Midwestern - Wierd school?

[DrSmiles12]

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I think this school is ******ed. I just called to check my status - denied. Wierd! Science GPA 3.6, cum GPA 3.7, AA 19 TS 20 PAT 22, tons of service including 2 foreign humanitarian expedition, work at a dental office etc.

I don't know what there are looking for but they are really wierd. I talke to 2 friends as well with similar stats and they are both denied. WTF? Why interview someone if they aren't wait list worthy or acceptable?

School was way nice and the people were ok. Not having a building was a major negative anyway. Also they said that they hoped to have the building and it wasn't even guaranteed, how dumb is that?! Maybe I am just venting now but I am glad I am not going there anyway. The whole school had this highschool like atmosphere and their students were pretty imature.

 

[Theo]

I think this school is ******ed. I just called to check my status - denied. Wierd! Science GPA 3.6, cum GPA 3.7, AA 19 TS 20 PAT 22, tons of service including 2 foreign humanitarian expedition, work at a dental office etc.

I don't know what there are looking for but they are really wierd. I talke to 2 friends as well with similar stats and they are both denied. WTF? Why interview someone if they aren't wait list worthy or acceptable?

School was way nice and the people were ok. Not having a building was a major negative anyway. Also they said that they hoped to have the building and it wasn't even guaranteed, how dumb is that?! Maybe I am just venting now but I am glad I am not going there anyway. The whole school had this highschool like atmosphere and their students were pretty imature.

I am agreeing with everything DrSmiles12 says. I was hoping to go there, but after getting the literal cold shoulder there, I'm glad i'm not. Now i just hope and pray for my other chance!

You're my hero DrSmiles12!!!!!!

 

[drteeth]

No offense but stop the whining. You're not perfect, and your stats are good but not off the charts. Im sure youll get into other schools, but youre not necessarily guaranteed a spot wherever you apply. Just because you were not accepted doesnt mean the school is "weird." I plan on attending it because I like what I saw and the faculty was incredibly nice. The building will be completed on time which also means that we have brand new facilities - which is a lot more than can be said about many other dental schools! Furthermore, maybe this is a school that places more weight on the overall package than just numbers. Good GPAs dont always make good dentists. Maybe your interview was bad...

 

[Shayan_4_Cal]

I got an acceptance from another school and I haven't heard a word from Midwestern since my interview. I am no longer interested to know my status at MWU or hear from them.
I did not like the school's post interview communication and wouldn't go there if accepted.
The main reason is the "High" cost of attendance.
I'll be attending a school with an annual tution of 20K less than MWU and ASDOH. It all adds up at the end.
The MWU campus was very nice though. I'm sure that their dental program will be the top notch in the future. I saw a lot of potential and motivation at their campus.
Good luck to those who will attend MWU.

 

[litldime]

it happens to the best....have fun at marquette though...be glad you have somewhere to go because some ppl don't...who knows...maybe they thought you were too good for them, so they gave you the old...its not you, it's me...hope that makes you feel better
-ld

 

[domonas]

no one is guaranteed a spot in any school, regardless of numbers. they look at the total package, INCLUDING your personal statement and recommendations.

 

[DrSmiles12]

No, I don't want to give the impression that I was whinning. I was more than anything trying to say that they are running things a little wierd there. My interview went good and they were really positive.

I also didn't want to give the impression that I thought I was an automatic in, my stats are competitive, not perfect by any means. I am greatful to be in and not have to worry about it. I just really think its wierd how some schools run things.

As I mentioned before I wasn't too impressed with the faculty, they were kind, but just different type of people. The school was nice, but like I said when I went into the cafeteria there was a lot of immature stuff that I didn't like. The last think I will say is the fact that they aren't accredited yet, thats a major turn off. I wouldn't want to waste 80K + a year to go there when they have no prestigue or accredation. I am sure they eventually will make it just fine, give them 10 or so years and I bet they will have a really solid program.... Forgive the spelling I am in a hurry and don't have time to double check.

 

[chipab]

No, I don't want to give the impression that I was whinning. I was more than anything trying to say that they are running things a little wierd there. My interview went good and they were really positive.

