Military Moonlighting

[narcusprince]

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Just curious can you moonlight as a intern in the military or as a resident generally? And specific for anesthesia?

 

[orbitsurgMD]

Just curious can you moonlight as a intern in the military or as a resident generally? And specific for anesthesia?

As an intern? Not likely as you would not yet have qualified for a license. In fact, with only one year of training, there are several states where you would not be eligible to be licensed at all with only one year of postgraduate training. Unlike with military practice, you are required to be licensed in the state where you practice when you moonlight.

 

[Ex-44E3A]

Military residents are prohibited from moonlighting... to their detriment, in my opinion.

 

[sethco]

Military residents are prohibited from moonlighting... to their detriment, in my opinion.

To take it one step further, depnding on your med group commander, attendings may not be allowed to moonlight also.

...But it should go without saying, that if you are allowed to moonlight, you need a state license to practice in that state and usually permission from your commander and the JAG (This also applies if you want to do volunteer work off base not on the military's time). At least it's like this at my base...

 

[Ex-44E3A]

To take it one step further, depnding on your med group commander, attendings may not be allowed to moonlight also.

And it is truly a stupid commander who doesn't let his docs moonlight, if for no other reason than to keep their skills up. Military hospitals are no longer the enormous referral centers they once were, and breadth of experience and patient variety has dropped. It's certainly impacted GME, and also impacts the attendings.

I can see cutting back an individual who abuses it, but prohibiting moonlighting across-the-board is a move that only a non-clinical administrative type could love.

 

[almostfamous]

As an intern? Not likely as you would not yet have qualified for a license. In fact, with only one year of training, there are several states where you would not be eligible to be licensed at all with only one year of postgraduate training. Unlike with military practice, you are required to be licensed in the state where you practice when you moonlight.

the training agreement that i signed stated that no one in a training billet on active duty (i.e. internship, residency, or fellowship) would be allowed to moonlight.

 

[West Side]

the training agreement that i signed stated that no one in a training billet on active duty (i.e. internship, residency, or fellowship) would be allowed to moonlight.

What is their means of enforcement? With a few people who would seemingly be overjoyed at the idea of getting tossed out, it doesn't seem like the threat of dismissal holds much water. I'm just curious.

What else do they have over you? Threat of really, painfully awful assignment? That wouldn't stop you from moonlighting...

 

[Heeed!]

LORs...Articles 15....Commanders can make is so you never get promoted again so you work off your commitment at the same rank = less $$$.👎

 

[almostfamous]

LORs...Articles 15....Commanders can make is so you never get promoted again so you work off your commitment at the same rank = less $$$.👎

if you moonlight in a civilian environment enough, you could probably make up the difference. technically, with a license, you could set up shop out of your house, bill and receive payments from patients, then use the home-based business tax savings as well.

never mind. i wouldn't want pts knowing where i live.

 

[Croooz]

Don't moonlight in the same city the base is in. If at Camp LeJeune there is always Wilmington. Heck our doc would go as far as Raleigh (2 hour drive). Not sure if he was "allowed" but he was an Academy grad + USUHS so he wasn't getting out any time soon. He had "family" in Raleigh.

 

[Gastrapathy]

UCMJ.

And even if you are getting out, you don't want to have them pull your credentials and then have to put that you lost your credentials on every job and license app. Its really not worth testing the "what can they do to me?" question.

 

[met19]

And even if you are getting out, you don't want to have them pull your credentials and then have to put that you lost your credentials on every job and license app. Its really not worth testing the "what can they do to me?" question.

cant one just use the service set up by the federal board of med examiners to keep copies of diplomas, boards, etc. and have them sent out?


Also it seems like the military would want to keep people from moonlighting. After all staff who moonlight are more likely to leave (or to even be testing out civilian waters at various hospitals). And if the attending's skills atrophy they are more likely to stay in the military.....