Med sch Tuition

[mcatslave]

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On what bases should any med sch charge over $60000 for Tuition (Michigan state $60904). I rather take a year off than pay that much, when I know other schs like Baylor are charging $6000 for instate students and about $25000 for out of state students.

I just saw the USNEWS report, and I really envy Texas residents. They have the cheapest schools, and they are mostly ranked in the top 20s.

 

[medking]

On what bases should any med sch charge over $60000 for Tuition (Michigan state $60904). I rather take a year off than pay that much, when I know other schs like Baylor are charging $6000 for instate students and about $25000 for out of state students.

I just saw the USNEWS report, and I really envy Texas residents. They have the cheapest schools, and they are mostly ranked in the top 20s.

Wow! and I thought University of Hawaii (JABSOM) was expensive. Did you get into Michigan state but nowhere else and having this dilemma?

 

[Mobius1985]

On what basis should any med sch charge over $60000 for Tuition (Michigan state $60904).

As long as someone is willing to pay it, they can do what they want.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Solution: Take a year off and set up residence in Texas for the next application season.

 

[TMP-SMX]

25k for Baylor is supposed to be high? That's about on par with about every other public school out there for in state students and nothing to complain about.

Schools with high tuition for OOS students can charge as much as they want. Don't apply to them.

 

[mfrizzo3]

You paying the 60K for the right to wear a T-shirt that reads Hopkins, Harvard, Penn etc...

 

[ryandote]

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[bodonid]

25k for Baylor is supposed to be high? That's about on par with about every other public school out there for in state students and nothing to complain about.

Schools with high tuition for OOS students can charge as much as they want. Don't apply to them.

I don't think you understood the OP. He/she is saying that even the OOS tuition at Baylor is cheap compared to the ridiculous prices at some schools.

 

[Tired Pigeon]

You paying the 60K for the right to wear a T-shirt that reads Hopkins, Harvard, Penn etc...

Or Michigan State....

 

[Asp]

On the basis of a free market economy, I think. Old Adam Smith really stuck it to you!

Medical school admissions is rather dissimilar to a free market economy. There's barriers to entry, asymmetrical information, price discrimination, branding, and all sorts of things Adam Smith never dreamed about.

 

[TheRealMD]

On what bases should any med sch charge over $60000 for Tuition (Michigan state $60904). I rather take a year off than pay that much, when I know other schs like Baylor are charging $6000 for instate students and about $25000 for out of state students.

I just saw the USNEWS report, and I really envy Texas residents. They have the cheapest schools, and they are mostly ranked in the top 20s.

Baylor's actually about $11K or so.

 

[mcatslave]

25k for Baylor is supposed to be high? That's about on par with about every other public school out there for in state students and nothing to complain about.

Schools with high tuition for OOS students can charge as much as they want. Don't apply to them.

Biodun is right; I was comparing the OOS Baylor tuition to that of Michigan. “Michigan State” is ridiculously overpriced.

I think most premed students do not factor in the loans that they would accrue while going to medical school before deciding what sch to attend. Most students would prefer getting into one sch and dealing with the consequences later.

 

[Jolie South]

Baylor's actually about $11K or so.

well, technically the tuition is $6k, but with fees on top you're looking at $11k.

 

[mcatslave]

You paying the 60K for the right to wear a T-shirt that reads Hopkins, Harvard, Penn etc...

I would understand Harvard or Hopkins charging 60000, atleast they are the top two in the country, but Michigan state of I think Osteopathic medicine!!!! common now, give me a break

 

[mcatslave]

well, technically the tuition is $6k, but with fees on top you're looking at $11k.

You are sooooo lucky "jolie south", I wish I had applied to Baylor. You woukld basically be a free man/ woman after graduation

 

[Jolie South]

You are sooooo lucky "jolie south", I wish I had applied to Baylor. You woukld basically be a free man/ woman after graduation

it's not THAT great. i'll still be in debt around $200k with undergrad/grad included.

 

[ryandote]

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[TheRealMD]

well, technically the tuition is $6k, but with fees on top you're looking at $11k.

It's not like we have an option of not paying the fees. Kinda like how the UC med school system can claim $0 tuition on paper, but most people find that a lie anyway.

 

[skyeblue0610]

I would understand Harvard or Hopkins charging 60000, atleast they are the top two in the country, but Michigan state of I think Osteopathic medicine!!!! common now, give me a break

As much as this sounds like a bash on osteopathic medicine, I do sort of agree. They are "known" for being "easier" to get in with lower scores yet the price tag is pretty steep.

I wouldn't go to Harvard for $60K, maybe for $40K...save that 20 and get a med school car

 

[Maxprime]

They'll teach you the basics of how to save lives while you waste the time of all of those that out-rank you and cost a lot. How's that for starters?