I also didn't want to give the impression that I thought I was an automatic in, my stats are competitive, not perfect by any means. I am greatful to be in and not have to worry about it. I just really think its wierd how some schools run things.

As I mentioned before I wasn't too impressed with the faculty, they were kind, but just different type of people. The school was nice, but like I said when I went into the cafeteria there was a lot of immature stuff that I didn't like. The last think I will say is the fact that they aren't accredited yet, thats a major turn off. I wouldn't want to waste 80K + a year to go there when they have no prestigue or accredation. I am sure they eventually will make it just fine, give them 10 or so years and I bet they will have a really solid program.... Forgive the spelling I am in a hurry and don't have time to double check.

All dental schools have their own ways of selecting students, so its not just MWU that is running things "weirdly". I'm sure most if not every person on this forum was rejected from a school, despite the fact of having the stats, and a solid interview.

In terms of the accredation issue, it doesn't take "10 or so years" to have a solid program. UNLV opened in 2002, ASDOH opened in 2003, two solid programs, and two of the hardest to get into, didn't take 10 years.

Thought I'd also mention. Even in your 2nd response, you seem to be whining.

 

[onamission]

No, I don't want to give the impression that I was whinning. I was more than anything trying to say that they are running things a little wierd there. My interview went good and they were really positive.

I also didn't want to give the impression that I thought I was an automatic in, my stats are competitive, not perfect by any means. I am greatful to be in and not have to worry about it. I just really think its wierd how some schools run things.

As I mentioned before I wasn't too impressed with the faculty, they were kind, but just different type of people. The school was nice, but like I said when I went into the cafeteria there was a lot of immature stuff that I didn't like. The last think I will say is the fact that they aren't accredited yet, thats a major turn off. I wouldn't want to waste 80K + a year to go there when they have no prestigue or accredation. I am sure they eventually will make it just fine, give them 10 or so years and I bet they will have a really solid program.... Forgive the spelling I am in a hurry and don't have time to double check.

The school has it's initial accreditation, that's all any new school can get until they graduate a class of students. As far as prestige and reputation, what they're looking for is the "right" student that they feel will create their reputation. Many of us that were accepted may have GPA's on the lower side, but you have no idea what is behind those GPAs. My low GPA is a combination of my undergrad grades from way back and a 4.0 GPA in post-bac and graduate classes. Life experience also has a big impact on the admissions committe of a new school. As far as your interview going well, don't be so sure. I thought I bombed my Midwestern interview because they kept going back to certain points and pushing the issue. My experience in life is that sometimes when you think you did well in an interview you didn't and vice versa.

 

[Smills91]

I called MWU today, they also told me I was denied. I'm definitely a little bummed because I wanted to go there, but I'm just so grateful that I already was accepted by Louisville. GO CARDS! :-D That really helps with any minor disappointment i may have had going to MWU.

Good luck to you all. If I had the opportunity to go to MWU, I would(but only with the military scholarship).

 

[qwerty86]

I called MWU today, they also told me I was denied. I'm definitely a little bummed because I wanted to go there, but I'm just so grateful that I already was accepted by Louisville. GO CARDS! :-D That really helps with any minor disappointment i may have had going to MWU.

Good luck to you all. If I had the opportunity to go to MWU, I would(but only with the military scholarship).

Sorry to hear that smills, same here. Rejected after interview. When was your interview?

 

[Smills91]

Sorry to hear that smills, same here. Rejected after interview. When was your interview?

Sept. 17th.

 

[Niblick]

I also just called Midwestern and was told over the phone that I have been DENIED! (after interview) I sure hope I get a few more chances at other schools...

 

[hotinwoof]

I think this school is ******ed. I just called to check my status - denied. Wierd! Science GPA 3.6, cum GPA 3.7, AA 19 TS 20 PAT 22, tons of service including 2 foreign humanitarian expedition, work at a dental office etc.

I don't know what there are looking for but they are really wierd. I talke to 2 friends as well with similar stats and they are both denied. WTF? Why interview someone if they aren't wait list worthy or acceptable?

