Medical specialty for someone interested in neurodevelopmental disorders

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What medical specialty would be good for someone who’s interested in working with patients who have neurodevelopmental disorders, such as autism, learning disabilities, and intellectual disabilities? Neurology? Psychiatry? Pediatrics?

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Developmental/Behavioral pediatrics fellowship
 
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What medical specialty would be good for someone who’s interested in working with patients who have neurodevelopmental disorders, such as autism, learning disabilities, and intellectual disabilities? Neurology? Psychiatry? Pediatrics?
pediatrics with developmental peds fellowship
 
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Def behavioral peds. Just realize it’s another 3 years after peds for less money
 
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Def behavioral peds. Just realize it’s another 3 years after peds for less money
People who go into Peds probably don't care about money. No one goes into peds for the money.
 
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People who go into Peds probably don't care about money. No one goes into peds for the money.

I am in peds. We don’t. But if you are already going into gen peds for no Money it’s hard to make less money. We do have loans to pay back after all
 
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I am in peds. We don’t. But if you are already going into gen peds for no Money it’s hard to make less money. We do have loans to pay back after all
You make a good point. But some probably have a strong desire to help those with developmental disorders that they won't mind the salary.
 
I can confirm that you will deal with plenty of this stuff in psychiatry. Even in general adult psychiatry, these are frequently encountered. If you wanted to do a child psychiatry fellowship and treat behavioral aspects of intellectual disability and autism all day, I’m sure you would be in high demand.
 
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You can carve out a child and adolescent psych career mostly working with that population.
 
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Just peds would see a ton of that. Of course dev/behavioral peds as a sub specialty, peds neuro and psych. I agree it’s a fascinating area and one of the reason I chose peds as a field.
 
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Neuropsychiatry. You can get there through a joint neurology/psychiatry residency (6 years) or a psychiatry residency with a neuropsychiatry fellowship (total 5 years).

Alternative is behavioral neurology. You get there with a neurology residency and a behavioral neurology fellowship (total 5 years).

Personally, I'd choose the general psych route with neuropsych fellowship.
 
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General psych then child, adolescent, and developmental psych fellowship - basically what they do all day is work with autistism and learning/intellectual disability. I rotated with one during 3rd year - they also make bank; only takes out-of-pocket in a wealthy neighborhood. Neuropsych sounds like it might lean more towards hard science vs the behavioral manifestations.
 
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General psych then child, adolescent, and developmental psych fellowship - basically what they do all day is work with autistism and learning/intellectual disability. I rotated with one during 3rd year - they also make bank; only takes out-of-pocket in a wealthy neighborhood. Neuropsych sounds like it might lean more towards hard science vs the behavioral manifestations.
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and they absolutely pay it. I've just learned to accept that not everyone wants to work with the underserved and rationalize it as, "at least they're not exploiting the truly vulnerable" haha
 
I'm in my third year of a Developmental-Behavioral Pediatric fellowship. Feel free to reach out if you have questions. If your interests are primarily autism, ID, and learning disabilities as you say above, DBP is the way to go. Also, I was told I'd make less money as a DBP than a general pediatrician, but that is not really true. I'll tell you in California, DBPs just out of fellowship are mostly being offered $210s-230s as opposed to about 180s for general peds. Also, DBPs are in short supply and high demand; so, you can basically pick your location (they rarely post openings for DBPs outside of the major academic centers because they assume they won't get applicants; so, a lot of us get positions by cold calling the hospital we want to work in). Although all the below see kids with autism to some degree or another (and all with a different flavor to how they manage the patients), I'll try to outline the differences in the fields suggested below:

DBP: 3 years of peds residency followed by 3 years of DBP fellowship. Programs look really different from each other; so, it's important to find a program that aligns with your interests. Generally, the main patients seen by DBPs are those with autism (often with aggression, self-injury, anxiety, or ADHD as a co-morbidity), intellectual disability, specific learning disabilities, high-risk newborns, ADHD, and anxiety. Depending on the site, they may also do CP, spina bifida, etc., but this is less common. DBP practice is a mixture of evaluations (particularly autism evaluations), recommendations regarding therapies/school services/etc, and medication management. DBPs tend toward more holistic, family-unit evaluation/treatment (I know, letting my bias creep in here). Lifestyle-wise, DBPs usually don't work nights or weekends, take call, or do inpatient consults (though there are very rare places out there that do to some extent).

NDD: 6 year residency/fellowship (usually a combination of training in peds, adult neuro, child neuro, and then specifically NDD). Typically, NDD is more physical-disability focused (cerebral palsy, neuromuscular conditions, etc.) than DBP (though both DBP and NDD have some bleed over and often co-located fellowships) and sees kids and adults.

Pediatric Behavioral Neurology: Would complete a 5-year peds/neuro residency (I think you can also complete a peds psychiatry fellowship but am not sure) and then a 1-2 year behavioral neurology fellowship. Generally deals with brain disorders (delirium, dementia, etc.), syndromes from brain lesions (aphasia, amnesia, etc.), and psychiatric manifestations of neuro conditions.

Child psychiatry: There are some joint peds psychiatry programs (5 years long usually), but otherwise its a 3-year psychiatry residency (combination of internal med, psychiatry, and neurology) followed by 2 year peds psych fellowship. Again, they have a lot of overlap with DBPs, but the emphasis tends toward medication management, and they tend to treat more severe anxiety or depression, bipolar, schizophrenia, conduct disorder etc. (in addition to ADHD and aggression). Although some child psychiatrists have a niche interest in kids with autism, ID, etc., most programs (from what my child psych colleagues tell me) don't train them much in these populations, and they often will send these kids to DBP.

Hope this helps!
 
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Following. This is basically my dream. Working with kids with neuro developmental disorders
 
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