 

[Doublecortin]

It's not like we have an option of not paying the fees. Kinda like how the UC med school system can claim $0 tuition on paper, but most people find that a lie anyway.

does it mean I am gonna graduate with 0 debt ???😱

sweet🙂

 

[TheRealMD]

does it mean I am gonna graduate with 0 debt ???😱

sweet🙂

You wish. Fees up your $#! amounting to some $20,000 a year.

 

[TMP-SMX]

I don't think you understood the OP. He/she is saying that even the OOS tuition at Baylor is cheap compared to the ridiculous prices at some schools.

Makes more sense now. Yeah some schools are crazy. The problem is states cutting funding to medical schools and therefore increased tuition. Not to mention about WSU having their contract broken with the DMC because the DMC didn't want to pay out for care of the uninsured. Wayne State has very high OOS tuition, but I also know that a majority of our tuition money goes to the undergraduate campus for some reason I probably won't understand.

 

[mcatslave]

does it mean I am gonna graduate with 0 debt ???😱

sweet🙂

LOL....but Yea, u still have about 20000 in living expenses to worry about.

 

[strongboy2005]

Kinda like how the UC med school system can claim $0 tuition on paper, but most people find that a lie anyway.

I have been looking everywhere to find out UC Davis's costs of tuition and fees but I cannot find it. Anyone know of a site I can go to that tells me this info?

 

[chiz2kul]

Correct me if i'm wrong..
But isnt TUFT's (tuition n all) like about 80k????
Lol and during the interview process, they tell that you they know its expensive, but if you skip that everyday starbucks coffee, you'll be just ok... hahahahahahahahahaha I almost cried laughing when I heard that one.

 

[stooges287]

Correct me if i'm wrong..
But isnt TUFT's (tuition n all) like about 80k????
Lol and during the interview process, they tell that you they know its expensive, but if you skip that everyday starbucks coffee, you'll be just ok... hahahahahahahahahaha I almost cried laughing when I heard that one.

Lol yeah, I remember that during the presentation... the worst part was that the presenter was smiling the whole time, as if 320k in debt wasn't a big deal at all.

 

[Bacchus]

I would understand Harvard or Hopkins charging 60000, atleast they are the top two in the country, but Michigan state of I think Osteopathic medicine!!!! common now, give me a break

When I hear any medical school name I think of physician... but that might just be me, who knows.

 

[Bacchus]

As much as this sounds like a bash on osteopathic medicine, I do sort of agree. They are "known" for being "easier" to get in with lower scores yet the price tag is pretty steep.

I wouldn't go to Harvard for $60K, maybe for $40K...save that 20 and get a med school car

This was just pointed out on pre-osteo. The numbers for DO are about 0.2 GPA points and about 3-4 points on the MCAT lower than MD student averages (to be competitive at DO). We're not talking about the parting Moses did of the Red Sea; we are however talking of a X+ vs X average and a few questions on the MCAT.

 

[Narmerguy]

This was just pointed out on pre-osteo. The numbers for DO are about 0.2 GPA points and about 3-4 points on the MCAT lower than MD student averages (to be competitive at DO). We're not talking about the parting Moses did of the Red Sea; we are however talking of a X+ vs X average and a few questions on the MCAT.

GPA isn't that big sure but 4 points on the MCAT is a big deal...difference between a 28 and a 32 for example? Not that it matters I'm just saying tell it like it is.

 

[Bacchus]

GPA isn't that big sure but 4 points on the MCAT is a big deal...difference between a 28 and a 32 for example? Not that it matters I'm just saying tell it like it is.

If the area affected is VR its nothing at all.

 

[ar2388]

re:Tufts,
yeah.. it was 75,-83,000 per yr depending which yr we are talkiung about....but it was a very nice school...

 

[atomi]

The cost of medical school needs to come down drastically. The number of medical students needs to increase. The number of doctors needs to increase. The compensation of doctors needs to decrease. This racket needs to be broken up. Quality of and accessibility to care will improve, doctors will go into medicine for the right reasons, and will feel less pressure to earn and have more freedom to serve the community without a significant debt burden.

Will it ever happen? No. The AMA cartel will continue to limit the physician supply to artificially raise compensation and hinder patient access to care. Unless a leader and congress comes along with a healthcare policy to do something about this racket.

 

[atomi]

Correct me if i'm wrong..
But isnt TUFT's (tuition n all) like about 80k????
Lol and during the interview process, they tell that you they know its expensive, but if you skip that everyday starbucks coffee, you'll be just ok... hahahahahahahahahaha I almost cried laughing when I heard that one.