School was way nice and the people were ok. Not having a building was a major negative anyway. Also they said that they hoped to have the building and it wasn't even guaranteed, how dumb is that?! Maybe I am just venting now but I am glad I am not going there anyway. The whole school had this highschool like atmosphere and their students were pretty imature.

Well, I know a little about how that school works b/c I used to live there when my gf was going to DO school there. They pretty much leave the DO students to fend for themselves to get rotations because they have no hospital affiliation. It would have cost them money to affliate with a hospital so they affliated with a private doctors and clinics. Most hospitals dont want to teach someone's students for free.

Not saying anything about their dental school. MWU tries to compete directly with the other dental school within striking distance.

You didnt get rejected b/c you were not qualified. You were rejected b/c they know you wont go there after getting accepted somewhere else. It is a waste of their time and energy to recruit you.

 

[brandonbraud]

Let me jump on the midwestern bandwagon too. I mentioned in an earlier thread about how pissed off I was at the obscene number of applicants they interview over there. I am an average applicant, just got accepted this week, but had I known the story about Midwestern I would have never applied. They promised to tell me something Dec. 1st, it is 20th, no letter, no phone call, I had to call and heard one word: DENIED. Not even a sentence. Or an explanation. I got bashed for bitching about it in an earlier thread but I have a real problem with this place too, DrSmiles12. Bottom line: WAAAAY too many interviews, if you get one and have others, I suggest you don't waste your flight money to Phoenix. Not that Dean Simonsen isn't a nice guy, I think he is. And the girls are smokin hot.
p.s. The adcoms don't respond to emails, as an added bonus.
p.s.s. 57,000$ a year and the building isn't even built yet?
Are you serious?
p.s.s.s. I would be surprised if someone was to get into Midwestern and somewhere else and choose Midwestern... of course if they were the only place I got into, then I would go.

I guess I'm a mixture of bitter and extremely grateful I don't have to go there.

 

[sarah_bellum]

Let me jump on the midwestern bandwagon too. I mentioned in an earlier thread about how pissed off I was at the obscene number of applicants they interview over there. I am an average applicant, just got accepted this week, but had I known the story about Midwestern I would have never applied. They promised to tell me something Dec. 1st, it is 20th, no letter, no phone call, I had to call and heard one word: DENIED. Not even a sentence. Or an explanation. I got bashed for bitching about it in an earlier thread but I have a real problem with this place too, DrSmiles12. Bottom line: WAAAAY too many interviews, if you get one and have others, I suggest you don't waste your flight money to Phoenix. Not that Dean Simonsen isn't a nice guy, I think he is. And the girls are smokin hot.
p.s. The adcoms don't respond to emails, as an added bonus.
p.s.s. 57,000$ a year and the building isn't even built yet?
Are you serious?
p.s.s.s. I would be surprised if someone was to get into Midwestern and somewhere else and choose Midwestern... of course if they were the only place I got into, then I would go.

I guess I'm a mixture of bitter and extremely grateful I don't have to go there.

I don't understand the vitriol. Things you have to accept once you decide to apply to dental schools (all dental schools):
1 - Schools reject most of the people they interview.
2 - People with perfect credentials are guaranteed NOTHING.
3 - No school is good at communicating with applicants, particularly private schools with thousands of applicants.

I don't see how anyone can complain about these things. Once you apply, you're handing over your credit card number to get disappointed, frustrated, and POSSIBLY elated. If you think anything else at the start of the process (particularly with marginal stats, like myself), you're nuts.

 

[kdawg]

I'll preface what I'm about to say by letting you know that I've been accepted and probably will end up going to Midwestern. I was accepted to a few others, none of which can convince me so far not to choose MWU.

So I know that everyone will think I'm biased in my opinion of the school. Sure there are unknowns, the buildings aren't up yet, it's private=expensive, etc. But tell me this: why such hostility and bitterness from those that were denied?

