Mid tier schools with little to no lectures

[tommymomo24]

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I applied to 28 schools but am mostly interested in little to no lecture curriculum. Thanks!


EDIT: Here's a list of schools I'm already aware of, trying to build out this list

Kaiser
U of Vermont
Harvard
Case Western

 

[Goro]

You do realize that you may not have any choice in where you end up?

 

[DrStephenStrange]

Do you REALLY want to be a Doctor or not?

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[Tenk]

$80k in tuition a year wtf???

 

[Lawpy]

This is news to me if someone is willing to reapply just because of curriculum preferences...

 

[tommymomo24]

Hi, I know I may be looking at one choice or a few choices that only have lectures. With cost of living and a husband also in school, loans will be $80k+. I come from a family of five physicians and am very familiar with the process. I know it is idealist and the career is the ultimate goal, but the education is the first step for me especially as a non-traditional applicant.

 

[9blade]

is there a reason you want little to no lectures?

 

[tommymomo24]

is there a reason you want little to no lectures?

looking for schools with PBL and case-based curriculum

 

[9blade]

I heard Dell is a flipped classroom learning style. Idk if that's what you mean

 

[Lawpy]

looking for schools with PBL and case-based curriculum

are you accepted?

 

[tommymomo24]

I heard Dell is a flipped classroom learning style. Idk if that's what you mean

Flipped learning could be what I'm looking for, depends how it's structured. I'll have to look into it. Thank you!

 

[Jappa]

op: "mid tier schools"
also op:

Harvard

 

[tommymomo24]

op: "mid tier schools"
also op:

Yes I know Harvard is not mid tier, but there aren't a ton of schools that have little to no lectures so just decided to list all the ones I'm aware of. Thanks!

 

[tommymomo24]

are you accepted?

Yes, to lecture-style only

 

[Lawpy]

Yes, to lecture-style only

have you interviewed at schools that emphasized PBL or flipped classroom?

 

[tommymomo24]

have you interviewed at schools that emphasized PBL or flipped classroom?

no, unfortunately not!

a few schools mention pbl, small group stuff on their website but after asking around it was really minimal or nonexistent at every school

 

[Lawpy]

no, unfortunately not!

a few schools mention pbl, small group stuff on their website but after asking around it was really minimal or nonexistent at every school

ok. since you're accepted, reapplying isn't a practical option as you'll end up with a major red flag for turning down an acceptance. if the curriculum preference is a major issue, you could try to sort through your school list and look online or MSAR or ask current students here in school-specific threads for schools that have PBL or flipped classroom. you can check to see if these schools accept any pre-interview updates (assuming you aren't already rejected there) and you can update them to express your interest and hope for the best.

otherwise, your worst case scenario is you end up going to a lecture only school, which is something worth tolerating if you want to pursue medicine

 

[tommymomo24]

ok. since you're accepted, reapplying isn't a practical option as you'll end up with a major red flag for turning down an acceptance. if the curriculum preference is a major issue, you could try to sort through your school list and look online or MSAR or ask current students here in school-specific threads for schools that have PBL or flipped classroom. you can check to see if these schools accept any pre-interview updates (assuming you aren't already rejected there) and you can update them to express your interest and hope for the best.

otherwise, your worst case scenario is you end up going to a lecture only school, which is something worth tolerating if you want to pursue medicine

thanks for the guidance! hoping that the updates regarding the other acceptances + curriculum preference will be enough

I know it takes a lot of energy + time + money to revamp med curriculums and I just appreciate it so much, understanding the value it brings to both clinical education and patient outcomes.. Hopefully this comes through on my updates

thanks so much!

 

[deleted804295]

Most the schools I've interviewed at have no mandatory lectures. I think it's becoming increasingly uncommon to have mandatory lectures.

 

[horses4life]

Most the schools I've interviewed at have no mandatory lectures. I think it's becoming increasingly uncommon to have mandatory lectures.

Yes I’ve seen that too

 

[Goro]

Most the schools I've interviewed at have no mandatory lectures. I think it's becoming increasingly uncommon to have mandatory lectures.

OP, schools with mandatory lectures are now apparently a rarity in the MD word. I think that there are maybe five in the DO world. Thus, at nearly all MD schools, and most DO, you can spend your two years of pre-clinicals and never attend a single lecture.

Add Wright State to your list IF you're a Buckeye.

Still want to reiterate that beggars can't be choosy if you have 0 or single accepts.

 

[tessellations]

Hofstra does case based learning! They claim to be entirely lecture free, although they do "large group" learning.

 

[horses4life]

I am a big fan of PBL.. When done correctly, it’s proven (by all sci/psych/social/edu research) to be more effective in so many ways

the issue with non-mandatory lectures is if they aren’t paired with PBL or other flipped classroom stuff. I don’t love that either. Then you’re just learning on your own, which we knowwe can all do but it’s not everybody’s preference.

 

[Shadowkeep]

Inte

Hofstra does case based learning! They claim to be entirely lecture free, although they do "large group" learning.

Interviewed at Hofstra recently... Their "large group" learning sessions is indistinguishable from lecture except for a flashy name. Even the med students acknowledged it as such. And class is mandatory, typically 8am to 12pm M-F.

 

[DNAJB6]

looking for schools with PBL and case-based curriculum

UVA

 

[tessellations]

Inte

Interviewed at Hofstra recently... Their "large group" learning sessions is indistinguishable from lecture except for a flashy name. Even the med students acknowledged it as such. And class is mandatory, typically 8am to 12pm M-F.

This is why I wrote it in quotation marks. That being said, Hofstra does have a heavily based case based learning curriculum which is what the OP seems to be most interested in. It’s also nice that they get out by noon - I interviewed at another school that incorporates case based learning that gets out even later with non-recorded lectures.