Medicine as a Vocation

[mentirita]

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Doctors’ Work: Eulogy for My Vocation
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[Crayola227]

It's very interesting to me to contrast the American with the British formulations of what to consider in career choice. One I would describe as being very individual focused, and the other more about outlining the duties of the provider with respect to the society.

 

[Mad Jack]

It's very interesting to me to contrast the American with the British formulations of what to consider in career choice. One I would describe as being very individual focused, and the other more about outlining the duties of the provider with respect to the society.

It's easy to have a focus on society when your education is paid for by society and you have humane work hours. Our system is structured to make it feel as if society owes you for your financial and personal sacrifice, not the other way around.

 

[Crayola227]

It's easy to have a focus on society when your education is paid for by society and you have humane work hours. Our system is structured to make it feel as if society owes you for your financial and personal sacrifice, not the other way around.

lol I think the doctors that went on strike for the NHS might not entirely agree with you on some of those points, but I certainly agree the whole affair is approached rather differently across the pond and can account for the difference in attitudes. And I have been watching too much BBC tv.

But I otherwise agree wholeheartedly with your point, I think.

 

[NITRAS]

Otherwise the human condition will prevail and that never ends well for anybody.

What does this even mean?

To say that "unbridled capitalism" led to where we are today is silly. I personally have no idea what would have happened if government nor insurance companies never got involved with healthcare, but I can't help but wonder if we would all be better off or not.

The relatively high income of physicians brings some of the brightest in the country. You make it into a lower income and most of the best and brightest will go somewhere else.

I don't think society owes me anything, I just wish society didn't think they could have my time for free.

 

[Crayola227]

jesus can we stay away from the money part of this

doctors are paid less in others countries and it still attracts the best and brightest, and yet I still don't advocate that physicians here need to make less money to return the sense of vocation to practice

so I disagree with both of you

 

[Mad Jack]

jesus can we stay away from the money part of this

doctors are paid less in others countries and it still attracts the best and brightest, and yet I still don't advocate that physicians here need to make less money to return the sense of vocation to practice

so I disagree with both of you

When hours and productivity are taken into account, US physicians are often underpaid compared to their overseas counterparts

 

[Crayola227]

When hours and productivity are taken into account, US physicians are often underpaid compared to their overseas counterparts

lol well that really underscores that paying doctors well isn't necessarily the big thing to blame for why it feels like vocation has gone out of it

and I don't buy that the inhumane working hours and being totally chill with the current system of resident hazing is a requisite is part of vocation either

I'll write more later