Some of you say that you have had communication holdups and rudeness from the staff. That's no good. Trust me, I've gotten the same cold shoulder from different schools both last cycle and this, so let's all not act like MWU's the only one doing it. I think it's punk for any school to be tactless, but there are only really a select few schools out there that make their rejections even remotely friendly.

Maybe there is the notion that since they are a new school they will be accepting anyone and everyone? I've spoken to some predents who applied there solely because they assumed a new school would be hurting for business and anyone can get in. Well, watching their process has revealed that they are quite similar to ASDOH in that they interview a TON of applicants, only to just seemingly randomely pick and choose. Go figure. I've now interviewed at ASDOH twice, received very positive feedback in my latest interview, only to be denied last cycle and waitlisted this cycle. Truthfully, I also assumed that a lot of predents would be choosing other schools over MWU, but that doesn't appear to be the case so far. I understand that there ARE exceptions, but for the most part, the ones accepted so far seem to be pretty stoked about it.

Maybe that's where the bitterness and resentment comes in? Because it actually IS an appealing school that predents want to go to? Let's cut the crap and talk about why you're REALLY mad about the rejection. If you didn't want to go there you wouldn't be so pissed. Honestly, there are some schools that I wouldn't give a hoot how they rejected me because I wasn't too interested after the interview.

Not trying to be a prick. It's just interesting to me to see such strong feelings toward MWU both negatively AND positively. And, since I haven't made my final decision, I would love to hear some unemotional feedback on why this school blows, or is weird, etc.

 

[vj212306]

I'll preface what I'm about to say by letting you know that I've been accepted and probably will end up going to Midwestern. I was accepted to a few others, none of which can convince me so far not to choose MWU.

So I know that everyone will think I'm biased in my opinion of the school. Sure there are unknowns, the buildings aren't up yet, it's private=expensive, etc. But tell me this: why such hostility and bitterness from those that were denied?

Some of you say that you have had communication holdups and rudeness from the staff. That's no good. Trust me, I've gotten the same cold shoulder from different schools both last cycle and this, so let's all not act like MWU's the only one doing it. I think it's punk for any school to be tactless, but there are only really a select few schools out there that make their rejections even remotely friendly.

Maybe there is the notion that since they are a new school they will be accepting anyone and everyone? I've spoken to some predents who applied there solely because they assumed a new school would be hurting for business and anyone can get in. Well, watching their process has revealed that they are quite similar to ASDOH in that they interview a TON of applicants, only to just seemingly randomely pick and choose. Go figure. I've now interviewed at ASDOH twice, received very positive feedback in my latest interview, only to be denied last cycle and waitlisted this cycle. Truthfully, I also assumed that a lot of predents would be choosing other schools over MWU, but that doesn't appear to be the case so far. I understand that there ARE exceptions, but for the most part, the ones accepted so far seem to be pretty stoked about it.

Maybe that's where the bitterness and resentment comes in? Because it actually IS an appealing school that predents want to go to? Let's cut the crap and talk about why you're REALLY mad about the rejection. If you didn't want to go there you wouldn't be so pissed. Honestly, there are some schools that I wouldn't give a hoot how they rejected me because I wasn't too interested after the interview.

Not trying to be a prick. It's just interesting to me to see such strong feelings toward MWU both negatively AND positively. And, since I haven't made my final decision, I would love to hear some unemotional feedback on why this school blows, or is weird, etc.

if you dont mind, what are the reasons why you choose to go to MWU?? cuz i also got accepted to serveral schools, and MWU is one of them. And i cant find a reason why i have to spend at least 300K for some thing i dont know whether or not it will work well in the future. No offense though, i just want to know the good and bad side of it. wish you best of luck

 

[kdawg]

if you dont mind, what are the reasons why you choose to go to MWU?? cuz i also got accepted to serveral schools, and MWU is one of them. And i cant find a reason why i have to spend at least 300K for some thing i dont know whether or not it will work well in the future. No offense though, i just want to know the good and bad side of it. wish you best of luck

vj,

Honestly, it just really seems to fit my situation nicely. If you want details, feel free to PM me.

