/PhDs have slightly higher average stats than the MDs due to the smaller size/variance of the MD/PhD pool.

 

[linuxizer]

Originally posted by facted
I tried doing a search, but couldn't find anything. Could someone please point me in the right direction to finding some averages for MD vs. MD/PHD applicants? I'm intersted in average gpa's, mcat's and such for matriculants. Not sure this data exists, but a friend and I were wondering which is harder to get into...thanks.

Try http://intransit.us/main.html, Habari's site. At MSTP programs at least, the MD/PhD averages are higher than the MD averages.
--Ari

 

[notJERRYFALWELL]

National average is 3.7/35.

GPA/MCAT is not the best indicator to determine which is harder to get into, considering the amount and quality of research experience you are expected to have (more than 2 years, not just summers). You are expected to have a genuine desire to become a physician scientist, which is primarily determined during your interview. But the typical rejected MD/PhD applicant is accepted MD in a heartbeat, not vice versa.

 

[Habari]

i think at most mstp schools there is a differential in scores. at our program the ave gpa is 3.81 and mcat is 36.2 [http://www.med.cornell.edu/mdphd/student.html]; while at the med school it is 3.7 and 33 [http://www.med.cornell.edu/education/admissions/class.shtml]. there is more national aggregate data on the nigms/nih site.

note that the scores associated with these programs are largely due to self-selection. as far as admissions go, there is usually a threshold level of scores that allows one to be nationally competitive [anecdotal suggests it is around 34] and then other aspects of the app matter more. there are roughly a bit more than enough slots for 'competitive applicants'. therefore, it seems to be the case that students who are interested in these programs simply have high scores resulting in higher averages.