I've heard worse from other schools. They looked at us with a straight face and told us we needed to only drink water, freeze our credit cards in a bowl of ice, live with no less than 3 roommates, sell our car, handwash our clothes, and set our thermostats to 80 in the summer and 60 in the winter.

I almost walked out. The financial 'aid' system is absurd.

 

[cici1]

The cost of medical school needs to come down drastically. The number of medical students needs to increase. The number of doctors needs to increase. The compensation of doctors needs to decrease. This racket needs to be broken up. Quality of and accessibility to care will improve, doctors will go into medicine for the right reasons, and will feel less pressure to earn and have more freedom to serve the community without a significant debt burden.

Will it ever happen? No. The AMA cartel will continue to limit the physician supply to artificially raise compensation and hinder patient access to care. Unless a leader and congress comes along with a healthcare policy to do something about this racket.

Compensation needs to decrease so doctors get paid less?

 

[RoyBasch]

Correct me if i'm wrong..
But isnt TUFT's (tuition n all) like about 80k????

Is this true? My brother (who lives in boston) wanted me to apply there so we could be in the same city (tho he didn't know anything about the school) I didn't actually apply there for other reasons, but its seriously ~$80k/yr?
mother...
of...


-Roy

 

[scg]

The compensation of doctors needs to decrease. This racket needs to be broken up. Quality of and accessibility to care will improve, doctors will go into medicine for the right reasons, and will feel less pressure to earn and have more freedom to serve the community without a significant debt burden.

I think compensation should go down to zero as should the compensation for other jobs. That way doctors will go into medicine for the right reasons, as will farmers and accountants.

 

[UVAbme2009]

You guys are complaining about private schools. How about UVA where in-state tuition and fees are at $32,650 this year, with what I believe is a 5% increase set in stone for every year until 2011-2012? For in-state students, we are the most expensive public school in the nation. It's mindboggling.

 

[RoadRunner17]

Is this true? My brother (who lives in boston) wanted me to apply there so we could be in the same city (tho he didn't know anything about the school) I didn't actually apply there for other reasons, but its seriously ~$80k/yr?
mother...
of...


-Roy

Cost of attending the school, yeah it's something like that much $$. Painful isn't it?

 

[atomi]

Compensation needs to decrease so doctors get paid less?

Yes. Doctor compensation has come down recently in years but the fall has not been equally spread across the profession. And the reason for that fall is not indicative of positive change. We need more residency slots and an elimination of 'competitive' specialties that will result in a necessarily proportionate representation of specialists to meet the needs of the population. Most doctors are so overpaid, its sickening. This is not a profession that should allow one to become exorbitantly wealthy. The system is set up to allow that. Even worse are those that go through the system and somehow think they're entitled to the wealth or that they NEED it to cover their debts. People should go into this profession to serve, not to become wealthy (You shouldn't have to become indebted to serve either, but that's another story). There are other places that are more suited to doing that. Caring for others' health is not it. Just take a random sampling of premeds and medical students to see their appalling attitudes towards medicine and wealth.

Yes, doctors' pay needs to lowered to a fair and reasonable level. This will happen if the supply of doctors is increased. The AMA will never let this happen.

 

[mrx2]

Ok first of all, let's accept we do not live in a perfect world full of idealistic premeds. If doctors salaries were to go down, you would not attract the same amount of the best and the brightest minds. Plan and simple.
You will attract people that have the right reasons but these are not necessarily the smartest ones. Frankly, I want the salaries to remain high because when I grow old I want the smartest doc treating me not the one that went in for the right reasons. You may argue that these people could be smart, which certainly may be true but the point still stands. Decrease salary and you decrease the talent pool.

 

[scg]

Yes. Doctor compensation has come down recently in years but the fall has not been equally spread across the profession. And the reason for that fall is not indicative of positive change. We need more residency slots and an elimination of 'competitive' specialties that will result in a necessarily proportionate representation of specialists to meet the needs of the population. Most doctors are so overpaid, its sickening. This is not a profession that should allow one to become exorbitantly wealthy. The system is set up to allow that. Even worse are those that go through the system and somehow think they're entitled to the wealth or that they NEED it to cover their debts. People should go into this profession to serve, not to become wealthy (You shouldn't have to become indebted to serve either, but that's another story). There are other places that are more suited to doing that. Caring for others' health is not it. Just take a random sampling of premeds and medical students to see their appalling attitudes towards medicine and wealth.

Yes, doctors' pay needs to lowered to a fair and reasonable level. This will happen if the supply of doctors is increased. The AMA will never let this happen.

haha, you can't compete with others so you convince yourself you're better because you do not have the same "appalling attitudes" as other premeds/medical students