As far as the argument about the "uncertainty" of the school, I just don't buy it. I'm not a dunce and wouldn't walk into a stupid situation if I had other options. And MWU isn't stupid, either. Their parent campus in Chicago is very reputable and their AZ location is already gaining distinction for their other programs. Also, I don't know how many of you who interviewed there were told by Dr. Simonsen that MWU is looking to open up ANOTHER dental school in Chicago! Any other schools in the nation that can say they have the confidence and capability to pull that off? To me, that says a lot about their confidence in the success of this school. Just one of my reasons of many...

 

[chipab]

vj,

Honestly, it just really seems to fit my situation nicely. If you want details, feel free to PM me.

As far as the argument about the "uncertainty" of the school, I just don't buy it. I'm not a dunce and wouldn't walk into a stupid situation if I had other options. And MWU isn't stupid, either. Their parent campus in Chicago is very reputable and their AZ location is already gaining distinction for their other programs. Also, I don't know how many of you who interviewed there were told by Dr. Simonsen that MWU is looking to open up ANOTHER dental school in Chicago! Any other schools in the nation that can say they have the confidence and capability to pull that off? To me, that says a lot about their confidence in thesuccess of this school. Just one of my reasons of many...

I also do agree with Kdawg on this one.

I myself have also been accepted to several schools, and wait listed on couple others. However I am choosing Midwestern.

One of my main reasons I am choosing Midwestern over the others is due to the new facilities and new technologies we as students will get to use, that some of the other schools will simply not have. The general dentist that I worked with mentioned how the technology that you learn with in dental school, will most likely be the technology that you will use in your own dental office in the future, because you are comfortable with what you learned from. I myself want to be up to date with the latest in dental technology, and from the preview that Dr. Simonsen showed us during his 1 hour talk at the interview, I'm very excited about what and how we will learn dentistry.

Many people want a more "established" program, but what good is going to an established program, if they are teaching you old school stuff, in a facility that needs repair.

A lot of people are attacking Midwestern for its uncertainty. But like KDawg said, I'm not stupid for selecting some random school that is making something from nothing.

I did my research on Midwestern, and I am confident that they know what they are doing. Not many programs can say they have 2 strong DO programs, 2 pharmacy schools, and many other solid programs on two seperate campuses, one in Illinois, and the other being in Glendale, AZ. The dental school is their latest addition, and their latest investment.

If Midwestern didn't have these solid reputable programs behind their back, and if this dental school was indeed the first program they were creating, then I might be uncertain. But knowing that they have the knowledge, experience, people, and the money, it makes me certain they will have a strong dental program as well.

From what I remember Dr. Simonsen telling us, they are investing over $100 million into the Dental program. I don't know how many of you are investors out there, but $100 million is a lot of money, and I'm sure no one is stupid enough to invest that much money without being certain that this will work.

 

[ItsGavinC]

The school has it's initial accreditation, that's all any new school can get until they graduate a class of students.

Just to clarify: according to the school's website, they do NOT yet have initial accreditation. The ADA website confirms this (the program isn't listed). They are hoping to gain initial status next month, but they don't have it yet. I'm sure they will do everything they need to do to achieve the status.

 

[kdawg]

Just to clarify: according to the school's website, they do NOT yet have initial accreditation. The ADA website confirms this (the program isn't listed). They are hoping to gain initial status next month, but they don't have it yet. I'm sure they will do everything they need to do to achieve the status.

Good point, Gavin. I was remembering this recently, and realizing that they are requesting deposit earlier than the 45 days that most other schools are. Do you think that they pushed up their response deadline JUST IN CASE they have any initial accreditation holdups? Just food for thought. I agree, they most likely have nothing preventing them from gaining initial accreditation.

I was glad to see Gavin chime in to this thread. If others aren't aware, he is part of the inaugural class at ASDOH, recently graduated. If you can, I'm sure we would all be interested to hear your take on Midwestern, Gavin. A couple questions:

1) What similarities would you expect to see between MWU and the first year at ASDOH, both positive & negative?

2) Is there any bad blood between the schools? I know that a bunch of ASDOH faculty made the switch to MWU (Dr. Simonsen, Dr. Zeis, etc.). Is there competition there, and what is the general perspective of MWU over at ASDOH?

3) If you could do it over again, would you make the same choice to be part of the inaugural class of a dental school? Why or why not?

Thanks for the insight!

 

[onamission]

Just to clarify: according to the school's website, they do NOT yet have initial accreditation. The ADA website confirms this (the program isn't listed). They are hoping to gain initial status next month, but they don't have it yet. I'm sure they will do everything they need to do to achieve the status.

Not true! When I interviewed in Oct it was explained to us that the initial accreditation visit had already occurred and they passed without any recommendations (in other words, a perfect score). I called the ADA, they said that the group that grants the accreditation status doesn't meet until Jan so the accreditation status won't be updated until those gurus have their official pow-wow. Just take a look at the ADA's link below, there are plenty of schools that were up for re-accreditation in 2007 that have not been updated yet. I'm sure the ones that have been updated already probably had their accreditation visits in the first half of 2007.

http://www.ada.org/prof/ed/programs/search_ddsdmd_us.asp

 

[ItsGavinC]

Not true! When I interviewed in Oct it was explained to us that the initial accreditation visit had already occurred and they passed without any recommendations (in other words, a perfect score). I called the ADA, they said that the group that grants the accreditation status doesn't meet until Jan so the accreditation status won't be updated until those gurus have their official pow-wow.

So, as I originally said, the status of initial accreditation has not been granted, and cannot until after the CODA meeting in January.

 

[ItsGavinC]

If you can, I'm sure we would all be interested to hear your take on Midwestern, Gavin. A couple questions:

1) What similarities would you expect to see between MWU and the first year at ASDOH, both positive & negative?

I don't know much about MWU, so I really can't comment on this. I know that it'll have some rough patches, just as ASDOH did. I know it was hard for ASDOH to gain the trust of Arizona dentitsts (it still is doing that), and it will be that much more difficult for MWU. In a lot of ways, MWU takes the heat of ASDOH in this regard. Let's just say that very few local dentists are/will be happy about MWU.

2) Is there any bad blood between the schools? I know that a bunch of ASDOH faculty made the switch to MWU (Dr. Simonsen, Dr. Zeis, etc.). Is there competition there, and what is the general perspective of MWU over at ASDOH?

Tons of bad blood. MWU wasn't created to fill a need, it was created to spite the other dental school across town. Plain and simple. Can MWU fill a need? Sure. Was that the original intent? Nope. The ASDOH faculty that left were good people, but nothing that will be missed. They weren't full-time clinical faculty or anything like that. The exception to this would be Dr. Simonsen, who was an Associate Dean at ASDOH, and is now the dean at MWU.

3) If you could do it over again, would you make the same choice to be part of the inaugural class of a dental school? Why or why not?

I'd do it again, but that's from the experience I had with ASDOH. It was a wonderful 4 years, and I would do dental school again in a heartbeat. There were some hard times, but it was a rather enjoyable experience for me. I met some tremendously talented individuals (including the aforementioned Dr. Simonsen), and loved every minute of my education.

 

[onamission]

I don't know much about MWU, so I really can't comment on this. I know that it'll have some rough patches, just as ASDOH did. I know it was hard for ASDOH to gain the trust of Arizona dentitsts (it still is doing that), and it will be that much more difficult for MWU. In a lot of ways, MWU takes the heat of ASDOH in this regard. Let's just say that very few local dentists are/will be happy about MWU.

Can you expand on this? Why don't the local dentists trust the school? And why aren't they happy about a new school in the area? I would think they'd be glad to see their profession advanced.

Tons of bad blood. MWU wasn't created to fill a need, it was created to spite the other dental school across town. Plain and simple. Can MWU fill a need? Sure. Was that the original intent? Nope. The ASDOH faculty that left were good people, but nothing that will be missed. They weren't full-time clinical faculty or anything like that. The exception to this would be Dr. Simonsen, who was an Associate Dean at ASDOH, and is now the dean at MWU.

I'm curious where you got your info regarding the intent of MWU opening simply to spite ASDOH. I shadowed a longtime established dentist here in Chicagoland that is a former board examiner and holds many positions with the ADA. He told me that MWU tried to open a dental school in the far western burbs of Chicago (as a part of their Downers Grove campus) a few years back, but the idea was shut down by the ADA. That's why MWU then turned to their Glendale campus for the dental school. And according to him, a lot of the area dentists were ticked off about the decision.

 

[xtractime]

Can you expand on this? Why don't the local dentists trust the school? And why aren't they happy about a new school in the area? I would think they'd be glad to see their profession advanced.

I'm curious where you got your info regarding the intent of MWU opening simply to spite ASDOH. I shadowed a longtime established dentist here in Chicagoland that is a former board examiner and holds many positions with the ADA. He told me that MWU tried to open a dental school in the far western burbs of Chicago (as a part of their Downers Grove campus) a few years back, but the idea was shut down by the ADA. That's why MWU then turned to their Glendale campus for the dental school. And according to him, a lot of the area dentists were ticked off about the decision.

from what i've heard in general about schools opening....the reason why established dentists don't want new schools opening in the area is because of the new competition. there will be an influx of ~100 dentists every year who have passed the boards and will be able to practice in that area. even though there is a shortage of dentists in the arizona area (or even other parts of the country) they enjoy the fact that they do not have to fight for patients.

at an interview, a student from utah was saying how the dentists in utah didn't want a dental school there because of all the direct competition it would produce for the ones that are already established. as for the downers grove campus, there are already 2 illinois schools with marquette, michigan, and indiana dental schools nearby. many students will end up in chicago, and so opening another 3rd dental school in chicago would only make it more crowded.

 

[tooth2008]

May I also add the the receptionist named Monica was extremely rude over the phone. I called several times when I had problems with the online interview scheduling system. I know they get a lot of calls but most dental schools are still very cordial over the phone (USCF, Creighton, Temple). I'd think that with her job description she should be a bit nicer and student-friendly.

Like some others here, I had to miss some classes during Fall quarter in order to attend this interview. My interview also went well...I was rejected. If they didn't like me, they could have known by reading my application before inviting me for an interview.

 

[Composite A2]

I choose midwestern over other schools, and I am proud of it. I am excited about the school and the faculty!!!!

 

[brandonbraud]

I am so tired about hearing about this place. Had it been the only place I got in, then yes I would have happily gone. But I can say that had I got in and had any other choice, I would taken ANY other choice based on price alone, NOT the quality of the education I feel I would have gotten. I am sure it will be a great school. But happily I got rejected after the interview, and on top of that who can afford 57 000 a year x 4 years?
I can't. I'd rather buy a house! Or about 8 Jeep Grand Cherokees. To me its about the dollars and cents, nobody gives a rats ass what the diploma says in your dental office, you're a dentist either way. (End of transmission.)

 

[kdawg]

I am so tired about hearing about this place. Had it been the only place I got in, then yes I would have happily gone. But I can say that had I got in and had any other choice, I would taken ANY other choice based on price alone, NOT the quality of the education I feel I would have gotten. I am sure it will be a great school. But happily I got rejected after the interview, and on top of that who can afford 57 000 a year x 4 years?
I can't. I'd rather buy a house! Or about 8 Jeep Grand Cherokees. To me its about the dollars and cents, nobody gives a rats ass what the diploma says in your dental office, you're a dentist either way. (End of transmission.)

Once again, such remarkable hostility and spite. Sorry, buddy, but nobody is "happily" rejected after any interview. Just more evidence that you are bitter.

If it truly is all about the cost, then just say that like a civil, rational person. I'm not stoked about the price, myself, but I was facing paying a pretty penny no matter what I chose. And I would like to meet the predent who can "afford" to pay for any school. 99% are either getting daddy's help or going to student loans. Most of us are going to be in major debt after graduation, with some of us having more than others. What matters in my opinion is how dedicated and how hard you work coming out of dental school. I wish you luck on your decision with other schools, just quit hating on MWU for petty reasons.